UND News (General)

[GowerND11]

Why are you going to attend a Catholic university, knowing full well what the beliefs are on this subject, and sue? You are a douche canoe to the highest order, looking to show how edgy you are, and doing this for attention.

 

[IrishTusker]

Everyone formally associated with Irish 4 Reproductive Justice ought to be fired or expelled immediately.

Why? (For the record I am utterly opposed to ND paying for such drugs and consider the lawsuit frivolous.)

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Why? (For the record I am utterly opposed to ND paying for such drugs and consider the lawsuit frivolous.)

See Gower's post above. Every student and faculty member who signed on for this: (1) freely chose to attend/ work at a Catholic university; and then (2) chose to sue that university for actually being Catholic.

These people are snakes who need to be expelled from the community ASAP. And this also ought to make ND scrutinize its hiring and admissions practices. That anyone with standing and the willingness to bring this suit exists at all is a strong indictment of our vetting process.

 

[NDPhilly]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A group of Notre Dame students, not officially affiliated with the university, is seeking to force the Catholic university to pay for abortifacient drugs. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NotreDame</a> <a href="https://t.co/Gy5EbFE6V0">https://t.co/Gy5EbFE6V0</a></p>— Kevin J. Jones (@kevinjjones) <a href="https://twitter.com/kevinjjones/status/1222192448148885504?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Everyone formally associated with Irish 4 Reproductive Justice ought to be fired or expelled immediately.

These purple haired godless liberals got in ahead of me lmao

 

[Legacy]

Notre Dame Day 2020; THE FUN BEGINS OCTOBER 26, 2020 AT 6:42PM ET

 

[IrishLax]

WSBT reporting that there is going to be a faculty senate emergency meeting tonight to "take up a motion of no confidence" against Jenkins.

 

[Irish YJ]

WSBT reporting that there is going to be a faculty senate emergency meeting tonight to "take up a motion of no confidence" against Jenkins.

Is it due to the mask thing?

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

 

[greyhammer90]

From a pure football perspective, this isn't good news. My understanding is that Jenkins is much more football friendly than any of his likely replacements.

 

[GrangerIrish24]

Couldn’t they do this after the Clemson game?

 

[SouthSideChiDomer]

From a pure football perspective, this isn't good news. My understanding is that Jenkins is much more football friendly than any of his likely replacements.

Who are his likely replacements? The person rumored to be next up from when I was on campus seems like he would be pro-sports.

 

[SouthSideChiDomer]

WSBT reporting that there is going to be a faculty senate emergency meeting tonight to "take up a motion of no confidence" against Jenkins.

Do you have a link? I couldn't find it on their website.

And is this a new vote or just a continuation of the one from three weeks ago? Because that one was narrowly voted to be postponed, so this could just be the official vote on it now, not some new thing that is popping up. And now with a couple weeks for everything to blow over and Jenkins having to deal with the tragic death of two students, I doubt they actually do it now. It might just be a formality the Faculty Senate rules state they have to go through.

 

[BobbyMac]

Do you have a link? I couldn't find it on their website.

And is this a new vote or just a continuation of the one from three weeks ago? Because that one was narrowly voted to be postponed, so this could just be the official vote on it now, not some new thing that is popping up. And now with a couple weeks for everything to blow over and Jenkins having to deal with the tragic death of two students, I doubt they actually do it now. It might just be a formality the Faculty Senate rules state they have to go through.

https://www.facebook.com/WSBTNews/videos/795301934651875/

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NEW?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NEW</a>: I have a big story tonight at 5 & 6 about a <a href="https://twitter.com/NotreDame?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NotreDame</a> Faculty Senate emergency meeting -- an "extraordinary meeting" -- taking place tomorrow night. <br><br>The Senate will take up a motion of no confidence in President Rev. John Jenkins.<br><br>Hope you'll tune in <a href="https://twitter.com/WSBT?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WSBT</a> <a href="https://t.co/EsLGLAFQXc">pic.twitter.com/EsLGLAFQXc</a></p>— Tolly Taylor WSBT (@TollyTaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TollyTaylor/status/1320794617818861569?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Rack Em]

Hold on. Lemme check with my sources.

 

[stpeteirish]

The Board of Trustees will determine Jenkins' fate, not the Faculty Senate. BOT would pick his successor as well.

Faculty will be listened to, of course, but BOT has a mind of its own.

Students have already weighed in against Jenkins but what does the alumni think?

 

[IrishLax]

From a pure football perspective, this isn't good news. My understanding is that Jenkins is much more football friendly than any of his likely replacements.

This is correct, we should hope Jenkins stays forever.

 

[SouthSideChiDomer]

https://www.facebook.com/WSBTNews/videos/795301934651875/

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NEW?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NEW</a>: I have a big story tonight at 5 & 6 about a <a href="https://twitter.com/NotreDame?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NotreDame</a> Faculty Senate emergency meeting -- an "extraordinary meeting" -- taking place tomorrow night. <br><br>The Senate will take up a motion of no confidence in President Rev. John Jenkins.<br><br>Hope you'll tune in <a href="https://twitter.com/WSBT?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WSBT</a> <a href="https://t.co/EsLGLAFQXc">pic.twitter.com/EsLGLAFQXc</a></p>— Tolly Taylor WSBT (@TollyTaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TollyTaylor/status/1320794617818861569?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yeah, this seems to me like it might just be a misunderstanding of the vote not being new, but being a continuation of the one from three weeks ago which was approved to be postponed.

 

[Sea Turtle]

See Gower's post above. Every student and faculty member who signed on for this: (1) freely chose to attend/ work at a Catholic university; and then (2) chose to sue that university for actually being Catholic.

These people are snakes who need to be expelled from the community ASAP. And this also ought to make ND scrutinize its hiring and admissions practices. That anyone with standing and the willingness to bring this suit exists at all is a strong indictment of our vetting process.

They wanted to be like an Ivy League school instead of a Catholic school. This is what you get.

 

[Sea Turtle]

WSBT reporting that there is going to be a faculty senate emergency meeting tonight to "take up a motion of no confidence" against Jenkins.

The faculty can go perform an impossible sex act. They hate the football program. They don't have any affinity for Catholicism. It's all cold academics to them.

Jenkins has been fantastic for the entire University. Whiskey Jack is right, these people are snakes and are looking for any excuse to get rid of Jenkins for someone to their liking.

 

[Irish YJ]

The faculty can go perform an impossible sex act. They hate the football program. They don't have any affinity for Catholicism. It's all cold academics to them.

Jenkins has been fantastic for the entire University. Whiskey Jack is right, these people are snakes and are looking for any excuse to get rid of Jenkins for someone to their liking.

The Pope should issue order 66 on their asses. You need a good purge every once in a while.

 

[Irish#1]

This is correct, we should hope Jenkins stays forever.

First thing that came to mind when I saw the notice.

 

[Henges24]

Laughable.

 

[Irish YJ]

https://wsbt.com/news/operation-edu...of-no-confidence-in-president-fr-john-jenkins

 

[Irish#1]

I can see why some got upset that he didn't wear the mask, but he's openly apologized. Given his track record as President, this should have been over with after his apology. I suspect there are a lot of libs on campus that didn't like that he attended what was essentially a conservative function. This has political undertones written all over it.

 

[EvilleIrish]

I can see why some got upset that he didn't wear the mask, but he's openly apologized. Given his track record as President, this should have been over with after his apology. I suspect there are a lot of libs on campus that didn't like that he attended what was essentially a conservative function. This has political undertones written all over it.

1000%. I think this is evident too in some of the responses that have happened to ACB being confirmed last night. This should be something that ND is extremely proud of, regardless of who put forth the nomination.

 

[Rack Em]

Miscamble for President!

 

[IrishLax]

I can see why some got upset that he didn't wear the mask, but he's openly apologized. Given his track record as President, this should have been over with after his apology. I suspect there are a lot of libs on campus that didn't like that he attended what was essentially a conservative function. This has political undertones written all over it.

Yes, this is purely political. Same reason a bunch of professors in irrelevant departments who don't know Amy Coney Barrett drafted a letter demanding she withdraw from consideration. It is unavoidable to have heavy Leftist bias in academia, and Notre Dame probably does a better job than any other top University in also having a number of prominent conservative professors + ideological balance. Which -- ironically -- is why Jenkins constantly gets shit from both flanks. It is literally impossible to please both the Sycamore Trust and Iris Outlaw at the same time.

 

[RDU Irish]

Yes, this is purely political. Same reason a bunch of professors in irrelevant departments who don't know Amy Coney Barrett drafted a letter demanding she withdraw from consideration. It is unavoidable to have heavy Leftist bias in academia, and Notre Dame probably does a better job than any other top University in also having a number of prominent conservative professors + ideological balance. Which -- ironically -- is why Jenkins constantly gets shit from both flanks. It is literally impossible to please both the Sycamore Trust and Iris Outlaw at the same time.

I find this funny - how would we know it is unavoidable if they don't even try?

To me it is as much about avoiding wildly intolerant liberals as it is providing "balance" with conservative counterpoints. I only get one class run by one teacher, I don't get a "balanced" education just b/c the department is "balanced". I would start with every single person who signed against ACB - work those idiots out. HUGE feather in ND's cap and faculty is revolting? Such intolerant partisanship should be punished in an academic environment. This is a huge coup against the Ivy establishment, not just an ND win.

 

[Irish YJ]

I find this funny - how would we know it is unavoidable if they don't even try?

To me it is as much about avoiding wildly intolerant liberals as it is providing "balance" with conservative counterpoints. I only get one class run by one teacher, I don't get a "balanced" education just b/c the department is "balanced". I would start with every single person who signed against ACB - work those idiots out. HUGE feather in ND's cap and faculty is revolting? Such intolerant partisanship should be punished in an academic environment. This is a huge coup against the Ivy establishment, not just an ND win.

Just not sure how you can manage that. Many Catholic HSs require their teachers/employees to sign something basically saying they will personally adhere to Catholic faith values, etc. And even that has been under attack. Indy had a big blow up last year when a female GC in a same sex marriage was terminated. And if you're trying to reduce simply "liberal" aspects, even signing something adhering to Catholic values doesn't do anything to limit things like Marxists, etc. IMO, the only means is an unspoken effort in the interview process.

 

[IrishLax]

I find this funny - how would we know it is unavoidable if they don't even try?

To me it is as much about avoiding wildly intolerant liberals as it is providing "balance" with conservative counterpoints. I only get one class run by one teacher, I don't get a "balanced" education just b/c the department is "balanced". I would start with every single person who signed against ACB - work those idiots out. HUGE feather in ND's cap and faculty is revolting? Such intolerant partisanship should be punished in an academic environment. This is a huge coup against the Ivy establishment, not just an ND win.

Because the pool of high achieving Ph.D.’s you’re selecting from is overwhelmingly left leaning. So unless you want to choose to actively insert political bias into your hiring process and select less qualified people there is no changing how the numbers will naturally shake out.