Silly Season 2015/2016 (Coaching Changes)

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Was Polian actually a good ST coach or would he just be a better recruiting version of Booker?
 

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Was Polian actually a good ST coach or would he just be a better recruiting version of Booker?

Honestly, I remember people thinking he was a better recruiter than coach. Special teams then weren't great, though not the train wreck they are now.
 

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LSU: Sources tell FootballScoop LSU has moved quickly to lock up Dave Aranda, offering an enhanced contract. LSU believes Aranda will execute the new contract shortly.

Way to sleep on it BK! Of course, BK will hire one of his old pals from his glory days like always.
 

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Way to sleep on it BK! Of course, BK will hire one of his old pals from his glory days like always.

Dave Aranda was never coming here. Why would he leave LSU for here? We weren't going to pay him 1.5 million. Also he was Hermans roommate in college. No way he was going anywhere but LSU or Texas
 

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Not trying to be a tough crowd, just being honest. That list of players had a handful of good guys, but the majority sucked.

Do you think he got in his car and picked out random people to recruit? The final word on who gets recruited was never his decision, he's just the recruiter.

There were more than a "handful of good guys" and the majority didn't suck.
 

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Not trying to be a tough crowd, just being honest. That list of players had a handful of good guys, but the majority sucked.



I disagree. The majority of those players were big time recruits, 4 and 5 star guys. Just because Anthony McDonald didn't do anything in college doesn't mean he sucked as a recruit. McDonald was a 4 star top 150 player.

I mean all the TE's he recruited were 4 or 5 stars and all ended up in the NFL. Rutland, Yeatman, Joseph D, Rudolph.

I just don't understand how you can make that statement.


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Do you think he got in his car and picked out random people to recruit? The final word on who gets recruited was never his decision, he's just the recruiter.

There were more than a "handful of good guys" and the majority didn't suck.

The 24 wins and 25 losses between '07 and '10 seem to agree with me.
 

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Silly Season 2015/2016 (Coaching Changes)

The 24 wins and 25 losses between '07 and '10 seem to agree with me.



Jeeeeez. What does that have anything to do with what these kids were rated coming out of high school?

Just because some of them did not pan out in college doesn't mean they were not big time recruits that Polian did a great job getting.

Your logic is flawed.


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I disagree. The majority of those players were big time recruits, 4 and 5 star guys. Just because Anthony McDonald didn't do anything in college doesn't mean he sucked as a recruit. McDonald was a 4 star top 150 player.

I mean all the TE's he recruited were 4 or 5 stars and all ended up in the NFL. Rutland, Yeatman, Joseph D, Rudolph.


I just don't understand how you can make that statement.


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Because outside of Jimmy Pickles, Wood, Rudolph and Allen...I barely remember those other guys rocking a gold helmet.
 

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Because outside of Jimmy Pickles, Wood, Rudolph and Allen...I barely remember those other guys rocking a gold helmet.



Did you know the Yeatman got suspended so he decided to transfer?

Did you know Joseph F got suspended for a whole season for streaking and decided to transfer? That's why you don't remember them playing for Notre Dame.


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Jeeeeez. What does that have anything to do with what these kids were rated coming out of high school?

Just because some of them did not pan out in college doesn't mean they were not big time recruits that Polian did a great job getting.

Your logic is flawed.


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I understand what your saying, and I'm not trying to be combative. I'm sure he was given a list and did a damn good job bringing the major players on that list in. All I'm saying is most of them dudes sucked...thats pretty much a fact, ask anyone outside of the ND family and they'd agree or at least say...who???
 

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I'm very familiar with Yeatman and his Lacrosse at Maryland...if my memory serves me right.
 

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I understand what your saying, and I'm not trying to be combative. I'm sure he was given a list and did a damn good job bringing the major players on that list in. All I'm saying is most of them dudes sucked...thats pretty much a fact, ask anyone outside of the ND family and they'd agree or at least say...who???



Your point was he was not a good recruiter. But he clearly was. Go lookup the rankings for the players listed.

Forgot to mention in previous post. Did you know that Konrad Ruland transferred to Stanford because he was behind Rudolph and Eifert? Did you also know he was a top150 player and made it to the NFL?

Taylor Dever was drafted and played a bit in the NFL also.


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Your point was he was not a good recruiter. But he clearly was. Go lookup the rankings for the players listed.

Forgot to mention in previous post. Did you know that Konrad Ruland transferred to Stanford because he was behind Rudolph and Eifert? Did you also know he was a top150 player and made it to the NFL?

Taylor Dever was drafted and played a bit in the NFL also.


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Haha...ya man, I know all that. I'm pretty hip on my ND football. I also know the majority of the players that were named on the list above sucked. If we are talking about what people have done on that list after ND....they all sucked. I'm including Rudolph because he burned me a few weeks in fantasy football.
 

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Haha...ya man, I know all that. I'm pretty hip on my ND football. I also know the majority of the players that were named on the list above sucked. If we are talking about what people have done on that list after ND....they all sucked. I'm including Rudolph because he burned me a few weeks in fantasy football.



You are just a sour puss...lol


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Bottom line is I've always like Pollan, comes from a great football family. I'd love to see him back at ND, and its really up to the coaches to develop the players that are brought in.
 

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The 24 wins and 25 losses between '07 and '10 seem to agree with me.

This year's team has the 6th highest avg comp rating in the country and went 4-8. So what does wins and losses have to do with a players rating/ranking?

How does your opinion of a HS player's value vs his industry ranking and/or his later development/performance lessen the work done by Brian Polian to land five top rated by position players, along with a other 4 star talent, much of it out west in the backyard of USC?
 

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Who are the 5 top rated by position players? Not being a smart a$$, I can't remember.
 

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Who are the 5 top rated by position players? Not being a smart a$$, I can't remember.

I believe top 5 were:
Reuland
Allen
Clausen
Crist
Rudolph
Manti

Top 10:
Fauria
Turk
Wood
Tausch

I wonder how this stacks up with a guy like Booker.
 

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Watched the Herman presser on Longhorn Network yesterday, looks like UT got a good one. Understands UT, the fanbase, alums, importance of high school football. Predicts championships. Coming at a perfect time...young team with tons of talent, in- state teams in disarray(TAMU, BU, TCU, TTU). Watch and see if he doesn't move quick to seal the borders and control in-state recruiting like Mack Brown did.
Last three coaches at UH...Briles, Sumlin, Herman.
 

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LSU: Sources tell FootballScoop LSU has moved quickly to lock up Dave Aranda, offering an enhanced contract. LSU believes Aranda will execute the new contract shortly.

Well... according to dwshade and a bevy of reporters, there would have been no need to lock Aranda up. It would have been "dense" on Ed O to let Aranda walk away IMO... but what do I know?
 

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Watched the Herman presser on Longhorn Network yesterday, looks like UT got a good one. Understands UT, the fanbase, alums, importance of high school football. Predicts championships. Coming at a perfect time...young team with tons of talent, in- state teams in disarray(TAMU, BU, TCU, TTU). Watch and see if he doesn't move quick to seal the borders and control in-state recruiting like Mack Brown did.
Last three coaches at UH...Briles, Sumlin, Herman.

He was kissing the a$$ of all high school coaches in the state.
 

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Watched the Herman presser on Longhorn Network yesterday, looks like UT got a good one. Understands UT, the fanbase, alums, importance of high school football. Predicts championships. Coming at a perfect time...young team with tons of talent, in- state teams in disarray(TAMU, BU, TCU, TTU). Watch and see if he doesn't move quick to seal the borders and control in-state recruiting like Mack Brown did.

Last three coaches at UH...Briles, Sumlin, Herman.



Yep. The UT team next year will be full of talented seniors, juniors and sophomores that Strong brought in. You know Herman is going to finish up this class strong and be in the top 10, possibly top 5.

My prediction UT probably wins the conference and at worst finishes 10-2.


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Clay Travis interviewed Bruce Feldman on Fox Sports this morning. Feldman reported that Ed Orgeron is courting Kiffen for OC. He said the chances of Kiffen leaving Bama are about 75%.

Also said BK will be back at ND next year. Doesn't see Jack making a change.
 
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