Who do you want to replace Brian Kelly?

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True but when we hired Brian Kelly he was one of the hottest coaches.
He was coach of the year multiple years. He has over 200 wins..

He is definitely a good coach, maybe more!

At first we all believed in him. We all were drinking the koolaid the first few years. He was 12-0.. What changed? Did he just wake up and become a bad coach. I don't believe so..

and all of a sudden we are ready to cut his head off..

I am starting to believe the problem is something else. Im not sure what the problem is but I remember when Kelly got hired many said if he can't win here no one will.

When the facts change, I change my opinion. What do you do?
 

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John Harbaugh... with Super Bowl ring and 6 playoff appearances... is on the "hot seat" in Baltimore if he doesn't make playoffs. Can't make this up. At least give him a call.
 

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I am in medical school..and I'm in Detroit currently surrounded by a bunch of filthy Michigan fans..

honestly I'm sick of hearing how much money the school has.. How much influence it has. If it really does have that much power and money then go get it done.

One HUGE problem is the people calling the shots probably never played football.. I would be surprised if they ever even played competitive sports.

Every game I feel like this team is going to a fist fight with its hands tied behind its back. Honestly change needs to start above BK and JS..
The problem is above BK and JS!
 

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With all that being said we do need change. We need energy!
I truly believe we can be the best again.
 

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Chip Kelly loses again. 1-5 on the season. No way he survives more than 2 years if he keeps this up.

He was never a NFL head coach nor will he be a good one. He is a college guy that should be in the running. For USC and LSU. He doesn't need to be atND
 

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I am ok with a new coach as long as they do it for the right reasons and not just a gut reaction. But I still don't believe we will get a good enough coach.


And I also think it should be a clean house as well. Every coach needs to be gone.

After the UT or MSU loss would've been a guy reaction. We're well past that now. We're quickly approaching the 'why haven't we' sign.

John Harbaugh... with Super Bowl ring and 6 playoff appearances... is on the "hot seat" in Baltimore if he doesn't make playoffs. Can't make this up. At least give him a call.

I'd love it if we could pull him from the NFL, but I think he'd be in the running for any open NFL HC position too.
 

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Chip Kelly loses again. 1-5 on the season. No way he survives more than 2 years if he keeps this up.



I would like Chip Kelly to pull a Saban. He has tried the NFL and has not done well, saying that the 49ers have little talent and a crap GM (Balke). I would like Kelly to quit the 49ers before the season is over. And take the job at Notre Dame immediately after the USC game so he can salvage recruiting.


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I would be very happy with Chip Kelly.. But ND needs to open the check book and hire the best coordinators out there.

For those that say he is not the right material for ND because of possible recruiting violations...Which one of the top coaches is clean? In todays world of college football you have to walk very close to the edge to win. Is it right? NO.. But that is college football these days.
 

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If the goal is to win and win some high level bowl games, then a Chip Kelly would be a great hire. However, his brand of CFB will not equate to national championships. It all starts and ends in the trenches... and he never had anything close to a NC OL/DL with the Ducks. Simply put, he would be a BK, only with the ability to elevate the Irish program a little higher.
 

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If the goal is to win and win some high level bowl games, then a Chip Kelly would be a great hire. However, his brand of CFB will not equate to national championships. It all starts and ends in the trenches... and he never had anything close to a NC OL/DL with the Ducks. Simply put, he would be a BK, only with the ability to elevate the Irish program a little higher.

How about Jim Tressel for ND?
 

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No thank you on Tressel.. He was banned from coaching and he is a hundred years old. Nope! I will pass..
 

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Chip Kelly very likely wants nothing to do with the ND job. At some level, you have to be able to get the media to love you when you coach at ND, outside of just winning. You've got to want to put that spotlight on you and deal with it 24/7.

There aren't many coaches at any level that are so cantankerous with the media than Chip. The dude lost 7 games in 4 years at Oregon and still was insufferable. No way he'd fit in this fish bowl.

Also, it'd be interesting to see Fleck with his cocaine-level energy and Jay Leno-looking tatted up second wife in tow go through the interview process at Notre Dame. I'd love to be a fly on the wall for those proceedings.
 

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True but when we hired Brian Kelly he was one of the hottest coaches.
He was coach of the year multiple years. He has over 200 wins..

He is definitely a good coach, maybe more!

At first we all believed in him. We all were drinking the koolaid the first few years. He was 12-0.. What changed? Did he just wake up and become a bad coach. I don't believe so..

and all of a sudden we are ready to cut his head off..

I am starting to believe the problem is something else. Im not sure what the problem is but I remember when Kelly got hired many said if he can't win here no one will.

I don't think he's a bad coach. I've mentioned it before but I just think he's good at coming in, changing the culture and peaking by the 3rd year. For whatever reason he's not shown the ability to sustain a program. This is his first D1 job where he's been at for more than 3 years. Maybe his message gets old. Maybe he's better with other people's recruits. Who knows.
 

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I don't think he's a bad coach. I've mentioned it before but I just think he's good at coming in, changing the culture and peaking by the 3rd year. For whatever reason he's not shown the ability to sustain a program. This is his first D1 job where he's been at for more than 3 years. Maybe his message gets old. Maybe he's better with other people's recruits. Who knows.

I wonder after 3 years at ND all these coaches get burned out. They all started out hot. Too much spot light. Too many cameras. idk..

One big thing is we need to change if we want to win. Most big time coaches are not gonna come here if they cannot bring in JUCO or transfers. I cannot believe after 7 years we have 3 freshman playing in the Defensive backfield.. I understand maybe one but 3.. Thats crazy..
 

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If the goal is to win and win some high level bowl games, then a Chip Kelly would be a great hire. However, his brand of CFB will not equate to national championships. It all starts and ends in the trenches... and he never had anything close to a NC OL/DL with the Ducks. Simply put, he would be a BK, only with the ability to elevate the Irish program a little higher.

I really don't think it would be a good fit. I feel like ND football has no identity. Offensively we've gone from the option, to the West Coast offense, to a Pro style offense, and now we're running more of passing spread. I guess we're due for the Oregon type spread next.

Defensively we flip flop from 3-4 to 4-3 to bend-but-don't-break, to attacking style. It's a fucking grab bag with this program. As much as I hate USC and Michigan, at least their teams have always had identities (except the RichRod era at Michigan). What's our identity other than underperforming teams?
 

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Who do you want to replace Kelly and BVG?

Who do you want to replace Kelly and BVG?

I have a good candidate that IrishLax will love.

James Franklin!


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John Harbaugh... with Super Bowl ring and 6 playoff appearances... is on the "hot seat" in Baltimore if he doesn't make playoffs. Can't make this up. At least give him a call.

Is it a problem that he doesn't have college HC experience?
 

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Is it a problem that he doesn't have college HC experience?

He has college experience, and he has HC experience. Don't think he needs college HC experience. For example, Pete Carroll never had college HC experience.
 

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Chip Kelly very likely wants nothing to do with the ND job. At some level, you have to be able to get the media to love you when you coach at ND, outside of just winning. You've got to want to put that spotlight on you and deal with it 24/7.

There aren't many coaches at any level that are so cantankerous with the media than Chip. The dude lost 7 games in 4 years at Oregon and still was insufferable. No way he'd fit in this fish bowl.

Also, it'd be interesting to see Fleck with his cocaine-level energy and Jay Leno-looking tatted up second wife in tow go through the interview process at Notre Dame. I'd love to be a fly on the wall for those proceedings.

He hates CFB, specifically the media and boosters. And he's unlikable. But Nick Saban is also one unlikable SOB and hates the media and he's made it work. If you get Ws, I think you can get a "pass" even in a fish bowl like ND.

What I think will be interesting to see... cuz Chip sure as hell isn't getting another NFL HC job... is what college marriage he makes when he gets fired in San Fran. Methinks he goes SEC.

PJ Fleck would be an awesome culture clash with ND for so many reasons. I think he's exactly the kind of take-no-prisoners attitude we need... but I don't know how the heck you'd get Jenkins, etc. on board with someone like him.
 

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He has college experience, and he has HC experience. Don't think he needs college HC experience. For example, Pete Carroll never had college HC experience.

Also wouldn't we have to match his current salary (7 million/year)?

You'd have to think he'd strongly consider an offer from ND, unless he is really wedded to the NFL.
 

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Also wouldn't we have to match his current salary (7 million/year)?

You'd have to think he'd strongly consider it, unless he is really wedded to the NFL.

No, not necessarily. I think every coach wants to stay in the NFL if they can get the right job. He'd certainly get an offer from somewhere, given his age and his track record. I'd put the odds around 1%... but you still have to pick up the phone.
 

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Lax-- just heard Hazzell is out at Purdue, my bet is they will go after Fleck.
 
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