Tommy Rees Notre Dame Man?

[GBdomer]

Just devil's advocate here… you have no problem with Manti's fake GF hoax? It's probably the most embarrassing scandal the University ever had.

Was he representing the university well?

disclaimer - I don't hold that against Manti. Just playing devil's advocate.

I agree and I think Te'o lied and handled the whole situation like a jackass. He lied the whole time IMO

 

[IrishLax]

I agree and I think Te'o lied and handled the whole situation like a jackass. He lied the whole time IMO

What does this even mean? You think he was in on it?

 

[GBdomer]

What does this even mean? You think he was in on it?

Not that he was in on it. But come on how do you not know? Even some of his teammates didn't believe it and one of them just said he was going along with it. Then he tells his dad he meet her after the Stanford game or something? They never skyped or meet when they went home for break. This isn't the discussion for it but if your asking me if I believed anything Te'o said I am gonna tell you no.

 

[NDPhilly]

Just devil's advocate here… you have no problem with Manti's fake GF hoax? It's probably the most embarrassing scandal the University ever had.

Was he representing the university well?

disclaimer - I don't hold that against Manti. Just playing devil's advocate.

As a ND fan I pretty much just gloss over the whole Fake GF saga because we know what a great leader, teammate, and person that he is, but I can see where you are coming from.

 

[Mr. McGibblets]

I was never a fan of the "Notre Dame Man" thing in the first place--in my opinion, it is corny. I get the concept---just not my cup of tea. Anyway, As much as I can remember, I've never said anything bad about him on this board but have said a ton to my dad and brother in conversation (mostly out of frustration).

But to play the debate game, I didn't even think Nix deserved the designation, let alone Tommy. When I first saw the designation for Louis I thought "Serious? Whatever." I loved it for Teo. Giving it to Rees would seem cheap and more of a 'homer/I feel bad he got booed by his fans/so this will show everyone that we stand behind our guys' type of vote.

I voted No. But in the end, I'll be annoyed for 5 seconds and move on. I don't foresee his thread popping up much following this season until his combine or he gets invited to a team'a camp and subsequently cut (assuming he doesn't Kurt Warner us). There are Many great character guys on ND. To me, Just because he accepted his role doesn't mean he gets the 'Man' designation.

Teo was heart and soul. Tommy, from what I ever saw on TV, wasn't.

 

[Mr. McGibblets]

And, just because The option "yes" has majority, shouldn't mean he auto-receives the designation. It should have to be damn near unanimous.

I said I didn't care and now I'm chiming in on criteria for 'Man' designation.

 

[phillyirish]

How bout we just settle for the middle ground and label him "Notre Dame Women" cause he throws like one.

 

[woolybug25]

How bout we just settle for the middle ground and label him "Notre Dame Women" cause he throws like one.

Like... Multiple women?

 

[phillyirish]

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Not Lying, I literally though this was real, but then I realized that is way too much muscle definition for it to be Tommy Reese.

 

[Bubbles]

I voted yes because I don't want Carlo's people after me.

 

[pumpdog20]

My criteria is one who makes an impact on the field and sacrifices for the team.

This IMO, is what separates Rees from some of the suggestions. How many of the other players (Jones, Spond, etc) had to deal with the fans personally booing him and death threats on twitter? He could have easily left after being a starter and then an afterthought until Purdue.

Plus he's a statistical top 5 QB at the school. ND Man indeed!

 

[Fbolt]

As someone who didn't even attend school there, who the f@ck am I to say he isn't?

 

[Senoj13]

I voted no because in my opinion most of the reasons the board is giving are things that should be expected of a player. It's kind of like that Chris Rock joke of people bragging that "I take care of my kids!!" No $hit.....that's what you are supposed to do. You are supposed to be a good teammate and not complain and do everything the coaching staff asks of you.

 

[woolybug25]

I voted yes because I don't want Carlo's people after me.

This newb is coming in hot!

Way to come in strong with your first post and avatar. You're gonna fit in nicely!

 

[AFisch86]

I can't see him in the same category as nix or teo

 

[GEORGIA DOMER]

I voted "yes". Maybe I didn't love Tommys play on the field all the time. I think he handled himself with class. Everett Golson grows under Tommy Rees' tutelage - ESPN

 

[NDohio]

I am truly torn on this. Tommy handled himself in a way that exemplifies ND. All of the hate and booing he had to endure was terrible(our fan base should be embarrassed) but you never heard a peep out of him. But, I don't think he did anything more for ND or ND football in the last four years than TJ. TJ, to me, has been the heart of this team this year and he deserves a lot more recognition for that. The way TJ has grown as a player and person has been fun to watch. Gonna have to vote no for this one.

 

[Irish Insanity]

Possibly we can lump tittle changes like this in with the annual awards every year. We could nominate who if any deserves a tittle change and to what. Then a vote.

 

[palinurus]

This isn't even close. It's no. I appreciate his effort and team spirit, but he was an erratic quarterback with terrible mechanics that never got any better, he was helped out be having very good to excellent receivers, and he played really poorly at the worst time in many big games. I am not crapping on him and I recognize we would have been much worse without him, but he does not merit the exalted designation.

 

[Black Irish]

To me, "Notre Dame Man" isn't just about the players who were world-beaters and racked up a bunch of awards bling. ND isn't an SEC school that only cares about stats and trophies. ND, despite being one of the biggest boys on the CFB block, still has that perpetual outsider/underdog status. The school was dogged for so long because it was a Catholic institution, and that prejudice still lingers. But the Irish get through it, not only by winning, but because they have integrity and character. And I think that Rees has that in spades.

Yes, he made mistakes and has flaws. No, he's not an elite QB but he's got guts, drive, and perseverance. Saying that he's just doing what he's supposed to is selling Rees short. And his one off-the-field incident could theoretically disqualify him, but then I think you have to bar Michael Floyd from consideration and Golson from future consideration. All-in-all, I've got no problem calling Rees a Notre Dame Man.

 

[Rhode Irish]

There is no criteria. He was fed a shit sandwich in his time here and asked for more. While not certainly an elite football guy, he is what ND is, through and through.

Not being a "Notre Dame man" myself, I don't know if I feel qualified to vote. But Phork's post does a good job of summing up how I feel about the question.

 

[gkIrish]

Regardless of what you think "Notre Dame Man" means, 35% (of a large sample size) of us don't think he deserves the special designation. Should be closer to 90% IMO for a name change.

 

[goldandblue]

I think the pole speaks for itself. 65% for the title being granted 35% against. Mods, is it time to hand Mr. Rees the crown title of "Notre Dame Man"?

 

[koonja]

FWIW, I'd be fine with Tommy having 'ND man' or anything else, as long as someone like Manti has a 'better' title.

 

[Senoj13]

FWIW, I'd be fine with Tommy having 'ND man' or anything else, as long as someone like Manti has a 'better' title.

Can't agree more about Teo. Teo was a once in a generation type player and IMO cheapens the designation by putting anyone else in the category.

And my vote still is no.

 

[koonja]

Manti could have went anywhere in the country for football, and he prayed, traveled, and chose ND for all of the right reasons. IDK what offers Tommy had, but I'd bet money ND was a no-brainer for him, as he probably didn't have a better offer on the table. Given Manti's almost guaranteed NFL future, you could argue ND was not his best option (although I wouldn't because you never know), but he still chose us for the religion, feel, tradition, and academics.

Like Senoj13 said, Manti is a once in a decade type of talent. Tommy is 5th on the passing list, correct. But don't confuse records with talent. Look at offenses no-a-days compared to when Montana played. It's a different type of football. Add to that that Tommy's had a ton of PT because of really, really unfortunate QB situations at ND.

Manti was the face of this program and the unquestioned leader of the team as a linebacker. What team has ever played in the title game and has been able to say that? Or any defender for that matter? Charles Woodson, maybe? The fact that he was held in such high regard by his peers tells me all I need to know about his leadership and character.

Side note - Manti graduated with ~3.2 which is very respectable for a football player at ND IMO. No idea how Tommy did academically? I'd guess fine, but not sure.

And if you read/hear what people outside of ND say about Manti, it's powerful, powerful stuff. He's not your typical student/football star. There's something special about him. It's like the Court's definition of pornography. You don't know how to define it, but you know it when you see it (sorry for the 180-comparison, it's all I had).


Tommy did well and ND is better for having him, but let's keep him in his lane.

 

[RallySonsOfND]

I think the pole speaks for itself. 65% for the title being granted 35% against. Mods, is it time to hand Mr. Rees the crown title of "Notre Dame Man"?

no.

 

[GEORGIA DOMER]

Was there a vote for Manti?

 

[GEORGIA DOMER]

I think if u start x amount of games and graduate. You should get the IE "Notre Dame Man" status.

 

[Senoj13]

This is becoming the everyone gets a trophy argument. Teo is one of the best defensive players to play at ND.....EVER. When the conversation comes around to Rees on offense, he would not even get mentioned.