Pops Freshenmeyer
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It's also possible that ND is skittish of news headlines that NCAA outlaws thing ND just did two weeks ago.
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It's also possible that ND is skittish of news headlines that NCAA outlaws thing ND just did two weeks ago.
Yes, the key is the word current AFTER the recommended Proposed Rule is presented to the members, not the coaches, for a vote AND passed. That should be sometime in the Spring which will be AFTER the 2017 Signing Day.
It would apply to subsequent recruiting classes, such as 2018, 2019, etc. and as presented in the article applies to a coach being hired by school A at the same time one of his players, a recruit, also signs an LOI with school A.
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Being circulated on multiple boards doesn't make it correct. Nor does you repeating it here make it true.
It's a circular rumor.
Argumentum ad populum
IrishFanForever23
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I don't think I said it being circulated on multiple boards makes it correct, did I? I believe I even said I'm sure we'll find out if it's true soon enough.
Thanks though, try again.
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You believe this to be legless because:
A) You've spoken to a source at the NCAA
B) You've spoken to a source "in the know".
C) You have nothing to base your opinion on.
You wrote:
"however" - To introduce a statement that contrasts with or seems to contradict something that has been said previously.
I agreed the rule "doesn't make sense" for the reasons stated in my other post regarding the NCAA rule making process AND timeframe. The process and timeframe for the promulgation of NCAA football rules has been discussed many times here over the years. It not new. It's available to anyone that takes the time to read it.
It doesn't matter how many boards report speculation to the contrary. There was thread posted yesterday with an inaccurate title, New Redshirt Rules. It was a Recommendation not a new rule. Had multiple boards cited that Irish Envy thread title they'd be wrong. However, the OP and connorin's post were valid.
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Alabama hires highly regarded Arizona AD Greg Byrne as Bill Battle steps down - CBSSports.com
Shrewd move by UA looking toward the future.
Shrewd move by UA looking toward the future.
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You're welcome, lol.
What you're doing is painfully transparent. You want to get on record on the opposite side of the rumor to score imaginary internet points if it all works out and they can make the hire afterall. This is literally why I never post rumors publicly... because I have no interest in playing this game with people like you. I mean you obviously did not source something with someone at ND in the 10 minutes since I shared the rumor that was already making the rounds. You just posted to be contrarian, because you find that fun or something.
It certainly has "legs" in the sense that the person who had the news of his hire before anyone knows about the potential issue; the guy on this site that wanted to break the news here said there was an issue; and it's now been publicly discussed on many boards and confirmed by some other site staff to be an issue.
The only question is how much of an issue it is and if they're going to find a way to make the hire. That we will find out in time. I happily await ND figuring their way out of the problem, and then you returning to be all "see, told you guys."
Anyways, as an aside, I really regret saving you from perma-ban back in the day. I voted for leniency and said that you just had a bad rap. Lesson learned, I guess.
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You're welcome, lol.
What you're doing is painfully transparent. You want to get on record on the opposite side of the rumor to score imaginary internet points if it all works out and they can make the hire afterall. This is literally why I never post rumors publicly... because I have no interest in playing this game with people like you. I mean you obviously did not source something with someone at ND in the 10 minutes since I shared the rumor that was already making the rounds. You just posted to be contrarian, because you find that fun or something.
It certainly has "legs" in the sense that the person who had the news of his hire before anyone knows about the potential issue; the guy on this site that wanted to break the news here said there was an issue; and it's now been publicly discussed on many boards and confirmed by some other site staff to be an issue.
The only question is how much of an issue it is and if they're going to find a way to make the hire. That we will find out in time. I happily await ND figuring their way out of the problem, and then you returning to be all "see, told you guys."
Anyways, as an aside, I really regret saving you from perma-ban back in the day. I voted for leniency and said that you just had a bad rap. Lesson learned, I guess.
Reps.........just because Cookie Monster!!
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They are currently in the process of firing their other co-OC (David Reaves) for a DUI. Doesn't look good on their new staff at this point with suspending their SC coach and firing their co-OC in the first month of their employment.
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does the fact that almost all of todd high octane graham's staff being poached for other jobs minus norvell(head coach at nevada) mean their mercenaries?
Auburn Tigers hire Chip Lindsey as offensive coordinator
Auburn Tigers hire Chip Lindsey as offensive coordinator
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Staff should check in with Thomas Graham...
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You reap what you sow
Fool me twice?
Fool me twice?
New Orleans Saints: The Saints have interviewed former Notre Dame defensive coordinator Brian VanGorder for a defensive staff position and plan to do so again tomorrow, per Alex Marvez.
The Scoop - Tuesday January 24, 2017 - FootballScoop
Fool me twice?
New Orleans Saints: The Saints have interviewed former Notre Dame defensive coordinator Brian VanGorder for a defensive staff position and plan to do so again tomorrow, per Alex Marvez.
The Scoop - Tuesday January 24, 2017 - FootballScoop
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They want him to come back in because they're at a deadlock. Half the organization thinks he looks like Uncle Rico and the other half are saying Johnny Drama.
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Didn't know they hire people to hold the defensive play cards.
But, but, ..."BVG's A BEAST!"
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Bogtrotter07
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I will take all the heat. I thought he would be the next coming. Boy was I wrong.
Maybe he will do better back in the pro's. Maybe that is the environment he needs to be in. Maybe Uncle Rico will thrive.
But, Nah! After what I heard happened just last season in South Bend, I can't even wish him success.
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You're welcome, lol.
What you're doing is painfully transparent. You want to get on record on the opposite side of the rumor to score imaginary internet points if it all works out and they can make the hire afterall. This is literally why I never post rumors publicly... because I have no interest in playing this game with people like you. I mean you obviously did not source something with someone at ND in the 10 minutes since I shared the rumor that was already making the rounds. You just posted to be contrarian, because you find that fun or something.
It certainly has "legs" in the sense that the person who had the news of his hire before anyone knows about the potential issue; the guy on this site that wanted to break the news here said there was an issue; and it's now been publicly discussed on many boards and confirmed by some other site staff to be an issue.
The only question is how much of an issue it is and if they're going to find a way to make the hire. That we will find out in time. I happily await ND figuring their way out of the problem, and then you returning to be all "see, told you guys."
Anyways, as an aside, I really regret saving you from perma-ban back in the day. I voted for leniency and said that you just had a bad rap. Lesson learned, I guess.
Damn it, Lax! The bolded is neg worthy.
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Holy Cow, Lax's cookie monster gif...
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Care to share in a PM?
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Ditto
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Go on.....
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They want him to come back in because they're at a deadlock. Half the organization thinks he looks like Uncle Rico and the other half are saying Johnny Drama.
Then they're all idiots!
Everyone knows that Johnny Drama has way better hair and rocks the goatee in a way BVG never did.
He's clearly Uncle Rico.
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I can't have an opinion till I see BVG's calves.
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Fair.
Head to Joshua Tree and contemplate the matter if you still need to do some soul-searching.
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I think I posted most of this before.
BVG :
1) Really couldn't get along with most people except Joe Schmidt.
2) Really didn't click with Jaylon Smith, which not only isn't a good thing, but I think actually was one of the big, unseen negative affects on those defenses.
3) His ability to not get along with his defensive assistants was a key reason for over a season, defensive position meetings were cancelled, and the whole defense met as one group.
4) Was totally unfair (my subjectivity) with his treatment of Todd Lyght, where Todd showed absolute class, restraint and decorum, for his part, even though he made rookie mistakes as a coach.
5) BVG and Keith Gilmore's relationship would have resulted in record crowds had it be displayed where more appropriate, in the Bengal Bouts. One or two recorded incidents should never have been allowed to happen in front of recruits.
6) The ongoing dominance and authoritarian attitudes expressed had a lot of negative impact with the team, (my interpretation of facts, granted, but it didn't take much guesswork.)
7) Blowing off recruiting for other more cerebral aspects of coaching.
The list could go on. Stating it this way makes a lot of it seem actually more severe than it was. But together it all comprised somethings that should never have happened. Nobody likes that authoritarian environment, and it shows. What also shows is that changes took too long to make, and probably were a key factor in the overall poor season. It was bad enough that it affected everyone. Remember everyone liked Montgomery, so the whole situation was a cluster-fuck.
BVG :
1) Really couldn't get along with most people except Joe Schmidt.
2) Really didn't click with Jaylon Smith, which not only isn't a good thing, but I think actually was one of the big, unseen negative affects on those defenses.
3) His ability to not get along with his defensive assistants was a key reason for over a season, defensive position meetings were cancelled, and the whole defense met as one group.
4) Was totally unfair (my subjectivity) with his treatment of Todd Lyght, where Todd showed absolute class, restraint and decorum, for his part, even though he made rookie mistakes as a coach.
5) BVG and Keith Gilmore's relationship would have resulted in record crowds had it be displayed where more appropriate, in the Bengal Bouts. One or two recorded incidents should never have been allowed to happen in front of recruits.
6) The ongoing dominance and authoritarian attitudes expressed had a lot of negative impact with the team, (my interpretation of facts, granted, but it didn't take much guesswork.)
7) Blowing off recruiting for other more cerebral aspects of coaching.
The list could go on. Stating it this way makes a lot of it seem actually more severe than it was. But together it all comprised somethings that should never have happened. Nobody likes that authoritarian environment, and it shows. What also shows is that changes took too long to make, and probably were a key factor in the overall poor season. It was bad enough that it affected everyone. Remember everyone liked Montgomery, so the whole situation was a cluster-fuck.
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