Roster Projections

[Brooklyn]

2015 Open Spots – 5
(85 - (Roster))

Roster – 80

Quarterbacks - 3
Malik Zaire (Rso)
DeShone Kizer (So)
Brandon Wimbush (Fr)

Runningbacks - 4
Tarean Folston (Jr)
Greg Bryant (Rso)
Josh Adams (Fr)
Dexter Williams (Fr)

Slot - 3
C.J. Prosise (Rjr)
Torii Hunter Jr. (Rso)
C.J. Sanders (Fr)

Wide Receivers - 8
Chris Brown (Sr)
Corey Robinson (Jr)
Will Fuller (Jr)
Justin Brent (So)
Corey Holmes (So)
Equanimeous St. Brown (Fr)
Miles Boykin (Fr)
Jaylen Guyton (Fr)

Tight Ends - 5
Durham Smythe (Rso)
Mike Heuerman (Rso)
Nic Weishar (So)
Tyler Luatua (So)
Aliz'e Jones (Fr)

Offensive Line - 13
Ronnie Stanley (Rjr)
Mark Harrell (Rjr)
Steve Elmer (Jr)
Colin McGovern (Rso)
Mike McGlinchey (Rso)
Hunter Bivin (Rso)
John Montelus (Rso)
Alex Bars (So)
Quentin Nelson (So)
Jimmy Byrne (So)
Sam Mustipher (So)
Trevor Ruhland (Fr)
Tristen Hoge (Fr)

Interior Defensive Line – 9
Sheldon Day (Sr)
Jarron Jones (Rjr)
Jay Hayes (So)
Pete Mokwuah (So)
Daniel Cage (So)
Micah Dew-Treadway (Fr)
Brandon Tiassum (Fr)
Jerry Tillery (Fr)
Elijah Taylor (Fr)

Defensive Ends - 8
Romeo Okwara (Sr)
Isaac Rochell (Jr)
Jacob Matuska (Rso)
Andrew Trumbetti (So)
Jonathan Bonner (So)
Grant Blankenship (So)
Jhonathon Williams (So)
Bo Wallace (Fr)

Linebacker – 11
John Turner (Rjr)
Jaylon Smith (Jr)
James Onuwalu (Jr)
Michael Deeb (Rso)
Doug Randolph (Rso)
Nyles Morgan (So)
Greer Martini (So)
Kolin Hill (So)
Josh Barajas (Fr)
Asmar Bilal (Fr)
Te'Von Coney (Fr)

Cornerbacks - 7
KeiVarae Russell (RJr)
Cole Luke (Jr)
Devin Butler (Jr)
Nick Watkins (So)
Nick Coleman (Fr)
Ashton White (Fr)
Shaun Crawford (Fr)

Safeties – 6
Elijah Shumate (Sr)
Nicky Baratti (Rjr)
Max Redfield (Jr)
Drue Tranquill (So)
Nicco Fertitta (Fr)
Mykelti Williams (Fr)

Special Teams - 3
Scott Daly (Rjr) - LS
Tyler Newsome (So) - P
Justin Yoon (Fr)

Eligible For Another Year - 13
QB - Everett Golson
QB - Montgomery VanGorder (So) - BK said walk on scholarships are year to year
Slot WR - Amir Carlisle
C/G - Nick Martin
G/C - Matthew Hegarty
DT - Chase Hounshell
DE - Ishaq Williams
DE - Anthony Rabasa
LB - Jarrett Grace
LB - Joe Schmidt
LB - Ben Councell
CB - Jalen Brown
CB/S - Matthias Farley

4-3

 

[CanadalovesND]

Too soon to be precise, but we're gonna have at least 10 5th year seniors assuming Golson and Daniels (assuming he gets readmitted) stay instead of going pro.

 

[Luckylucci]

NVM

 

[Brooklyn]

Too soon to be precise, but we're gonna have at least 10 5th year seniors assuming Golson and Daniels (assuming he gets readmitted) stay instead of going pro.

I agree. Looks like a lot of guys that I would love for us to bring back at this point.

 

[BostonND]

It looks like we only lose three guys on the offensive side of the ball after next year: McDaniel, Koyack and Lombard. We already have three offensive commits. That's ridiculous.

We should (hopefully) be entering the 2015 season bringing back 10 starters on offense, with plenty of amazing linemen who could easily fill Lombard's spot.

 

[irishfanjho15]

Golson, Daniels, and Martin (maybe Grace) are the only guys I see coming back in '15.

 

[Brooklyn]

Projected Needs with 5th year guys in parentheses, commits in stars after that:

QB - 2 (Everett Golson) *Blake Barnett*
HB - 2 (Amir Carlisle)
WR - 2 (Davaris Daniels)
TE - 1
OL - 4 (Nick Martin, Matthew Hegarty, Conor Hanratty) *Jerry Tillery, Tristen Hoge*
DE - 2 (Anthony Rabasa)
DT - 2 (Tony Springmann, Chase Hounshell)
LB - 4 (Jarrett Grace, Ben Councell , Joe Schmidt)
CB - 3 (Jalen Brown)
S - 3 (Eilar Hardy, Matthias Farley)
K - 1

 

[Brooklyn]

Golson, Daniels, and Martin (maybe Grace) are the only guys I see coming back in '15.

I'd take a whole lot more than that. Everett Golson, Amir Carlisle, Davaris Daniels, Nick Martin, Matthew Hegarty, Conor Hanratty, Tony Springmann, Chase Hounshell, Jarrett Grace, Ben Councell, Eilar Hardy, Matthias Farley are guys I'd consider depending on what we do on recruiting.

 

[irishfanjho15]

I'd take a whole lot more than that. Everett Golson, Amir Carlisle, Davaris Daniels, Nick Martin, Matthew Hegarty, Conor Hanratty, Tony Springmann, Chase Hounshell, Jarrett Grace, Ben Councell, Eilar Hardy, Matthias Farley are guys I'd consider depending on what we do on recruiting.

I just don't see it. Farley, Hardy, Hanratty, Carlise, and Hegarty are all highly doubtful to come back. Especially with the quality young players at those positions.

I could see a situation (depth worries) where Springmann, Hounshell, and Councell get asked back to go with Golson, Daniels, Grace, and Martin, but the other guys are all long shots IMHO.

I'd be surprised if we take more than six 5th years.

 

[Brooklyn]

I just don't see it. Farley, Hardy, Hanratty, Carlise, and Hegarty are all highly doubtful to come back. Especially with the quality young players at those positions.

I could see a situation (depth worries) where Springmann, Hounshell, and Councell get asked back to go with Golson, Daniels, Grace, and Martin, but the other guys are all long shots IMHO.

Possibly they wouldnt want to come back. Actually thats a good point. They may look for playing time elsewhere. But if they want back, I'd want more than that back.

 

[Irishman77]

Way too
Early, but Carlisle will definitely have a spot if he wants it. Cam will be gone. Mahone is the wild card, but you v
Can't roll with 2 and an unknown at rb

 

[gkIrish]

<10% chance Daniels will come back for a 5th year IMO.

 

[Irishman77]

<10% chance Daniels will come back for a 5th year IMO.

I agree. Hopefully he puts it together and has a monster year. Will be exciting to see the younger guys take over.

 

[NewEnglandGuy]

Similar to the "way too early" rankings produced by publications such as ESPN, speculating the composition of the 2015 roster is a subjective matter depending on a multitude of variables that include, but are not limited to, player development, injuries, level of on field success, and decisions made by unpredictable 17 year old kids.

A recent example of future rosters stochastic volatility would be the inclusion of Luke Massa for the upcoming season.

Categorizing the possible 5th year players can be used as a theoretical starting point:

Most Likely to Return
-Everett Golson
-Nick Martin
-Tony Springmann
-Jarrett Grace

TBD
-Amir Carlisle
-Davaris Daniels
-Matthew Hegarty
-Conor Hanratty
-Chase Hounshell
-Ben Councell
-Eilar Hardy
-Matthias Farley

Likely Moving On
-Anthony Rabasa
-Joe Schmidt
-Jalen Brown

As noted by Brooklyn, with a roster of 59 returning, the additions of 4 to 8 5th year players could result in the next recruiting class be between 22-18. This number will likely be in constant motion from now until signing day.

One interpretation for a small class: QB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, OL, OL, OL (9 on offense) DE, DE, DT, LB, LB, CB, CB, S, S (9 on defense).

Possible variations:
-Tyler Newsome is used only as a punter, and we recruit a place kicker.
-Defections occur and a position of strength becomes one requiring additional numbers for depth instead.
-Blue chip athletes decisions. Talent usually talks and accomodations will be made.
-Less 5th year players are taken and the 2015 class is 19 or 20 (and in that case we aim to take 4 on the DL).

 

[Cackalacky]

Currently, I was hoping Mahone would land somewhere to get on the field. I know he was hurt last year but I had high hopes for him coming in.

 

[irishfanjho15]

<10% chance Daniels will come back for a 5th year IMO.

I was remarking on who I thought would be asked back, not who will accept or not.

 

[Kaneyoufeelit]

I just don't see it. Farley, Hardy, Hanratty, Carlise, and Hegarty are all highly doubtful to come back. Especially with the quality young players at those positions.

I could see a situation (depth worries) where Springmann, Hounshell, and Councell get asked back to go with Golson, Daniels, Grace, and Martin, but the other guys are all long shots IMHO.

I'd be surprised if we take more than six 5th years.

Highly doubtful? One of Farley/Hardy will almost certainly be asked back. We will need at least one, if not both, for depth if nothing else. Hanratty could very well be a starter this year, he will be back. I find it hard to believe Hegarty or Carlisle aren't asked back. Veteran OL depth is crucial and we would only have Mahone, Folston, and Bryant as returning RBs without Carlisle.

I basically just don't agree at all with your assessment, especially of Hanratty and the safety position.

 

[wizards8507]

Highly doubtful? One of Farley/Hardy will almost certainly be asked back. We will need at least one, if not both, for depth if nothing else. Hanratty could very well be a starter this year, he will be back. I find it hard to believe Hegarty or Carlisle aren't asked back. Veteran OL depth is crucial and we would only have Mahone, Folston, and Bryant as returning RBs without Carlisle.

I basically just don't agree at all with your assessment, especially of Hanratty and the safety position.

Would you come back if you knew it would be "for depth if nothing else"? I don't think I would.

 

[STLDomer]

Would you come back if you knew it would be "for depth if nothing else"? I don't think I would.

Get a chance to play for the University of Notre Dame for another year?? Yeah I would. It's not like they would be scout team players they would still see the field a good amount

 

[Kaneyoufeelit]

Would you come back if you knew it would be "for depth if nothing else"? I don't think I would.

If my alternative is "the real world" or trying to make a practice squad, you bet your ass I would. Look at who will be asked back this year. Utupo, Massa, and Heggie? will be depth players or special teamers. You're acting like being a depth guy at Notre Dame is a bad thing. You get one more year of football and anything can happen. Plus you get to put off being an adult for another year. Stay as long as you can. Cherish it!

 

[wizards8507]

If my alternative is "the real world" or trying to make a practice squad, you bet your ass I would. Look at who will be asked back this year. Utupo, Massa, and Heggie? will be depth players or special teamers. You're acting like being a depth guy at Notre Dame is a bad thing. You get one more year of football and anything can happen. Plus you get to put off being an adult for another year. Stay as long as you can. Cherish it!

*Shrug.* I was ready to graduate after four years. Bigger and better things. I got married that summer.

 

[CanadalovesND]

If my alternative is "the real world" or trying to make a practice squad, you bet your ass I would. Look at who will be asked back this year. Utupo, Massa, and Heggie? will be depth players or special teamers. You're acting like being a depth guy at Notre Dame is a bad thing. You get one more year of football and anything can happen. Plus you get to put off being an adult for another year. Stay as long as you can. Cherish it!

Our beloved Heggie left us for Ball State...

 

[Kaneyoufeelit]

2015 Scholarship/Roster Breakdown

2015 Scholarship/Roster Breakdown

How did I miss this news?!

Best of luck

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[IrishFaninTX]

Open Spots – 23
(85 - (Roster + Commits))

Roster – 59

Quarterbacks - 2
Malik Zaire (Rso)
DeShone Kizer (So)

Runningbacks - 3
William Mahone (Rjr)
Tarean Folston (Jr)
Greg Bryant (Rso)

Wide Receivers - 8
Chris Brown (Sr)
C.J. Prosise (Rjr)
Corey Robinson (Jr)
Will Fuller (Jr)
Torii Hunter Jr. (Rso)
James Onuwalu (Jr)
Justin Brent (So)
Corey Holmes (So)

Tight Ends - 4
Durham Smythe (Rso)
Mike Heuerman (Rso)
Nic Weishar (So)
Tyler Luatua (So)

Offensive Line - 11
Ronnie Stanley (Rjr)
Mark Harrell (Rjr)
Steve Elmer (Jr)
Colin McGovern (Rso)
Mike McGlinchey (Rso)
Hunter Bivin (Rso)
John Montelus (Rso)
Alex Bars (So)
Quentin Nelson (So)
Jimmy Byrne (So)
Sam Mustipher (So)

Interior Defensive Line – 5
Sheldon Day (Sr)
Jarron Jones (Rjr)
Jay Hayes (So)
Pete Mokwuah (So)
Daniel Cage (So)

Defensive Ends - 7
Romeo Okwara (Sr)
Isaac Rochell (Jr)
Jacob Matuska (Rso)
Andrew Trumbetti (So)
Jonathan Bonner (So)
Grant Blankenship (So)
Jhonathon Williams (So)

Weakside Linebacker – 2
Jaylon Smith (Jr)
Nile Sykes (So)

Middle Linebacker – 2
Michael Deeb (Rso)
Nyles Morgan (So)

SLB Linebacker - 3
Doug Randolph (Rso)
Greer Martini (So)
Kolin Hill (So)

Cornerbacks - 5
KeiVarae Russell (Sr)
Cole Luke (Jr)
Devin Butler (Jr)
Rashad Kinlaw (Rso)
Nick Watkins (So)

Safeties – 5
Elijah Shumate (Sr)
Nicky Baratti (Rjr)
John Turner (Rjr)
Max Redfield (Jr)
Drue Tranquill (So)

Special Teams - 2
Scott Daly (Rjr) - LS
Tyler Newsome (So) - K/P

Commits - 3
QB - Blake Barnett
OT - Jerry Tillery
C - Tristen Hoge

5th Year Eligible - 15
QB - Everett Golson
HB - Amir Carlisle
WR - Davaris Daniels
C - Nick Martin
OL - Matthew Hegarty
OL - Conor Hanratty
UT - Chase Hounshell
NG - Tony Springmann
RE - Anthony Rabasa
MLB - Jarrett Grace
WLB - Joe Schmidt
SLB - Ben Councell
CB - Jalen Brown
S - Eilar Hardy
S - Matthias Farley


4-3

3-4

Definite guys that will be asked back: Golson, Daniels, Grace, Martin, and Springman. I think Councell, Farley, and Hegarty or Hanratty have a shot.

 

[stlnd01]

Definite guys that will be asked back: Golson, Daniels, Grace, Martin, and Springman. I think Councell, Farley, and Hegarty or Hanratty have a shot.

That sounds about right, except I'd say all four in the "have a shot" category are more likely to be asked back than not. Farley's a two-year (or more, depending on 2014) starter. Councell, if he comes back strong from his injury, is a valuable backup to Jaylon. Hegarty and Hanratty are experienced O Linemen. None may start, but if they're willing to be #2 on the depth chart I'd think we take them. Carlisle, too.
I agree Daniels is probably off to play on Sundays, though, especially if he has a good year.

 

[NDWorld247]

I've given the 2015 class numbers some thought and this is where I'm at...

1. I'm okay with the 2015 class being a relatively "small" one (16 - 21). We will be bringing back a lot of 5th year leadership, and all of the talent we've brought in with the IrishMob and GoldenArmy will be all over the two-deep. 2015 is our year to compete for a National Championship, leading to what is hopefully a stacked 2016 class, our 4th "stacked" class in a row if 2015 pans out as I expect.

2. IMO, we will bring back at most 10 fifth years, but more likely in the 7-8 range when all is said and done. I think Daniels is gone as he will play himself into a top 3 rounds type of NFL prospect after the 2014 season, and I'm perfectly fine with that given the youth at WR. Golson is essentially a lock to return. As is Nick Martin. The other twelve players will fall into one of four categories: NFL (doesn't look likely for many), asked to return and does (5-8 guys to go along with Golson and Martin), asked to return but decides to go start for another team (3-4) or not asked to return (1-2 guys).

3. If we bring back 10 fifth years, and we enter NSD with 59 players returning (not likely given attrition), that leaves 16 spots. We've entered the past two seasons with 17+ commits so I expect our class to be close to completion by the start of the 2014 season. Hopefully that means a tight-knit group of recruits and some late highly ranked commits ala the #IrishMob13.

4. By NSD 2015, the 2015 class will likely end up closer to 21 than 16 due to transfers, medical redshirts, less than ten 5th years brought back, etc. Therefore, months of "this is going to be a small class" talk will be for naught. It probably won't reach the 24 and 23 we signed in '13 and '14, respectively, and it won't compare with the 28-35 all of the SEC schools will sign, but we'll continue adding quality depth throughout our roster with a number of studs (we already have 3 committed) and a few carefully mined diamonds as we do every year.

5. It will be really interesting to see what areas of the country we have success / focus our attention in 2015. Of the current top 100 recruits (24/7 sports), only 40 come from outside of SEC country. Of those 40, most are from states we've had challenges in (CA), states bordering SEC country (VA, NC) or states with strong in-state programs (OH).

 

[NDhoosier]

I am thinking and hoping for about 17 commits, but it will be a very high "star average." Meaning ND gets a smaller class, but it is very high quality. I would not be upset at all if we got only 17 commits, if they are the right 17 commits. We are off to a good start.

 

[bigedefense]

*Shrug.* I was ready to graduate after four years. Bigger and better things. I got married that summer.

I was similar. It only took me 7 years.

Tommy: Lots of folks go to college for 7 years Richard!

Richard: Yeah,they call 'em Dr.

 

[Brooklyn]

Updated with the position switches.

 

[Brooklyn]

And this years roster: