Who do you want to replace Brian Kelly?

[irishfanjho15]

As much as I have said Strong would be great DC for Irish, he would be losing his buy-out of $10 million (over next three years?) to take $1 million-ish a year?

I don't think he loses it all. Only a portion.

 

[Dizzyphil]

Depends how much he wants to coach this year. Even if he gets a head job it's unlikely to pay more than maybe $2M.

exactly.... sit on $3+ a year and see what comes open the next 3 years.

Hell, Petrino might get picked up and he wind back up at Louisville? maybe? he was 11-1 when he left there?

 

[irishfanjho15]

As much as I have said Strong would be great DC for Irish, he would be losing his buy-out of $10 million (over next three years?) to take $1 million-ish a year?

The contract says: "Coach has the duty to mitigate - 50% offset for compensation from other employment."

Does that mean he only gets 50% of his salary from UT if he takes another job?

Strong Contract

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

exactly.... sit on $3+ a year and see what comes open the next 3 years.

Hell, Petrino might get picked up and he wind back up at Louisville? maybe? he was 11-1 when he left there?

Under standard contract law he would only lose the buyout for the amount he is compensated by the new job. He also has a duty to mitigate damages - which in this case would mean to seek out employment.

The terms of the agreement with Texas would govern but it would lead to perverse incentives if taking a job meant surrendering all his buyout money for that year.

 

[stlnd01]

exactly.... sit on $3+ a year and see what comes open the next 3 years.

Hell, Petrino might get picked up and he wind back up at Louisville? maybe? he was 11-1 when he left there?

Yeah. But he's not getting any younger. How often do coaches get fired, sit out a year, and wind up getting a big job a year later?
I don't know. I can see it either way. But if he wants to coach again at a high level it seems like he should stay in the game. If he succeeds the money will be there either way.

 

[Dizzyphil]

The contract says: "Coach has the duty to mitigate - 50% offset for compensation from other employment."

Does that mean he only gets 50% of his salary from UT if he takes another job?

Strong Contract

Who knows... all I know is every sports outlet says he's owed $10 million and his contract was until 2019. I'm just using simple math. Sit on my a$$ for three years and get paid....

Yeah. But he's not getting any younger. How often do coaches get fired, sit out a year, and wind up getting a big job a year later?
I don't know. I can see it either way. But if he wants to coach again at a high level it seems like he should stay in the game. If he succeeds the money will be there either way.

Sure, to each his own. For sure - he will be coaching again someday.

 

[Irish Knuckles]

Yeah. But he's not getting any younger. How often do coaches get fired, sit out a year, and wind up getting a big job a year later?
I don't know. I can see it either way. But if he wants to coach again at a high level it seems like he should stay in the game. If he succeeds the money will be there either way.

if strong can't find a hc gig he likes, then we might have a good shot of getting him.

 

[Pa Golden Tate Fan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Timeline of where things stand with Brian Kelly and Notre Dame ($) <a href="https://t.co/bzil9YNo3w">https://t.co/bzil9YNo3w</a></p>— Matt Jones (@BGI_MattJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/BGI_MattJones/status/802978219066392577">November 27, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[GATTACA!]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Timeline of where things stand with Brian Kelly and Notre Dame ($) <a href="https://t.co/bzil9YNo3w">https://t.co/bzil9YNo3w</a></p>— Matt Jones (@BGI_MattJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/BGI_MattJones/status/802978219066392577">November 27, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Anybody got a TLDR?

 

[dwshade]

What good is that. I can't read it.

 

[BeauBenken]

Bet Fleck goes to the Ducks... they want him too.

From my understanding, if they couldn't get Tom Herman, they were going to sit on Helfrich's buyout until next year. Things must change fast?

 

[Dizzyphil]

From my understanding, if they couldn't get Tom Herman, they were going to sit on Helfrich's buyout until next year. Things must change fast?

guess so, article was a pretty good read

 

[Kingbish01]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Timeline of where things stand with Brian Kelly and Notre Dame ($) <a href="https://t.co/bzil9YNo3w">https://t.co/bzil9YNo3w</a></p>— Matt Jones (@BGI_MattJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/BGI_MattJones/status/802978219066392577">November 27, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Good read, even though I was only able to read 17 words.

 

[BobbyMac]

Good read, even though I was only able to read 17 words.

No worries, whatever service you subscribe to will have a copycat story any time now or at worst, someone will post the Cliff's Notes tonight after a day of boozin.

 

[phork]

Remember, Weis got fired the Monday after his last loss... even after they basically started planning to let him go after losing to Navy. So I think anything is possible until from now until Monday/Tuesday next week. There is no indication right now that any firing is imminent the way the public facade is being put out there.

Weis' last year was also eerily similar to this one... 6-6 with all 6 losses by 7 points or less. Realistically, "should've" won 4 of the 6 and had horrible breaks (bad refs at Michigan, miscues against Navy, 2OT collapse to UCONN, blown leads against Stanford). Historically looking at Weis/Willingham I'm not sure how it's even a question Kelly should be fired right now.

The question is the 6 year extension signed just this year.

The only way I would take Fleck is if he were hired in as a position coach at ND and he works his way up.

Fleck's resume does not impress me one bit to take the head coaching job at ND.

I want to see what he can do with a bigger program than Western Michigan. He is going to need a bigger boat to row outside of the MAC.

For those saying that to go out and get a D.C. I am with you 100%. I would hope by now that Charlie Strong has already received a call from ND today.

ND needs a D.C. who is going to bring in some discipline. Strong is a perfect candidate-- he has been at ND before, he doesn't put up with B.S., he's made relationships in TX (good for recruiting), and he reminds me of a Tony Alford.

Get to calling Strong....

Right. I bet we wished we would have taken Meyer coming out of Bowling Green rather waiting for his Utah and Florida and OSU gigs. And looking back it looks like we took wunderkind Willingham instead.

There is an old saying that says The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over but expecting different results.

 

[dublinirish]

Fleck among others being kicked around, Miles and Kiffen are two others as well.

PJ Fleck, Les Miles, Lane Kiffin -- kicking around Oregon Ducks possibilities | OregonLive.com

Fleck would be a home run hire for Oregon for sure. I think he'd fit in better in a less traditional/blue blood program. Somewhere like Oregon or Baylor.

 

[GrangerIrish24]

When do we start getting the " such and such head coach was spotted in South Bend". Those are my favorite.

 

[PANDFAN]

When do we start getting the " such and such head coach was spotted in South Bend". Those are my favorite.

got to go and check the flight patterns...even more fun

 

[GrangerIrish24]

got to go and check the flight patterns...even more fun

Nothing gets me more excited than hearing that ND's plane was spotted near certain towns.

 

[dublinirish]

When do we start getting the " such and such head coach was spotted in South Bend". Those are my favorite.

got to go and check the flight patterns...even more fun

Nothing beats transfer deadline day rumors in the EPL

"I've just seen Cristiano Ronaldo shopping for plums in a gas station in Salford, that's gotta mean he's on his way back to Man United!"

 

[GrangerIrish24]

Nothing beats transfer deadline day rumors in the EPL

"I've just seen Cristiano Ronaldo shopping for plums in a gas station in Salford, that's gotta mean he's on his way back to Man United!"

Back in 2009, Urban and Stoops were at every Srarbucks in town.

 

[ginman]

and the build up towards signing day should be a blast this year!

 

[dublinirish]

and the build up towards signing day should be a blast this year!

signing day would be more hype if recruits had to show up on campus to sign their LOI's.

"Deontay Greenberry spotted at Arby's in Mishawaka!"

 

[Wingman Ray]

I know some of the posters here have connections and insider info with some of the big money alumni. Has there been talk about pushing BK out? I know the big boosters make noise and just wondering if anything has been said.

Makes you wonder with all the news of BKs agent looking around for him. I would think he would be feeling some heat from more than just fans to do that.

 

[BobbyMac]

I know some of the posters here have connections and insider info with some of the big money alumni. Has there been talk about pushing BK out? I know the big boosters make noise and just wondering if anything has been said.

Makes you wonder with all the news of BKs agent looking around for him. I would think he would be feeling some heat from more than just fans to do that.

Yes.

 

[dwshade]

Yes.

This is what I love. Big money people want to push him out without a clue who you would hire to replace him. That's how you end up with Davie, Willingham and Weis.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

This is what I love. Big money people want to push him out without a clue who you would hire to replace him. That's how you end up with Davie, Willingham and Weis.

Davie was brought in to be DC and Lou's heir-apparent. The plan was in place when Lou got let go.

 

[NDohio]

This is what I love. Big money people want to push him out without a clue who you would hire to replace him. That's how you end up with Davie, Willingham and Weis.

It's interesting though. The big money guys are the ones that tagged BK to replace CW early on and they got their wish. Now here we are...

 

[BobbyMac]

This is what I love. Big money people want to push him out without a clue who you would hire to replace him. That's how you end up with Davie, Willingham and Weis.

They have plans, will the 49 people on the BoT agree with them is the question.

Plan A = Offer Saban 7yr / $100M.

 

[NDohio]

They have plans, will the 49 people on the BoT agree with them is the question.

Plan A = Offer Saban 7yr / $100M.

What's plan B?