VanGorder - New DC!

eNDzone

eNDzone

Irish to the bone!
Messages
831
Reaction score
53
Irish19 said:
Doesn't make a difference, in my opinion. Position coaches generally stay on the sidelines to give guidance, communicate adjustments and give players an emotional lift. They spend more time with their players, have a better understanding of what drives them/how to coach them and are generally better motivators than coordinators.
Click to expand...

If this is true then is it better to have an energetic DC up on the box or down with the position coaches and players?
 
Wild Bill

Wild Bill

Well-known member
Messages
5,517
Reaction score
3,260
eNDzone said:
If this is true then is it better to have an energetic DC up on the box or down with the position coaches and players?
Click to expand...

Depends. If a coordinator can get the job done from the sideline or the press box, I think he should be on the sideline. I just doubt you can do as good of a job from the sideline. It's easier to spot weaknesses, alignment and tendencies from the box.

I wouldn't sacrifice the advantages gained from being in the booth for an emotional boost on the sidelines. I just don't think it matters much at the end of the day. Players get jacked up for games and like I said, if they need a swift kick in the ass, their position coach is usually their to get the job done.
 
B

Bogtrotter07

Guest
BVG has coached on the sideline most of his career as a defensive coordinator. He likes it better. His first statement was it depends on the teams needs. In his interview this spring he said it looks like he will be on the sideline.

ND has a number of guys to put upstairs including Coaches Elliott an Coach Cooks.
 
eNDzone

eNDzone

Irish to the bone!
Messages
831
Reaction score
53
Bogtrotter07 said:
BVG has coached on the sideline most of his career as a defensive coordinator. He likes it better. His first statement was it depends on the teams needs. In his interview this spring he said it looks like he will be on the sideline.

ND has a number of guys to put upstairs including Coaches Elliott an Coach Cooks.
Click to expand...

What do you suppose drives BVG to be a sideline coach and Diaco to go upstairs? Is it a need to be in the action and have hands on control? Did Diaco believe that it was more important to read the O and trust his position coaches?
 
K

koonja

Guest
IDK why Diaco stayed in the booth. It gives a better view of the field and what's going on, but he was below average at in game adjustments IMO, so I don't see the point.
 
Irish#1

Irish#1

Livin' Your Dream!
Staff member
Messages
44,575
Reaction score
20,025
eNDzone said:
What do you suppose drives BVG to be a sideline coach and Diaco to go upstairs? Is it a need to be in the action and have hands on control? Did Diaco believe that it was more important to read the O and trust his position coaches?
Click to expand...

DNA
 
B

Bogtrotter07

Guest
koonja said:
IDK why Diaco stayed in the booth. It gives a better view of the field and what's going on, but he was below average at in game adjustments IMO, so I don't see the point.
Click to expand...

Great point, great post.

Maybe it is just style.
 
eNDzone

eNDzone

Irish to the bone!
Messages
831
Reaction score
53
The only reason i can think of wanting to be in the box is seeing the field so you can make adjustments. Seems like most DCs played the game at one time and would still want to be down on the field. A DC can have assistant coaches in his ear from the box. I like the idea of the DC being on the sidelines.
 
irishog77

irishog77

NOT SINBAD's NEPHEW
Messages
7,441
Reaction score
2,206
While not much changed fundamentally in Diaco's overall or in-game defense, I think it was pretty well documented on here (Whiskey?) how well Diaco's defense did in 2nd halves (minus Navy, twice) throughout his tenure. The staff was adjusting to something-- you don't make yards-allowed improvements like that without doing something right.

There were a lot of things I didn't like about Diaco, but his 2nd half defense wasn't one of them.
 
B

Buster Bluth

Guest
Going off this board you'd think Diaco's defenses gave up 50ppg.

Put me on record as saying that I generally loved his in-game adjustments and would take Diaco overall 9/10 times.
 
eNDzone

eNDzone

Irish to the bone!
Messages
831
Reaction score
53
I was and still am a strong Diaco supporter. It is just interesting to see the different DCs and the way they go about coaching. I was very sad to see Diaco go but I am hoping we got another gem in VanGorder. There is no doubt about it thier styles are not the same. But that does not make one good and the other bad. I would expect to see players let loose a lot more under BVG. If the players play to or above thier potential it should be an interesting year.
 
B

Bogtrotter07

Guest
Buster Bluth said:
Going off this board you'd think Diaco's defenses gave up 50ppg.

Put me on record as saying that I generally loved his in-game adjustments and would take Diaco overall 9/10 times.
Click to expand...

The tenth time being BVG over Diaco?
 
FLDomer

FLDomer

Polish Hammer
Messages
3,227
Reaction score
510
irishog77 said:
While not much changed fundamentally in Diaco's overall or in-game defense, I think it was pretty well documented on here (Whiskey?) how well Diaco's defense did in 2nd halves (minus Navy, twice) throughout his tenure. The staff was adjusting to something-- you don't make yards-allowed improvements like that without doing something right.

There were a lot of things I didn't like about Diaco, but his 2nd half defense wasn't one of them.
Click to expand...

Navy and FSU in the champs bowl....
 
B

Bogtrotter07

Guest
GBdomer said:
Anybody know if he will be on the field or in the box?
Click to expand...

In one of his first two interviews he said he wasn't sure, preferred the field, but he wasn't sure how it would shake out at ND. By the end of spring he clearly stated that he would be on the field barring some incredibly unforeseen situation.

(I think he finds it easier to have eyes in the sky, and deliver instructions on the field.)

In the Spring Game he was on the field, and not only instructing his defenders, but taunting the quarterbacks. He clearly had an exchange with Golson which made it clear he was pulling out the stops to trick EG, and it was working. BVG explained that he dialed it up way high for Golson.

Which I saw as a multiple advantage. BVG's skill and team comportment. Offensive, defensive, and head coach all on the same page. BVG could take EG around the country with the defensive schemes of our opponents to smooth out the cerebral wrinkles in EG's game. Very big plusses!
 
Irish YJ

Irish YJ

Southsida
Messages
25,888
Reaction score
1,444
Bogtrotter07 said:
In one of his first two interviews he said he wasn't sure, preferred the field, but he wasn't sure how it would shake out at ND. By the end of spring he clearly stated that he would be on the field barring some incredibly unforeseen situation.

(I think he finds it easier to have eyes in the sky, and deliver instructions on the field.)

In the Spring Game he was on the field, and not only instructing his defenders, but taunting the quarterbacks. He clearly had an exchange with Golson which made it clear he was pulling out the stops to trick EG, and it was working. BVG explained that he dialed it up way high for Golson.

Which I saw as a multiple advantage. BVG's skill and team comportment. Offensive, defensive, and head coach all on the same page. BVG could take EG around the country with the defensive schemes of our opponents to smooth out the cerebral wrinkles in EG's game. Very big plusses!
Click to expand...

Good pts Bogs. Hope is still around when we play UGA!!
 
Ironman8

Ironman8

Jaqen H'ghar
Messages
11,652
Reaction score
902
BVG has said he will be on the field. I assume Coach Elliott will be up in the box.
 
Domina Nostra

Domina Nostra

Well-known member
Messages
6,251
Reaction score
1,388
LOVE. THE. FIRE.

The dude's attitude is contagious. He's a frickin' viking.

ND has needed this for years. Love having him on the sideline.
 
Junkhead

Junkhead

Community Mod
Messages
7,595
Reaction score
1,354
Domina Nostra said:
LOVE. THE. FIRE.

The dude's attitude is contagious. He's a frickin' viking.

ND has needed this for years. Love having him on the sideline.
Click to expand...

It's still way early, but damn I've already forgotten about that other guy....hmmm, sexy hair, how tall was he? Nevermind, love that VG is on the field and firing everybody up!
 
Booslum31

Booslum31

New member
Messages
5,687
Reaction score
187
He's got these guys flying around. So many young guys are getting playing time. So much of playing defense is attitude and passion...he has both and it's contagious. Loved him fist pumping there towards the end of the game.
 
D

DogDaysIrish

Active member
Messages
557
Reaction score
81
Dude's a beast... He does have a cheesy porn stache, but he can coach the hell out of the defense. Love it!!!
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top