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Do you think they honestly don't see the hypocrisy in what they're saying? I find it fascinating lol.
Sadly a lot of American voters are this way. They like what they hear out of a candidate's mouth, even if they don't practice what they preach. I'm sure a lot of them believe their candidate is innocent of any wrongdoing or they're willing to overlook it because the alternative bats for the other team.
 

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love the videos as college campuses and blocked highways are doing Trump and the GOP a huge favor.

We hate America vs a billionaires bad business practices.
 

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Guy who says we have differences, but he isn’t a bad man lost with dignity.

Guy who calls Obama a terrorist cried for 4 years.
I would rather have an asshole winner than a good guy loser 11 times out of 10. McCain is a neo-con who epitomizes the the Military Industrial Complex. I could argue he is way more dangerous than Trump who started zero wars. Bomb Iran to the tune of Barbara Ann. Maybe, just maybe, tons of people are stuck in the R camp b/c the alternative is so terribly toxic, not because they slobber on the knobs of their overlords. Trump has a disturbing number of knob gobblers for sure - at least they wave the American flag while doing it.
 

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I would rather have an asshole winner than a good guy loser 11 times out of 10. McCain is a neo-con who epitomizes the the Military Industrial Complex. I could argue he is way more dangerous than Trump who started zero wars. Bomb Iran to the tune of Barbara Ann. Maybe, just maybe, tons of people are stuck in the R camp b/c the alternative is so terribly toxic, not because they slobber on the knobs of their overlords. Trump has a disturbing number of knob gobblers for sure - at least they wave the American flag while doing it.
They wave the American flag next to the loser Confederate flag while being overtly racist pieces of shit. They aren't "patriots" they are white nationalists who believe in mega conspiracy theories and think the "brown man" is trying to get rid of them.
 

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Just shows what Trump has done to your party. You might as well go root for Michigan while you’re at it. You don’t care about right and wrong or the truth and lies as long your “team” wins….deplorable.

I should dig back and find my comments eight years ago about the Supreme Court being the #1 reason to vote for Trump and every other issue/flaw isn't even close. That was without even thinking Roe v Wade was possible. Took a fake Republican to get it done - give me an effective charlatan over the distinguished perma-politician all day, every day. No war was nice too - I would think that could unite the libs but you are so well brainwashed you can't see past raw hatred of your opposition.
 

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They wave the American flag next to the loser Confederate flag while being overtly racist pieces of shit. They aren't "patriots" they are white nationalists who believe in mega conspiracy theories and think the "brown man" is trying to get rid of them.

You really believe that? No bigotry in labeling half the country racist for opposing your commie dream. Again, raw hatred from the tolerant. Enjoy your meds.
 

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You really believe that? No bigotry in labeling half the country racist for opposing your commie dream. Again, raw hatred from the tolerant. Enjoy your meds.
Dude I have been Libertarian for 16 years, but sure Commie :ROFLMAO:.
 

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Guy who says we have differences, but he isn’t a bad man lost with dignity.

Guy who calls Obama a terrorist cried for 4 years.
I agree with this. That said, I’m no fan of NeoCons either. The Ukraine/Russia war can be traced back to guys like McCain & Chris Murphy (Dem from CT) photo-opping w/ a bunch of neo-Nazis supporting Ukraine. Then fast forward to the current war and you have Mitt Romney who took four deferrals to avoid Vietnam calling a veteran like Tulsi Gabbard a traitor. Even “nice guys” can be not so nice when it comes to power.
 

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I agree with this. That said, I’m no fan of NeoCons either. The Ukraine/Russia war can be traced back to guys like McCain & Chris Murphy (Dem from CT) photo-opping w/ a bunch of neo-Nazis supporting Ukraine. Then fast forward to the current war and you have Mitt Romney who took four deferrals to avoid Vietnam calling a veteran like Tulsi Gabbard a traitor. Even “nice guys” can be not so nice when it comes to power.
Oh yeah. As I've gotten older, I've learned to dislike McCain's politics more. But I respect how he handled his campaign. I think he also knew from the beginning that it was always going to be a difficult campaign for him to win.
 

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Dude I have been Libertarian for 16 years, but sure Commie :ROFLMAO:.
No wonder you’re more balanced in your posts than most…Cheers!

People that throw around the word “Commie” & “Nazi” rarely know the atrocities both groups perpetrated on innocent civilians. It’s a shame those labels are thrown around the way they are b/c it numbs us to those atrocities that are rarely, if ever; taught in school (other than the Holocaust of course).
 

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Oh yeah. As I've gotten older, I've learned to dislike McCain's politics more. But I respect how he handled his campaign. I think he also knew from the beginning that it was always going to be a difficult campaign for him to win.
Agreed. He handled it w/ class & could read a room. I’ll forever be respectful of what he endured in Vietnam. I’ve also evolved from my younger days when I thought forever wars were righteous & things like the “Patriot Act” were necessary. I was ignorant to the facts & can now see that looking back.
 

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No wonder you’re more balanced in your posts than most…Cheers!

People that throw around the word “Commie” & “Nazi” rarely know the atrocities both groups perpetrated on innocent civilians. It’s a shame those labels are thrown around the way they are b/c it numbs us to those atrocities that are rarely, if ever; taught in school (other than the Holocaust of course).

They wave the American flag next to the loser Confederate flag while being overtly racist pieces of shit. They aren't "patriots" they are white nationalists who believe in mega conspiracy theories and think the "brown man" is trying to get rid of them.

LOL - can't make this shit up.
 

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LOL - can't make this shit up.
LOL no you can't. Because people at Trump rallies literally do fly that flag. They do have racist views.

Does that mean everyone? No of course not, but I'm sure you will put words in my mouth.

Do I think people on the left are idiots who are too self absorbed and have their heads so far up their asses to realize that some of the policies they favor are actually segregation? YUP.

But I'm not going to sit here and agree that Trump is somehow better than McCain because he won while pandering to racists "good people on both sides," calling Obama a terrorist and foreigner, not condemning the Proud Boys, and then when he did lose throw the largest hissy fit since Bill O'Reilly's "FUCK IT WE'LL DO IT LIVE!"
 

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No wonder you’re more balanced in your posts than most…Cheers!

People that throw around the word “Commie” & “Nazi” rarely know the atrocities both groups perpetrated on innocent civilians. It’s a shame those labels are thrown around the way they are b/c it numbs us to those atrocities that are rarely, if ever; taught in school (other than the Holocaust of course).
Just finished watching a show called Berlin 1945. When the Russians overtook Berlin in WWII, they were repeatedly raping pretty much every female they came across. Yes, those terms are used too liberally.
 

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LOL no you can't. Because people at Trump rallies literally do fly that flag. They do have racist views.

Does that mean everyone? No of course not, but I'm sure you will put words in my mouth.

Do I think people on the left are idiots who are too self absorbed and have their heads so far up their asses to realize that some of the policies they favor are actually segregation? YUP.

But I'm not going to sit here and agree that Trump is somehow better than McCain because he won while pandering to racists "good people on both sides," calling Obama a terrorist and foreigner, not condemning the Proud Boys, and then when he did lose throw the largest hissy fit since Bill O'Reilly's "FUCK IT WE'LL DO IT LIVE!"

You don't have to agree that Trump was better than McCain, you just have to accept it as a valid argument. Libertarians are terrible at building coalitions which is why they are a loser joke on par with the Green party. Enjoy your philosophical purity battling it out for third place. You should celebrate Trump breaking the Republican party. The enemy of your enemy is your friend. My enemy is the swamp establishment. My enemy is big government controlled by overreaching three letter agencies. You have been convinced Trump is the devil when the reality is he is closer to your side than anyone in recent memory. Ron Paul's of the world elevating a message only goes so far, at some point you have to win and play for keeps (this last part is what Republicans are terrible at).
 

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LOL no you can't. Because people at Trump rallies literally do fly that flag. They do have racist views.

Does that mean everyone? No of course not, but I'm sure you will put words in my mouth.

Do I think people on the left are idiots who are too self absorbed and have their heads so far up their asses to realize that some of the policies they favor are actually segregation? YUP.

But I'm not going to sit here and agree that Trump is somehow better than McCain because he won while pandering to racists "good people on both sides," calling Obama a terrorist and foreigner, not condemning the Proud Boys, and then when he did lose throw the largest hissy fit since Bill O'Reilly's "FUCK IT WE'LL DO IT LIVE!"
The "good people on both sides" got debunked years ago lol. So I'd encourage you to read a transcript of what Donald said and get back to us.

As for the flag, I don't mind it. There was a black guy in my panhandle neighborhood who had one flying from his truck. I don't think he was racist. Some people who wave it around probably are.
 

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The "good people on both sides" got debunked years ago lol. So I'd encourage you to read a transcript of what Donald said and get back to us.

As for the flag, I don't mind it. There was a black guy in my panhandle neighborhood who had one flying from his truck. I don't think he was racist. Some people who wave it around probably are.
Oh sure, I don't think everyone who waves it is automatically racist. But a lot are. Many are also ignorant or idk the right word.. almost thickheaded?

I think being a northerner it just truly annoys me seeing people here in PA, and where I live is where the First Defenders are from, the people who rushed to D.C. at the start of it all to answer Lincoln's call.
 

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Just finished watching a show called Berlin 1945. When the Russians overtook Berlin in WWII, they were repeatedly raping pretty much every female they came across. Yes, those terms are used too liberally.

Some things never change…
 

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Just finished watching a show called Berlin 1945. When the Russians overtook Berlin in WWII, they were repeatedly raping pretty much every female they came across. Yes, those terms are used too liberally.
I don't know how true it is or if I'm getting details mixed up, but the aftermath of that apparently played a big role in post-war Germany legalizing abortion.
 

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LOL no you can't. Because people at Trump rallies literally do fly that flag. They do have racist views.

Does that mean everyone? No of course not, but I'm sure you will put words in my mouth.

Do I think people on the left are idiots who are too self absorbed and have their heads so far up their asses to realize that some of the policies they favor are actually segregation? YUP.

But I'm not going to sit here and agree that Trump is somehow better than McCain because he won while pandering to racists "good people on both sides," calling Obama a terrorist and foreigner, not condemning the Proud Boys, and then when he did lose throw the largest hissy fit since Bill O'Reilly's "FUCK IT WE'LL DO IT LIVE!"
You and I agree on a number of things, disagree on a few. To the Trump rallies and who's there and what their stances are, I would say our country has seen more racism and hatred on college campuses in the past 2 weeks than we did in the past 8 years of Trump being in a political position/ campaign. And it's not even close.

If we're putting it in football terms, I'd say the racism score is Left 49 Right 10. Just one guy's opinion.
 

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They wave the American flag next to the loser Confederate flag while being overtly racist pieces of shit. They aren't "patriots" they are white nationalists who believe in mega conspiracy theories and think the "brown man" is trying to get rid of them.
This is exactly why we roll our eyes at so many people from the left as gullible, nonthinking parrots of the dishonest propaganda fed to you. Mindlessly repeating the erroneous bs you hear on TikTok or MSNBC is a poor substitute for informed intelligent thought.
 

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