What's Your Stance?

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"Tradition"

1. Independence (keep it or join a conference?) IND
2. Field Turf or Grass? FIELD TURF
3. Jumbotron? YES

"Recruiting"

A. Shoot for the moon or limit recruiting to RKGs? BOTH
B. Take JUCOs? IF THEY CAN GET INTO SCHOOL, WHY NOT
C. Oversigning? YES BY 1 OR 2
D. What matters most for recruits? (offer list, stars, the tape, or do you just trust the coaches?) TRUST COACHES THEY ARE PAID TO DO THIS

Bonus Football Topics:

a. Brian Kelly (love him, hate him, or TBD) LOVE HIM, WISH HE WAS MY FATHER
b. Most hated team (USC, Michigan, or other?) USC W/ SLIGHT EDGE TO MICHIGAN
c. Playoffs, BCS, or other? playoff top 8
d. Scheduling (toughest possible or other?) 3 hard ones with a few middle of the roads and a cupcake or 2 ;).......although really looking fwd to playing some new teams now!!

Bonus non-Football topics:

I. Mike Brey (fire him or keep him?) he has hit his limit, bring in something fresh
II. Pay student-athletes? f#ck NO!!!! /story
 

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"Tradition"

1. Independence (keep it or join a conference?) I like our set up with the ACC
2. Field Turf or Grass? Field Turf
3. Jumbotron? Videoboard done tastefully

"Recruiting"

A. Shoot for the moon or limit recruiting to RKGs? Shoot for the moon
B. Take JUCOs? Yes
C. Oversigning? Not to SEC standards
D. What matters most for recruits? (offer list, stars, the tape, or do you just trust the coaches?) Trust coaches

Bonus Football Topics:

a. Brian Kelly (love him, hate him, or TBD) Love him
b. Most hated team (USC, Michigan, or other?) Michigan
c. Playoffs, BCS, or other? Will see
d. Scheduling (toughest possible or other?) Need a blend

Bonus non-Football topics:

I. Mike Brey (fire him or keep him?) IDK
II. Pay student-athletes? NO
 

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I find it hard to keep track of how everyone feels about certain major topics. What is your stance on the following:

"Tradition"

1. Independence (keep it or join a conference?)
2. Field Turf or Grass?
3. Jumbotron?

1. ND will be in a conference within 10-15 years. Its not a matter of if, its when. All signs point to four 16 team super conferences.

2. Turf. Good grounds people are hard to find and seemingly they aren't at ND.

3. Yes.

"Recruiting"

A. Shoot for the moon or limit recruiting to RKGs?
B. Take JUCOs?
C. Oversigning?
D. What matters most for recruits? (offer list, stars, the tape, or do you just trust the coaches?)

A. MSU is proof that you can be good with 2 and 3/4 star kids. Find the best scouts and offer those kids. Absolutely hit a 5 star from time to time, but thats not what ND is.

B. Yes. How many times would it have been great to have a kid to plug into an injury and get by?

C. Anything within the rules.

D. Stars are not the most important factor, although I shrug at those that discount it. 5 stars are 5 stars and most of them play on Sundays. Trust the coaches to find the kids.

Bonus Football Topics:

a. Brian Kelly (love him, hate him, or TBD)
b. Most hated team (USC, Michigan, or other?)
c. Playoffs, BCS, or other?
d. Scheduling (toughest possible or other?)

a. I have no feelings. After the NFL flirtation (regardless of contract negotiations blah blah) I don't trust that he won't be at ND the next year.

b. I hate Michigan because I am in ground zero for Skunkbear lovers.

c. Playoffs. Eventually 16 teams. The BCS formula bears this out as about #15 the argument for inclusion starts to fall apart.

d. Anyone, any time. Hopefully home and home.

Bonus non-Football topics:

I. Mike Brey (fire him or keep him?)
II. Pay student-athletes?

I. Brey has to go. This team has gone as far as it can with him.

II. Pay athletes. If you are capitalizing off their likeness then you need to pay them. Easy way out is to let them do endorsements. Any athlete not in Football or Basketball has no argument because those sports lose money.
 

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Good topic....

"Tradition"

1. Independence (keep it or join a conference?) Keep it until it makes more financial sense to join a conference
2. Field Turf or Grass? Field Turf
3. Jumbotron? No

"Recruiting"

A. Shoot for the moon or limit recruiting to RKGs? I'd say the issue is more of a need to refocus our geographic recruiting efforts
B. Take JUCOs? Yes
C. Oversigning? No
D. What matters most for recruits? (offer list, stars, the tape, or do you just trust the coaches?) Ultimately I trust the coaches, but I think getting a few higher stars guys can have a snowball effect in landing better recruits

Bonus Football Topics:

a. Brian Kelly (love him, hate him, or TBD) Love him
b. Most hated team (USC, Michigan, or other?) USC, followed closely by O$U
c. Playoffs, BCS, or other? Playoffs
d. Scheduling (toughest possible or other?) See Buster model

Bonus non-Football topics:

I. Mike Brey (fire him or keep him?) Fire
II. Pay student-athletes? No
 
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Thanks for all the participation so far. I've been trying to rep everybody.

p.s. this was all a cover for me to figure out how many of you want Brey fired. Pleased with the results :eek:grin:
 

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Very nice!
"Tradition"

1. Independence (keep it or join a conference?)
I like the independence aspect but ND might as well just join the ACC. They will be forced to in 5-10 years anyways, IMO
2. Field Turf or Grass?
Field Turf
3. Jumbotron?
Uh, yes. Get with the times. Plus it keeps the people in attendance happy. Also a plus in recruiting.
"Recruiting"

A. Shoot for the moon or limit recruiting to RKGs?
Gotta stay limited with who we can take. We want our athletes to be able to talk
B. Take JUCOs?
Hell, no. Unless they are posting a 4.0 with an ACT of 18 or above
C. Oversigning?
Nope, we already give the SEC crap for this
D. What matters most for recruits? (offer list, stars, the tape, or do you just trust the coaches?)
Offer list and stars matter a little bit, obviously. Tape shows mechanics. Yes I trust the coaches, they do know about 200% more than I do.

Bonus Football Topics:

a. Brian Kelly (love him, hate him, or TBD)
meh. He's a dick, but I guess he's alright.
b. Most hated team (USC, Michigan, or other?)
Living in MI, I absolutely cannot stand Mich fans. They bitch about everything. And the Twitter/Facebook wars MSU and Mich fans have with each other are ridiculous/hilarious. MSU>MICH for me anyday.
c. Playoffs, BCS, or other?
Playoffs, please!
d. Scheduling (toughest possible or other?)
Tough, yet, not tough where our players get run down half way through the season. I think we should get rid of the academies where they don't pose much of a threat to us anymore (some years though) and our DL and OL get hurt consistently year after year playing them.

Bonus non-Football topics:

I. Mike Brey (fire him or keep him?)
don't fire him. Just tell him to walk away or find another job, LOL.
II. Pay student-athletes?
Isn't free education basically already paying them?
 
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"Tradition"

1. Independence (keep it or join a conference?) Keep it until it makes more financial sense to join a conference
2. Field Turf or Grass? Field Turf
3. Jumbotron? Absolutely

"Recruiting"

A. Shoot for the moon or limit recruiting to RKGs? Just take guys that are too small and too slow but their dads are loaded.
B. Take JUCOs? Yes
C. Oversigning? Tes
D. What matters most for recruits? (offer list, stars, the tape, or do you just trust the coaches?) Coaches! However five stars are easier to coach.

Bonus Football Topics:

a. Brian Kelly (love him, hate him, or TBD) Love him
b. Most hated team (USC, Michigan, or other?) USC...not even close.
c. Playoffs, BCS, or other? Playoffs
d. Scheduling (toughest possible or other?) toughest...but I'm tired of the Academies.

Bonus non-Football topics:

I. Mike Brey (fire him or keep him?) Don't care.
II. Pay student-athletes? Hell no!
 

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I find it hard to keep track of how everyone feels about certain major topics. What is your stance on the following:

"Tradition"

1. Independence (keep it or join a conference?)
2. Field Turf or Grass?
3. Jumbotron?

"Recruiting"

A. Shoot for the moon or limit recruiting to RKGs?
B. Take JUCOs?
C. Oversigning?
D. What matters most for recruits? (offer list, stars, the tape, or do you just trust the coaches?)

Bonus Football Topics:

a. Brian Kelly (love him, hate him, or TBD)
b. Most hated team (USC, Michigan, or other?)
c. Playoffs, BCS, or other?
d. Scheduling (toughest possible or other?)

Bonus non-Football topics:

I. Mike Brey (fire him or keep him?)
II. Pay student-athletes?

Obviously these are broad questions but try to keep your responses short when possible. My intent is simply to create a directory/reference that we can use to eliminate some repetitive conversations. Let me know if you think of any other major topics.

Stay independent, I like field turf and skip the jumbotron, loosen up recruiting but don't do it at the expense of the program, accept jucos if they qualify, Kelly's success speaks for itself, toughest possible schedule-bring em on, the schedule should help with a 8/16 team playoff, jack up the stipend a little more so we don't have these guys getting itchy about taking $$$$ from somebody or somewhere.
 

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"Tradition"

1. Independence (keep it or join a conference?) Gonna have to join up sooner or later
2. Field Turf or Grass? FT
3. Jumbotron? yep

"Recruiting"

A. Shoot for the moon or limit recruiting to RKGs? Fill your needs... don't worry about the number of stars
B. Take JUCOs? selectively
C. Oversigning? yes - as the Irish have more and more players leaving early this is one they are going to have to consider
D. What matters most for recruits? (offer list, stars, the tape, or do you just trust the coaches?) gotta trust the coaches to make the right decisions

Bonus Football Topics:

a. Brian Kelly (love him, hate him, or TBD) TBD... gotta win some bigger games first
b. Most hated team (USC, Michigan, or other?) tOSU, Michigan, USC, Auburn
c. Playoffs, BCS, or other? 8 team playoff
d. Scheduling (toughest possible or other?) the tougher the better

Bonus non-Football topics:

I. Mike Brey (fire him or keep him?) One more year
II. Pay student-athletes? could consider a well defined stipend
 

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I find it hard to keep track of how everyone feels about certain major topics. What is your stance on the following:

"Tradition"

1. Independence (keep it or join a conference?) Independent
2. Field Turf or Grass? Whatever the University decides is fine with me.
3. Jumbotron? No. I think a mobile app. with anything they would want to put on a jumbotron might be cool if it was streamed over free WiFi in the stadium and around campus on game days. Turn people's phones and tablets into mini portable jumbotrons.


"Recruiting"

A. Shoot for the moon or limit recruiting to RKGs? Whatever the University decides is right, I'm good with for all the recruiting questions.
B. Take JUCOs?
C. Oversigning?
D. What matters most for recruits? (offer list, stars, the tape, or do you just trust the coaches?)

Bonus Football Topics:

a. Brian Kelly (love him, hate him, or TBD) He fits the position well.
b. Most hated team (USC, Michigan, or other?) I'll go with USC because Michigan is becoming irrelevant after this year.
c. Playoffs, BCS, or other? Playoffs
d. Scheduling (toughest possible or other?) Bring'em on.

Bonus non-Football topics:

I. Mike Brey (fire him or keep him?) Meh
II. Pay student-athletes? An equal allowance would be ok.

Obviously these are broad questions but try to keep your responses short when possible. My intent is simply to create a directory/reference that we can use to eliminate some repetitive conversations. Let me know if you think of any other major topics.

Condensing all IE threads into one?
 
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"Tradition"

1. Independence (keep it or join a conference?) Keep it as long as it is still possible to make the playoffs as an independent
2. Field Turf or Grass? Field turf to piss off NDNation
3. Jumbotron? Yes because it would objectively make the stadium better, and people who aren't for it are nerds

"Recruiting"

A. Shoot for the moon or limit recruiting to RKGs? RKG is a dumb term. Just do whatever they do now because our last few recruiting classes have been great.
B. Take JUCOs? Sure
C. Oversigning? Maybe by 2 or 3 every year because people are going to transfer/get kicked out/whatever
D. What matters most for recruits? (offer list, stars, the tape, or do you just trust the coaches?) Offer list and trusting the coaches. None of you can analyze highlight tapes put up by the players themselves.

Bonus Football Topics:

a. Brian Kelly (love him, hate him, or TBD) I will never be satisfied with a head coach.
b. Most hated team (USC, Michigan, or other?) Every team besides a ND and a select few can go to hell.
c. Playoffs, BCS, or other? 4 team playoff is absolutely perfect
d. Scheduling (toughest possible or other?) Tough enough that tickets are worth paying the outrageous donation, but not killer.

Bonus non-Football topics:

I. Mike Brey (fire him or keep him?) Fire him asap
II. Pay student-athletes? No, they'd probably raise the fucking ticket prices yet again if they had to pay these dudes
 
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After further thought, and reading the responses, I'd like to amend my Juco answer. I think we should accept them, but only if they can then qualify. If they worked their ass off academically while at a Juco, they deserve a shot to qualify at ND.
 
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Tradition - Don't take change as a disregard for tradition. You can't stay idle as the industry changes.
1. Independence as long as we can.
2. Turf
3. Jumbotron

Recruiting
1. Case by case, one size will not fit all. Are you coming off of a season of 11 wins or 7? How early is your class filling up? What are your position needs?
2. JUCOs - if they will not affect the graduation rate, bring them all.
3. Oversigning - Not sure about that. I don't think I like the idea, because eventually it will bite us. But I'm on the fence about this one.
4. What matters most for recruits - my player comparisons. Period.

Bonus topics.
1. BK - love him.
2. Most hated team - Michigan.
3. 8 team playoff.
4. Easier schedule, with 2 or 3 big time opponents.

Bonus
1. Never pay student athletes.
2. Fire Longo.
 
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"Tradition"

1. Independence (keep it or join a conference?) Gonna have to join up sooner or later
2. Field Turf or Grass? FT
3. Jumbotron? yep

"Recruiting"

A. Shoot for the moon or limit recruiting to RKGs? Fill your needs... don't worry about the number of stars
B. Take JUCOs? selectively
C. Oversigning? yes - as the Irish have more and more players leaving early this is one they are going to have to consider
D. What matters most for recruits? (offer list, stars, the tape, or do you just trust the coaches?) gotta trust the coaches to make the right decisions

Bonus Football Topics:

a. Brian Kelly (love him, hate him, or TBD) TBD... gotta win some bigger games first
b. Most hated team (USC, Michigan, or other?) tOSU, Michigan, USC, Auburn
c. Playoffs, BCS, or other? 8 team playoff
d. Scheduling (toughest possible or other?) the tougher the better

Bonus non-Football topics:

I. Mike Brey (fire him or keep him?) One more year
II. Pay student-athletes? could consider a well defined stipend


TTown sounding more and more like an irish fan
 

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My stance is straight up pimp for the most part, shoulders back, confident… MAYBE a slight slouch at the neck…

I'm with you on this.

Well, maybe not the pimp part.

A bit of a slouch – not a good thing at 5'6". The days and years extract a toll.

I find that I also take a wider stance to maintain balance.
 

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I like this. Good idea. Looking forward to reading everyone else's responses after I make mine.

"Tradition"

1. Independence (keep it or join a conference?) Keep it
2. Field Turf or Grass? Turf
3. Jumbotron? Yes

"Recruiting"

A. Shoot for the moon or limit recruiting to RKGs? Hate to cop out, but there needs to be a mix/balance
B. Take JUCOs? No
C. Oversigning? I'd hate to see us overdo it, but being at 86 or 87 for a moment wouldn't offend me
D. What matters most for recruits? (offer list, stars, the tape, or do you just trust the coaches?) Offer list

Bonus Football Topics:

a. Brian Kelly (love him, hate him, or TBD) Like him. Think he was the right hire, but TBD on his ceiling. Something about him also irks me a little, but I don't care as long as he wins.
b. Most hated team (USC, Michigan, or other?) Michigan. Real hate.
c. Playoffs, BCS, or other? Playoffs
d. Scheduling (toughest possible or other?) Smart scheduling. Have to have a shot at quality wins, which we'll always have, but don't need to run a gauntlet.

Bonus non-Football topics:

I. Mike Brey (fire him or keep him?) Don't really care. Not a ND basketball fan. But as a casual observer, I'll just say there is an expiration date on every coach.
II. Pay student-athletes? I don't want to see what would amount to unrestricted free agency in college sports, but something has to be done. Would favor a substantial "cost of living" stipend paid directly from the NCAA to the athletes via a pool all member school contribute to.
 

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"Tradition"

1. Independence (keep it or join a conference?) Independent unless/until circumstances force us to join the ACC
2. Field Turf or Grass? Field Turf - easier to maintain and eliminates a confounding variable of the game
3. Jumbotron? Yes, provided it's done tastefully like the one in the JACC and Compton

"Recruiting"

A. Shoot for the moon or limit recruiting to RKGs? shoot for the moon but have a stockpile of RKGs that can take their spot after their grandma gets sick
B. Take JUCOs? No. Kids that go to JUCO were usually so stupid/did something horrible enough that they couldn't go to the SEC
C. Oversigning? Only to get to 86/87 max
D. What matters most for recruits? (offer list, stars, the tape, or do you just trust the coaches?) I guess you have to trust the coaches, but the offer list is what sticks out to me usually.

Bonus Football Topics:

a. Brian Kelly (love him, hate him, or TBD) TBD - I'm not a huge fan of him as a person and I dislike how he tries to manipulate things in the media, but if he wins a National Championship or at least some BCS bowls I couldn't care less about his personality
b. Most hated team (USC, Michigan, or other?) michigan by far - fuck them
c. Playoffs, BCS, or other? Playoffs will be great
d. Scheduling (toughest possible or other?) 2 marquee elite opponents (#1-10), 3-4 teams ranked somewhere between 15-25, 3-4 teams from 25-40, and then the rest can be breathers

Bonus non-Football topics:

I. Mike Brey (fire him or keep him?) Fire him. Worst tournament coach I've seen retain such support.
II. Pay student-athletes? No. They get a stipend and have everything provided for that they need. However, there should be a way for players to get a cut of their merchandise sales (Te'o made the school millions, but never saw any of it) - maybe after they graduate or something.
 

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"Tradition"

1. Independence (keep it or join a conference?) - Stay Independent. The incentives of joining a conference are simply not there. Eventually, if a super conference system is on the horizon, then I see a massive split between teams. This will increase the SOS for all teams and eventually lead them to playing more difficult OOC schedules.

2. Field Turf or Grass? Field Turf. Grass simply isn't going to cut it in South Bend. It is still an anomaly that Soldier Field is still natural.

3. Jumbotron? If it's aesthetically pleasing? Sure thing.

"Recruiting"

A. Shoot for the moon or limit recruiting to RKGs? I really hope those 2 can go hand in hand, but honestly you just can't find many ELITE 5-star RKG's anymore. Jaylon Smith-type recruits are just a one-in-a-million type of player. However, the rest of the "shoot for the Moon" recruits come from schools that don't focus on education at all, and thus, they look for a school that is essentially the same. Even when a player states they are looking at getting an education, they are usually just making themselves look good in front of everyone.

B. Take JUCOs? Well, I'd have to say no. If a JUCO player is eligible to play here and now, then sure. But that's almost never the case. JUCO players generally couldn't even qualify for SEC schools, much less Notre Dame.

C. Oversigning? An absolute crime. I hate that the NCAA allows the SEC to get away with such shady actions. Allowing them past the rule of 25, and even letting them around their own rule of 28. As long as they have 28 recruits signed, they're fine. The loophole utilized is that Early-Enrollees don't count towards that 28 limit. THAT IS THE PROBLEM! I've heard that there a people pushing an earlier signing period. That's fine, AS LONG AS THEY ABOLISH THE SEC'S SHADY RECRUITING LOOPHOLES! No more rule of 28, no more oversigning EE's. You get 25, THAT'S IT!

D. What matters most for recruits? (offer list, stars, the tape, or do you just trust the coaches?) Well, I highly doubt each recruit is thinking the same. But I guess I'll try to break it down by the general "TYPE" of recruit:

- There are some (mainly high 4-5 stars from the South or California) that believe that their talents are enough to make it big and that they're invincible. They are mostly fooling themselves. They get by with their superior athleticism and generally look at a school that is a perennial football factory where you don't have to work hard in the classroom (Alabama, Ohio State, Florida, etc.), and use their play on the field to justify their spot on an NFL team and big bucks will fall into their laps.

- There are the VERY rare elite players that do believe in the value of a quality education. These are the one's that generally end up at Stanford or Notre Dame. Of course, as you can probably guess, as rare as these players are, it's even more difficult to tell if they mean it. Case in point, a certain individual who spurned Virginia Tech and Michigan, established elite engineering schools, for Alabama, a perennial football factory.

- The mostly unknown 4-star athlete, that most don't know much about and doesn't find his way up the boards because he committed early. This is generally what ND ends up with, and I'll be honest, 2014's class has a TON of them. They are elite enough to make a huge impact on the field, but level-headed enough to understand that making it big in the NFL, even for elite athletes, is very slim. They fully understand the qualities of a great education.

- The underrated, unknown player that went unnoticed for a majority of the season, a.k.a. Kolin Hill. A guy who went so long without a decent offer. Then ND gave him a decent look and he takes it almost immediately. These guys are looking for the chance to make it and are willing to do anything to succeed. They're hungry and determined. ND has a habit of making other teams and recruiting sites look like dumbasses with pickups like these. On a side note, HOW THE FUCK DID KOLIN HILL GO UNNOTICED FOR THAT LONG!?

Bonus Football Topics:

a. Brian Kelly (love him, hate him, or TBD) - Love him. His road with ND has been anything but smooth, understandably so. He inherited a team in total ruin. Lack of defensive talent and passion, no developed athletes to speak of, sans Floyd. We all knew this wasn't going to be a quick fix, but despite all the struggles and criticism, he's stayed calm and collective. Just doing his thing. With an established Dual-Threat QB to run his offense, I have very high expectations from this year forward.

b. Most hated team (USC, Michigan, or other?) USC, because at least Michigan does it somewhat cleanly. USC has to cheat their way to a national championship. Michigan, while greatly despised, has to go through similar recruiting tribulations as Notre Dame, due to weather. I honestly don't see the appeal to USC in terms of location and weather? Sure it's in LA, but in probably one of the worst parts of it, and those summers are BRUTAL!

c. Playoffs, BCS, or other? I'll hold my opinion until after this year's playoffs. As much crap the BCS got for it's faulty system, it actually got it right MOST of the time.

d. Scheduling (toughest possible or other?) Somewhere in between, closer to toughest. However, that is the one thing that's bad about the current system, is that no team has similar scheduling difficulties. First things first, NO MORE SCHEDULING FCS teams.

Bonus non-Football topics:

I. Mike Brey (fire him or keep him?) Keep him or let him walk on his own. There's no benefit of letting him go after one bad year. It's not like ND football where they can literally hire ANYBODY they want. Basketball isn't exactly one of the bigger seats at the table at Notre Dame.

II. Pay student-athletes? I say no. I was saying yes, due to it possibly minimizing the pay-for-play scandals going on in college football. However, greed runs the world. This won't stop the big green machine. Just because players get paid, doesn't mean the incentive of getting MORE dirty money under the greedy table isn't going to go away. The NCAA just needs to nut up and crack down on these violations. I'm sick and tired of them pussying out of EVERY SINGLE ONE! It seems like after the Cam Newton case, they just gave up. Maybe they want to save some credibility, but lord knows that they're losing more credibility from doing NOTHING...y'know if they actually had ANY credibility to begin with.
 

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C. Oversigning? An absolute crime. I hate that the NCAA allows the SEC to get away with such shady actions. Allowing them past the rule of 25, and even letting them around their own rule of 28. As long as they have 28 recruits signed, they're fine. The loophole utilized is that Early-Enrollees don't count towards that 28 limit. THAT IS THE PROBLEM! I've heard that there a people pushing an earlier signing period. That's fine, AS LONG AS THEY ABOLISH THE SEC'S SHADY RECRUITING LOOPHOLES! No more rule of 28, no more oversigning EE's. You get 25, THAT'S IT!

That isn't oversigning. That is perfectly legitimate. Oversigning is when you go over the 85 total scholarship numbers and wait for attrition or create reasons to get kids off scholarship when the natural attrition doesn't happen.

Nonetheless we know where you stand.

D. What matters most for recruits? (offer list, stars, the tape, or do you just trust the coaches?) Well, I highly doubt each recruit is thinking the same. But I guess I'll try to break it down by the general "TYPE" of recruit:

I'm nearly certain he is asking which of those you find most important when comparing kids who we are recruiting or deciding if you like a prospect
 

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"Tradition"

1. Independence (keep it or join a conference?) - IND as long as they can. Which looks like now they cant
2. Field Turf or Grass? - Turf. Grass is for wisconsin run only team trying to limit speed
3. Jumbotron? - Definately. When the low lv D1 teams have it and ND doesnt???

"Recruiting"

A. Shoot for the moon or limit recruiting to RKGs? - RKGs. Moons players = loss of reputation as well as high % of transfer
B. Take JUCOs? - No. JUCOs are not academically what ND wants. If they were serious about academics, they wouldnt be at a JUCO. This is just mercenary.
C. Oversigning? - No. And the NCAA really needs to crack down on this. Including grey shirts
D. What matters most for recruits? (offer list, stars, the tape, or do you just trust the coaches?) - trust the coaches. They know what fits their scheme.

Bonus Football Topics:

a. Brian Kelly (love him, hate him, or TBD) - best coach we have had since Lou.
b. Most hated team (USC, Michigan, or other?) - OSU but Mich is close second
c. Playoffs, BCS, or other? - Playoffs
d. Scheduling (toughest possible or other?) - This is a catch 22. Clearly teams like OSU will always schedule light and get perks for being B10. ND schedules tough and loses then gets no love for schedule. The fan in me says tough but the realist says tough wont get you NCs in today's football.

Bonus non-Football topics:

I. Mike Brey (fire him or keep him?) - There are no sports but football
II. Pay student-athletes? - Heck no. Most players wouldnt be in college if not for sports. The fact that they are getting a 200k education when everyone else has to pay is pay enough. If you do pay them, increase academic entrance and academic progression requirements significantly.
 

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"Tradition"

1. Independence (keep it or join a conference?) keep it
2. Field Turf or Grass? Field turf
3. Jumbotron? I like Oklahoma's version. Maybe a little bigger.

"Recruiting"

A. Shoot for the moon or limit recruiting to RKGs? Shoot for the moon
B. Take JUCOs? No.
C. Oversigning? I don't think it is possible at a place with high academic standards. Notre Dame can't store away players at Ivy Tech.
D. What matters most for recruits? (offer list, stars, the tape, or do you just trust the coaches?) If they are from Florida, Texas or California, the tape. Anywhere else, offer list.

Bonus Football Topics:

a. Brian Kelly (love him, hate him, or TBD) love him
b. Most hated team (USC, Michigan, or other?) Michigan
c. Playoffs, BCS, or other? Playoffs
d. Scheduling (toughest possible or other?) Look at 2015 schedule. I like that.

Bonus non-Football topics:

I. Mike Brey (fire him or keep him?) fire
II. Pay student-athletes? yes
 

garyasher

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"Tradition"

1. Independence (keep it or join a conference?) Independent as long as possible and then join the SEC, east preferably. Independence is what makes us unique and hated. Imagine what people would think if we joined the SEC. Recruiting would absolutely take off and all of the SEC fans would have to root for us when we make a National Championship game.
2. Field Turf or Grass? Turf
3. Jumbotron? Jumbotron for replays.

"Recruiting"

A. Shoot for the moon or limit recruiting to RKGs? RKGs
B. Take JUCOs? Have a policy, but make it almost impossible.
C. Oversigning? Nope
D. What matters most for recruits? (offer list, stars, the tape, or do you just trust the coaches?) Trust Coaches

Bonus Football Topics:

a. Brian Kelly (love him, hate him, or TBD) Like him
b. Most hated team (USC, Michigan, or other?) If we are playing USC, then USC, if we are playing Skunkbear, then Skunkbear.
c. Playoffs, BCS, or other? 6 or 8 team playoff and involve the bowls.
d. Scheduling (toughest possible or other?) Top 15 every year.

Bonus non-Football topics:

I. Mike Brey (fire him or keep him?) Keep him and give him some help.
II. Pay student-athletes? I don't know.

Obviously these are broad questions but try to keep your responses short when possible. My intent is simply to create a directory/reference that we can use to eliminate some repetitive conversations. Let me know if you think of any other major topics.[/QUOTE]
 

Cali_domer

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"Tradition"

1. Independence (keep it or join a conference?) Independent as long as possible and then join the SEC, east preferably. Independence is what makes us unique and hated. Imagine what people would think if we joined the SEC. Recruiting would absolutely take off and all of the SEC fans would have to root for us when we make a National Championship game.
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Nice... Reps.
 

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"Tradition"

1. Independence (keep it or join a conference?) Keep it
2. Field Turf or Grass? Field turf, but I echo Lax, practice on what you play on.
3. Jumbotron? Small jumbotron only for replays. no advertisements or silly games

"Recruiting"

A. Shoot for the moon or limit recruiting to RKGs? Shoot for the moon and fill late cycle 3 stars with RKG's. If you can get both, then even better
B. Take JUCOs? YES. I don't get why people get on a high horse about a kid with grades good enough to get on the team coming from a JuCo, when we currently have kids on our team that had 3.0 GPA's and 17 ACT scores. It's hypocrytical.
C. Oversigning? YES. We haven't had an 85 man roster as long as I can remember. The closest we've came is this year...and here we are... at 83 schollies
D. What matters most for recruits? (offer list, stars, the tape, or do you just trust the coaches?) A mix. I don't think you can rely on one in particular, but offers and tape are 1A and 1B for me.

Bonus Football Topics:

a. Brian Kelly (love him, hate him, or TBD) love him
b. Most hated team (USC, Michigan, or other?) USC. They are our true rival, not scUM
c. Playoffs, BCS, or other? Playoffs... I think...
d. Scheduling (toughest possible or other?) hehe.... Ok... I want 5 Tier One opponents per year (ie perrenial powerhouses) in order to maximize our chances at getting at least three defining wins a season. Which I believe is a prerequisite to get into the playoffs without being undefeated. Past that, i'm torn. I want Navy to stay on, but past that, I see some value in properly placing byes and scheduling "tune up" games before big time games.

Bonus non-Football topics:

I. Mike Brey (fire him or keep him?) Depends on who we can get. I don't want to fire him for firing sakes. But I don't believe he'll take us to the promised land. But if he's anything, he' consistent.
II. Pay student-athletes? Again... agree with Lax here. Olympic model would work
 
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"Tradition"

1. Independence (keep it or join a conference?) Independent
2. Field Turf or Grass? Field Turf
3. Jumbotron? Yes

"Recruiting"

A. Shoot for the moon or limit recruiting to RKGs? Shoot for the moon
B. Take JUCOs? Yes
C. Oversigning? Yes
D. What matters most for recruits? (offer list, stars, the tape, or do you just trust the coaches?) offer list

Bonus Football Topics:

a. Brian Kelly (love him, hate him, or TBD) hate him
b. Most hated team (USC, Michigan, or other?) Penn State
c. Playoffs, BCS, or other? Playoffs
d. Scheduling (toughest possible or other?) As is

Bonus non-Football topics:

I. Mike Brey (fire him or keep him?) keep him
II. Pay student-athletes? yes
 
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