Spring Practice Thread 2018

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Seems pretty easy, why don't you show us all? I'm not the one making bold statements and not backing it up.

Why would I do your homework for you?

Literally just pick any game he plays in.. I can't embed my DVR for you, but if you have any game, watch it...
 

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My small opinion of Bilal is that he looks like a fine athlete who doesn't have good diagnostic instincts for the game --- i.e. he's a fast guy with a slow reaction to what's actually happening. We had a great athlete named Filer a few years ago that reminds me of him. BK gave him a chance at the beginning of each Spring, but he couldn't "instinct" it. Nothing against these types of guys, they seem to be doomed to be KO-coverage people though.

Filer could jump out of a pool better than any LB on the roster.
 

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Koon in here acting like YouTube don't exist.

If only he could get his vhs copies of the game copied to a digital format
 

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He won't look lost. He'll just look bored, he'll jog to the play if it's not directly at his chest, he'll get swallowed up in blocks, etc. This is all I've ever seen from him.

In the few games that I saw Bilal in, last year, he looked pretty good. Quick, gap shooter, thumper. Pretty much a run-first guy.

I'm not sure what you were watching. Then again, you do have a reputation for being one of the worst dudes on this site, regarding football analysis.
 

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Koon loves to play with hornets nest.

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here you go koon ill even provide you the film. point it out bro!
 
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here you go koon ill even provide you the film. point it out bro!

Thanks for posting.

If anyone wants to watch the game, focus on Bilal when he's in. For your own opinions on it.
 
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So I found the play that Dublin took issue with.

He had responsibility on the QB, who was in a red jersey, so he was broken down waiting for Book to keep it... except Book had given the ball to Dex, who dipped inside of Bilal.

He wasn't "ghosted," he was playing contain responsibility on the QB, but it looked bad because Dex cut back and got loose between Bilal and the line.
 

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Didn't see any loafing or lack of enthusiasm in the first half of that Spring Game, so idk lol. Seemed like he was actually having a really nice afternoon up to halftime ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

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There have been some real head scratching plays from Bilal. I think it's fair to say he has something to prove on the football field. However, I don't think we can say he sucks just yet. Maybe getting more reps will help. It wouldn't be the first time a player benefited from that.

With that said, I don't think Bilal has done nearly enough to warrant an automatic starters role. That's why, I hope we are using this time to really look at all options/combinations at rover and ILB.
 

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There have been some real head scratching plays from Bilal. I think it's fair to say he has something to prove on the football field. However, I don't think we can say he sucks just yet. Maybe getting more reps will help. It wouldn't be the first time a player benefited from that.

With that said, I don't think Bilal has done nearly enough to warrant an automatic starters role. That's why, I hope we are using this time to really look at all options/combinations at rover and ILB.

This I can agree with. Also, analysis like this is why it makes sense that CBK said he would be in against TE sets/Heavy sets. He can thump a bit, and has closed in on the run game well. However, seeing him drop into coverage a lot won't be a thing we'd like to see.
 

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Thanks for posting.

If anyone wants to watch the game, focus on Bilal when he's in. For your own opinions on it.

Insert Iverson "Practice" rant, here.

This I can agree with. Also, analysis like this is why it makes sense that CBK said he would be in against TE sets/Heavy sets. He can thump a bit, and has closed in on the run game well. However, seeing him drop into coverage a lot won't be a thing we'd like to see.

This guy analyzes. Spot on, brother.
 

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I guess I hadn’t looked at the freshman measurements until now. Pleasantly surprised by the height on the LB’s. Bauer 6’2 3/4, Lamb 6’3 3/4, OO 6’3. Im just condition that guys shows up and are never quite as tall or long as previously listed. Nice to see this for a change.
 

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A couple of notes from a poster at ISD who watched Thursday’s practice. TIFWIW

- Bonner and Tillery were out so MTA and MDT were the starting DT’s.
- Ade looked pretty good out there. Elston seemed pretty high on him. Would be huge if he starts playing at a high level.
- JOK got some run with the ones in place of Bilal at times.
- Studstill started with the ones and had a pretty good day. A couple of pass breakups.
 

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JOK stepping up and Studstill reigniting his development would be huge for depth purposes on a defense that already projects to be pretty good.

If we can just find some above-average play at safety....
 
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JOK stepping up and Studstill reigniting his development would be huge for depth purposes on a defense that already projects to be pretty good.

If we can just find some above-average play at safety....

Honestly we just need average safety play. Like 3 interceptions, 8 passes broken up, and only 2 missed tackles per game between both of them, id take that if it was offered.
 

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With Kelly’s statements about Coney being a natural Mike at the next level then that is probably the reason Jones isn’t a realistic option to start, as he’s playing at Mike behind Coney.
 

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Based on the reports by ISD today (also a bit of my .02 on the reports):

- Sounds like Bilal has really stepped his game up and is really holding things down at Rover.

- MTA is going to be a beast. Hinish looks to be in MUCH better shape than he was last season. Ewell still a work in progress. Physically looks beastly, but his technique needs improvement. Overall, that interior looks to be insanely good and deep.

- Ade is going to play. He's gotta play. Gonna be hard though, because sounds like all the ends are doing extremely well. Jay is looking more consistent than last year and Daelin is really dominating in run defense. Still needs to be more assertive on the pass rush. Okwara's size isn't a hindrance to him at all it would seem. Easily ND's best pass rusher. Kareem, unlike Daelin, IS quite assertive in rushing the passer and solid run defender.

- Wimbush's accuracy appears to have improved in the short game, but not quite there yet. Book is more accurate, but is slow on getting rid of the ball.

- Aaron Banks. NEEDS to start. Preferably they line him up at RT and move Kraemer inside to LG next to Hainsey. Kraemer would likely benefit from the move, because he's struggling a bit to set the edge. Got blown by a few times by faster ends. But yeah, Banks is a monster. Able to handle speed and power with great effectiveness. Bars and Mustipher have really taken the mantle from McGlinchey and Nelson as leaders on offense and it seems like the transition has been near seamless. Bars looks vastly improved both physically and technically. We tend to forget, but he has a high ceiling, just needed to get his footing after being hurt and needed some time to learn his position (he was a tackle prior to starting at RG last year). Ruhland is doing more than holding his own. Lacks size, but makes up for it with tenacity, power and technical precision. This group may not have a Q-Nelson talent, but these guys are still really damn good.

- Safety is anyone's guess. It was Gilman and JGH starting, both looked decent out there. Heath has trimmed down and looks much faster. Coleman also got in there and was solid.

- Love had an up and down day, but it's Love so we know what we have with him. Watkins is vying to get his starting gig back. Had the best day of all the corners. Griffith is just game-ready. He made some freshmen mistakes, but he's got a future here.

- Boykin is establishing himself as the #1, if he hasn't already. It's anyone's guess who starts behind him. Claypool, Finke, Armstrong, Young and McKinley all had their moments, but none have established themselves as for-sure starters. A few too many drops though, Boykin included.
 
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Also, just my opinion, but man...I really really really really really really...REEEAAAALLY want Jon Jones to start. Sounds like he's really stepped up technically and is even teaching some of the young'ns. Also, dude is a lot like Coney, jam packed with bad intentions and just wants to share it with the villagers. Can very easily see him being the 3rd guy inside behind Coney and Tranquill.
 

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Also, just my opinion, but man...I really really really really really really...REEEAAAALLY want Jon Jones to start. Sounds like he's really stepped up technically and is even teaching some of the young'ns. Also, dude is a lot like Coney, jam packed with bad intentions and just wants to share it with the villagers. Can very easily see him being the 3rd guy inside behind Coney and Tranquill.

Good. Because even if he doesn't start, he'll play. And be ready to go the year after when they're both gone.
 

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i could see Banks in the starting five with Hainsey, Mustipher, Bars, and Big Tommy (he was impressing Harry last Spring). Whether Tommy is the "Q" or Banks is, we'd "be Beast" either way. Maybe the new OLine coach would do-a-Harry and rotate some linemen alternate series like Kraemer/Hainsey last season --- those guys were smart enough that it didn't seem to hurt, and if Eichenberg was the rotator that might keep him hungry.

Next season Bars and Mustipher go pro, so who takes their spots? Eichenberg? Lugg? Who wants to play center? Second team back-up positions are also, therefore, interesting this year. Ruhland seems positioning himself wisely, but that would leave Eichenberg or Lugg on the bench two more years (unless some alternating goes on.) Interesting season in the OLine --- and, unless we lose someone out of that at-least two-years-eligible group, it looks like we'll "be Beast" in 2019 too.
 

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Just to be clear, if Crazy Balki is going to post thoughts from ISD, he should probably do a better job of distinguishing what are his or their thoughts and not leave it so vague. ISD did not say Banks NEEDS to start. Mike Frank said he wondered if he was the answer at one of the tackle spots, based on how good he looked. Those are different things and one is a much stronger declaration than the other.


Also, it was Elliot and Studstill starting Saturday, not Gilman and JGH. Though it sounds like Gilman rotated in later.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Notre Dame’s offensive line looked like this today:<br><br>LT: Liam Eichenberg<br>LG: Tommy Kraemer<br>C: Sam Mustipher<br>RG: Alex Bars<br>RT: Robert Hainsey</p>— Irish Sports Daily (@ISDUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/ISDUpdate/status/979358471299715072?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 29, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kelly says they are giving early enrollee Houston Griffith a look at safety. Likes ball skills.</p>— Irish Sports Daily (@ISDUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/ISDUpdate/status/979359485939605504?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 29, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kelly highlights Khalid Kareem and Ade Ogundeji as young guys standing out on the DL.</p>— Irish Sports Daily (@ISDUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/ISDUpdate/status/979360713910247424?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 29, 2018</a></blockquote>
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One of the analysts noted Eichenberg as the Spring standout on the OL thus far.

Griffith at safety probably maximizes the potential of the defensive backfield in the next two or three years, so I'm glad to see that.

Ade Ogundeji stepping up in a meaningful way would give ND absolutely ridiculous depth on the DL, and its already pretty good as it is. ND doesn't have the same level of talent or the same ceiling as Bama obviously, but part of Bama's success is that they just throw DE after DE at you, and can put 4 DE's on the field on every third down without missing a beat. Let's do that.
 
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