Skunkbear Signal Stealing Scandal

greyhammer90

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I don't think they were cheating unfortunately. I believe the rumor that says that Stallions was on the staff at Michigan doing normal/legal sign stealing stuff, realized post 2020 that he really sucked at it and they were all about to get fired, and then started cheating in 2021.

Unfortunately I think ND just showed up in Ann Arbor with dead legs and a bad attitude. Prister and O'Malley still talk about how bad they knew that night was going to go after seeing the team in warmups.
 

Pops Freshenmeyer

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I don't think they were cheating unfortunately. I believe the rumor that says that Stallions was on the staff at Michigan doing normal/legal sign stealing stuff, realized post 2020 that he really sucked at it and they were all about to get fired, and then started cheating in 2021.

Unfortunately I think ND just showed up in Ann Arbor with dead legs and a bad attitude. Prister and O'Malley still talk about how bad they knew that night was going to go after seeing the team in warmups.
I could see him first doing it for some big games, finding out that it worked (but unable to do it at all in 2020), and then expanding it to all their games in 2021.

That does leave questions about their result against OSU in 2019.
 

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Yep. OSU went on to destroy UM at the end of that season. There has been no indication that weirdo was doing advanced scouting at that point. It wouldn't have been the first time teams knew what super genius BK was doing based on personnel and formation.
I mean, it's possible he was still new at the game and hadn't perfected the system yet. Maybe he couldn't scout OSU ahead of time.
I don't seriously believe he cost us the 2018 game, but it's funny to think he could have contributed.
 

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I think Michigan should be punished, but the way / speed that this all coming out feels heavily heavily orchestrated. Pretty amazing to watch.

Like if OSU wanted to ruin Michigan's dream season, this how they'd do it lol
 

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I think Michigan should be punished, but the way / speed that this all coming out feels heavily heavily orchestrated. Pretty amazing to watch.

Like if OSU wanted to ruin Michigan's dream season, this how they'd do it lol
The leaks are coming from inside the (Big) House!
 

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I would think it's only a matter of time before peeps inside The Big House start chirping out of panic...
 

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I'll take Matt over Jamie who takes 12 minutes to say what he's going to say.

Matt takes 25 seconds to give you the same content as Jamie does over an entire segment.

Matt will also disagree with Mike. Jamie cannot do that.
Man, in the long list of bad takes you’ve had, this one is up there. Every power hour I’ve ever listened to Matt came off as the spoiled, thin skinned kid that thought he was above being there. His opinions were the least thought out and lacked justifiable support.
Jamie brings great football knowledge and actually puts in the time.
 

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Man, in the long list of bad takes you’ve had, this one is up there. Every power hour I’ve ever listened to Matt came off as the spoiled, thin skinned kid that thought he was above being there. His opinions were the least thought out and lacked justifiable support.
Jamie brings great football knowledge and actually puts in the time.
Disagree, I think Matt is often on point and I highly value time, so him getting to the point in 60 seconds vs 60 minutes, I love. Just different strokes for different folks. Jamie is nicer, but I don't care about that, just the insights.

Also - name a single bad take of mine you'd like to revisit publicly. Feel free to pull one, I won't hide.
 

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Yep. OSU went on to destroy UM at the end of that season. There has been no indication that weirdo was doing advanced scouting at that point. It wouldn't have been the first time teams knew what super genius BK was doing based on personnel and formation.
I’m fine with suggesting everything Michigan touched is tainted. And I am fine suggesting Michigan won and beat the brakes off of Notre Dame because they cheated. A lot about sports his perception, so I’m fine giving off that perception and people buying it.
 

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I would think it's only a matter of time before peeps inside The Big House start chirping out of panic...

Loose lips sink ships. They're wise to be tight-lipped. The Big Ten and the NCAA are hesitant to make a move on its "beloved Michigan...:rolleyes:". If this were Illinois, New Mexico State, South Carolina, West Virginia, or some other equivalent, their football program would have been shut down by now.
 

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Loose lips sink ships. They're wise to be tight-lipped. The Big Ten and the NCAA are hesitant to make a move on its "beloved Michigan...:rolleyes:". If this were Illinois, New Mexico State, South Carolina, West Virginia, or some other equivalent, their football program would have been shut down by now.
The issue is now the Big 10 commissioner's ass in on the line too now. He won't have a choice.
 

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Do you guys see it? Edit, I see it. This "evidence" won't hold up IMO. There's something there but nothing the NCAA can use as "proof", it's just another example that something is going on.
Nope. I watched it a couple of times and I also don't see "run right."
 

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Do you guys see it? Edit, I see it. This "evidence" won't hold up IMO. There's something there but nothing the NCAA can use as "proof", it's just another example that something is going on.
That's Minter, and he looks to be saying "Blitzer" not "patience." I also don't see Stalions saying "run," it looks to me like he's saying "it's going right" or maybe "twin right" -- signed, a partially deaf guy who has to read lips in most contexts.
 

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This is awful


Man when it rains, it pours. Apparently this guy has cerebral palsy - what a fucked up / sad story.

Article from 2020 mentioning him:
2009 Alumnus Talks Sports

"Alex Yood is a sophomore at the University of Michigan and talked with Nolan about realizing his dream of being a football coach. “We talked about how Miami Dolphins coach Brian Flores helped him while he was in high school, how is helping at the University of Michigan, and being able to do all of this with cerebral palsy.”
 

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Man, in the long list of bad takes you’ve had, this one is up there. Every power hour I’ve ever listened to Matt came off as the spoiled, thin skinned kid that thought he was above being there. His opinions were the least thought out and lacked justifiable support.
Jamie brings great football knowledge and actually puts in the time.
Nailed it
 

forkbeard3777

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The issue is now the Big 10 commissioner's ass in on the line too now. He won't have a choice.
Gotta make an example out of them. The NCAA is too slow to act and will not get anything done. Surely the Big Ten does, and vacating wins and bowls games is insufficient.

That said, has a conference call with all of the coaches and the commissioner, in unison, for 90 minutes and over the subject of one's cheating, ever happened before?

This is no accident. This is too the extreme and egregious, and a blatant attempt to obtain an advantage.
 
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