Who do you want to replace Brian Kelly?

[ShawneeIrish]

Not sure if this is the right place for this, but I found this interesting.

One of the huge criticisms from this board is that BK throws his players under the bus...


Did Nick Saban's coordinator switch cost Alabama the title?




Please don't take this as me endorsing BK, I just find it interesting when comparing things that this board sees as major shortcomings of BK, yet the gold standard of coaches just did. After a major shakeup in his staff no less...

Watched the interview after the game and the very first thing Saban said was that he knows the players handled the coordinator switch very well then went on to mention that they still scored 31 points before mentioning things like drops. Did not resemble BKs attitude in the least imo.

 

[Irish Insanity]

Adebo wasn't coming here EVER if he got admitted/offered from stanford...that just happened...he said goodbye...BK made some big time changes in staff....we have to let that play out

It has played out. For 8 years. That results haven't been very good.

 

[PANDFAN]

It has played out. For 8 years. That results haven't been very good.

yeah i forgot elko, polian, chip long, ballis etc were hired 8 years ago

 

[Blaise]

yeah i forgot elko, polian, chip long, ballis etc were hired 8 years ago

I think 2018 and 2019 will be huge classes for us.. I love the upgrades we made

 

[ThePiombino]

I think 2018 and 2019 will be huge classes for us.. I love the upgrades we made

Not if we don't start winning. This program desperately needs a signature win and a couple back-to-back 10+ win seasons culminating in a significant bowl win.

 

[OCIrish]

I think 2018 and 2019 will be huge classes for us.. I love the upgrades we made

I'm glad you're optimistic.......are you Vancouver in disguise????

 

[Irish Insanity]

I think 2018 and 2019 will be huge classes for us.. I love the upgrades we made

Hopefully at some point we stop using the excuse 'next year will be better'

 

[Blaise]

Hopefully at some point we stop using the excuse 'next year will be better'

Or should we just assume every year the sky is falling?

We had a top 7 class before the 4-8 disaster and people started leaving the class... I don't think it takes some magical 12-0 year to get us back on track... I think people will enjoy the defense and our recruiters will finally put in the work to keep the class together.. No reason 2018, 2019 are not top 10 classes IMO

 

[NDohio]

Watched the interview after the game and the very first thing Saban said was that he knows the players handled the coordinator switch very well then went on to mention that they still scored 31 points before mentioning things like drops. Did not resemble BKs attitude in the least imo.

Of course he said they handled it well. He isn't going to admit that it might have been a mistake.

31 points? Who cares. How many consecutive three and outs did they have? How many consecutive third down failures did they have? The AL offense in the second half was abysmal. We would have roasted our coaching staff for that game plan and the play calling.

 

[dublinirish]

bama's long TD to the TE was lucky as heck too, they were doing nothing on offense before that play. ditto with the WR pass later on that led to the QB rushing for a TD

 

[Irish Insanity]

Of course he said they handled it well. He isn't going to admit that it might have been a mistake.

31 points? Who cares. How many consecutive three and outs did they have? How many consecutive third down failures did they have? The AL offense in the second half was abysmal. We would have roasted our coaching staff for that game plan and the play calling.

Well except their staff has more than earned the benefit of the doubt and ours hasn't even come close.

 

[phgreek]

Of course he said they handled it well. He isn't going to admit that it might have been a mistake.

31 points? Who cares. How many consecutive three and outs did they have? How many consecutive third down failures did they have? The AL offense in the second half was abysmal. We would have roasted our coaching staff for that game plan and the play calling.

Sark is a solid enough play caller. But I thought Saban's handling of Kiffin was a mistake...I still think it was a mistake. Kiffin knows the personnel and Xs and Os better. He can assess when, where, how, and how often to gamble to get the team out of a lul. As well, I'm not sure Sark has ever shown to be a better play caller.

Sark did fine...but I thought it was about everyone making sacrifices and choices that improved the team's chances to win. I can't see where, in the playoffs, you boot your OC...even if it is kiffin. If I had to pick before this game, I'd have chosen kiffin...shrug.

 

[NDohio]

Well except their staff has more than earned the benefit of the doubt and ours hasn't even come close.

What has Sark done to earn the benefit of the doubt?

 

[ShawneeIrish]

Of course he said they handled it well. He isn't going to admit that it might have been a mistake.

31 points? Who cares. How many consecutive three and outs did they have? How many consecutive third down failures did they have? The AL offense in the second half was abysmal. We would have roasted our coaching staff for that game plan and the play calling.

My point was more that with immediately complimenting how his players handled things Saban's comments were different from when BK has been criticized for blaming players.

 

[NDgradstudent]

The 247 team talent composite for this year (a measure of the talent on the current team):

I know this doesn't tell the whole story, but it tells some sort of story.

 

[Dizzyphil]

The 247 team talent composite for this year (a measure of the talent on the current team):

I know this doesn't tell the whole story, but it tells some sort of story.

So, this is based on the past 17 years of talent.

 

[NDgradstudent]

So, this is based on the past 17 years of talent.

No, it's based on the current team. We haven't had only 81 players in the past 17 years.

 

[ACamp1900]

Well, at least we are above Clemson............

 

[ndfb3.1]

The 247 team talent composite for this year (a measure of the talent on the current team):

I know this doesn't tell the whole story, but it tells some sort of story.

Yes, No 5*.

 

[NDgradstudent]

Well, at least we are above Clemson............

Hahahahahaha

Oh. In those rankings. Yes, we are.

Yes, No 5*.

So that is what stops us beating Duke.

 

[IrishLax]

Sark is a solid enough play caller. But I thought Saban's handling of Kiffin was a mistake...I still think it was a mistake. Kiffin knows the personnel and Xs and Os better. He can assess when, where, how, and how often to gamble to get the team out of a lul. As well, I'm not sure Sark has ever shown to be a better play caller.

Sark did fine...but I thought it was about everyone making sacrifices and choices that improved the team's chances to win. I can't see where, in the playoffs, you boot your OC...even if it is kiffin. If I had to pick before this game, I'd have chosen kiffin...shrug.

Yes, it was definitely a mistake. Hurts was 13/31 for 131 yards with a 25 QBR in the championship. Abysmal. Now, he was even worse against Washington with Kiffin, but that was almost by design a super conservative game plan as they knew Washington couldn't score on them. Clemson was obviously going to be able to score as they did it last year. So mimicking the super-conservative offense of the previous week was a poor idea.

Clemson earned every one of their 35 points. Bama basically got a handful of fluke plays to go their way and benefited from good field position. They didn't run cohesive offense the entire night.

 

[Blaise]

The 247 team talent composite for this year (a measure of the talent on the current team):

I know this doesn't tell the whole story, but it tells some sort of story.

Koon says Clemson only recruits 4 and 5 stars so this can't be right

 

[ulukinatme]

Koon says Clemson only recruits 4 and 5 stars so this can't be right

A 3 star at Clemson is a 4 star anywhere else?

On another note, we have way too much talent to be losing 8 games.

 

[Dizzyphil]

No, it's based on the current team. We haven't had only 81 players in the past 17 years.

Printed since 2000 on the side - thats what threw me off scratching my head.

 

[Blaise]

A 3 star at Clemson is a 4 star anywhere else?

On another note, we have way too much talent to be losing 8 games.

Absolutely.. Hopefully some of these coaching changes begin to maximize our talent... When I see UDFA from us get 3 sacks in a playoff game against the Packers, It tells me we had some talent on this team that we wasted

 

[Dizzyphil]

Koon says Clemson only recruits 4 and 5 stars so this can't be right

Guess it could be based also on who is giving the stars. Daelin Hayes was a 5 last year based on Rivals.

 

[Irish Insanity]

What has Sark done to earn the benefit of the doubt?

His boss has done enough to earn it for both of them.

 

[ulukinatme]

His boss has done enough to earn it for both of them.

I think the Sark project will end poorly in the end. He doesn't have the ego that Kiffy had, so he won't butt heads as much, but I'm not sure he'll be as successful either. Kiffy is a decent OC, but it remains to be seen if he can be a HC. Sark is probably a decent HC when he's not drinking, but I'm not sure he's a golden OC. He only spent a few years under Petey, and it was when the dynasty was already starting to crumble.

 

[Cackalacky]

The 247 team talent composite for this year (a measure of the talent on the current team):

I know this doesn't tell the whole story, but it tells some sort of story.

It tells me that ND gets the recruits and fails to develop them or at least translate star power to on the field success.

 

[IrishLax]

It tells me that ND gets the recruits and fails to develop them or at least translate star power to on the field success.

It tells me when you have roster holes and crappy coaches it doesn't matter how good your "strong" units are if teams can exploit your weaknesses.

Joe Schmidt at MLB next to Jaylon Smith; the perennial depth holes at DB; etc. etc.