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They are quite literally making a business decision. They see the way the winds are going and it does not make sense for them to continue to sell that merch. Isn't the trope that liberals are a bunch of sissy's because they want these types of changes, but people claiming they wont watch the NFL because of a name charge are the true fans/tough guys?

First off i never mentioned liberals. Second off they aren't aren't removing the Indians, braves, or Seminoles. Their items are made mostly in China and i am pretty sure they have the kids working in the factories again. I guess that's not an issue since they are made here in the USA?

And forced labor?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...e-nikes-might-be-made-forced-labor-heres-why/

You know you are allowed to have a different opinion and not throw a fit till you get your way. Example the Tampa Bay Rays it was the Devil rays and people didn't like that. Who cares that people don't like it tell them not to watch.

The generation we are in if someone doesn't get their way they get offended and throw a fit about it.
 

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Chiefs
Braves
Blackhawks
Indians
(Edmonton) Eskimos
Giants
Royals
Cowboys
White Sox
Pirates
Devils
Wizards

That’s off the top of my head so I’m sure I’m leaving some out, but all those names have to go based on today’s cancel culture.

Dude... italics!
 

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First off i never mentioned liberals. Second off they aren't aren't removing the Indians, braves, or Seminoles. Their items are made mostly in China and i am pretty sure they have the kids working in the factories again. I guess that's not an issue since they are made here in the USA?

And forced labor?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...e-nikes-might-be-made-forced-labor-heres-why/

You know you are allowed to have a different opinion and not throw a fit till you get your way. Example the Tampa Bay Rays it was the Devil rays and people didn't like that. Who cares that people don't like it tell them not to watch.

The generation we are in if someone doesn't get their way they get offended and throw a fit about it.

Yeah Nike's business practices are questionable at best. I made the point of saying they're making a business decision because they are not known to be a progressive company, hence the child labour.

To the point about about the other names.....yeah why not change those too?

To the having a fit point - People every year bring up their displeasure with the names out there (Redskins/Indians), and they seem to not have a fit. We saw what happened when Kap took a knee in a silent protest, a decent portion of the population damn near had a heart attack.
 

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Yeah Nike's business practices are questionable at best. I made the point of saying they're making a business decision because they are not known to be a progressive company, hence the child labour.

To the point about about the other names.....yeah why not change those too?

To the having a fit point - People every year bring up their displeasure with the names out there (Redskins/Indians), and they seem to not have a fit. We saw what happened when Kap took a knee in a silent protest, a decent portion of the population damn near had a heart attack.


My Great Great Grandmother was from Nafplio, Greece which is 10 minutes from Argos. I think Toronto should change the name of it's CFL team because using my ancestors as a mascot for their pleasure (and someone's profit) is sickening.

I'm also 6% Native American and think you should change the name of your country to West England or something less demeaning to Native Americans being that Canada is a bastardized spelling of an Iroquoian word for settlement. You flaunt Canada in our faces after you took our land you colonial apologist. Give me your house. It's on my peoples land.

Isn't outrage a hoot!
 

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My Great Great Grandmother was from Nafplio, Greece which is 10 minutes from Argos. I think Toronto should change the name of it's CFL team because using my ancestors as a mascot for their pleasure (and someone's profit) is sickening.

I'm also 6% Native American and think you should change the name of your country to West England or something less demeaning to Native Americans being that Canada is a bastardized spelling of an Iroquoian word for settlement. You flaunt Canada in our faces after you took our land you colonial apologist. Give me your house. It's on my peoples land.

Isn't outrage a hoot!

Honestly, fold the Argos, fold the CFL.
 

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I like the Monuments. Some saying Redtails.
 

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I like the Monuments. Some saying Redtails.

I’ll take the Washington Caucasians for +2000, imagine how much that would piss people off.
 

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I like the Monuments. Some saying Redtails.

You can’t get rid of that logo tho, Warriors seems like the easiest, most logical choice,... knowing DS tho watch him go “District of Columbia Red Skins’ and be all, ‘There, I changed it, STFU now,...’
 

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You can’t get rid of that logo tho, Warriors seems like the easiest, most logical choice,... knowing DS tho watch him go “District of Columbia Red Skins’ and be all, ‘There, I changed it, STFU now,...’

IDK. If they go away from an Indian name, they'll ditch the logo. If I was DS, I'd ask the American Indians (multiple tribes) to provide recommendations. Call them the Washington Natives. Would that be offensive?
 

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All those suggestions suck btw

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This whole situation has got to be fake news. It Is DC
 

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I like the Monuments. Some saying Redtails.

I'll take Trump and every other name he can put in prison.

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Change the name...don't care what to...hopefully, the karma will result in making the playoffs and actually winning a playoff game...
 

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IDK. If they go away from an Indian name, they'll ditch the logo. If I was DS, I'd ask the American Indians (multiple tribes) to provide recommendations. Call them the Washington Natives. Would that be offensive?

Not today, but it could be in 15 years. It might be best to move away from the topic altogether. As far as I know, it’s not the Indians who are upset about the name. It would probably be best to name it after a specific tribe, but I don’t think the DC area had a prominent tribe like the Lenape or Iroquois, more so smaller little known tribes.
 

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Redskins
Chiefs
Braves
Blackhawks
Indians
(Edmonton) Eskimos
Giants
Royals
Cowboys
White Sox
Pirates
Devils
Wizards

That’s off the top of my head so I’m sure I’m leaving some out, but all those names have to go based on today’s cancel culture.

I disagree with most of those (in terms of native mascots). Redskins can be seen as derogatory, however, Blackhawk, Seminoles (FSU), Fighting Siouix (North Dakota) are just tribes of Indians. Perhaps the brass of the team get with the remaining members of the tribe and have conversations. My Step Father was a superintendent of a school that was "The Chiefs", but (a long time ago), talked to the family of the tribe in the area and they said its as an honor they had that as the mascot. The Braves have a tomahawk as part of their logo, the Indians are just that, Indians, both not derogatory like Redskins is. I doubt we see any other name change outside of Redskins. However, it wouldn't surprise me if I was wrong. It tends to happen often.
 

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I disagree with most of those (in terms of native mascots). Redskins can be seen as derogatory, however, Blackhawk, Seminoles (FSU), Fighting Siouix (North Dakota) are just tribes of Indians. Perhaps the brass of the team get with the remaining members of the tribe and have conversations. My Step Father was a superintendent of a school that was "The Chiefs", but (a long time ago), talked to the family of the tribe in the area and they said its as an honor they had that as the mascot. The Braves have a tomahawk as part of their logo, the Indians are just that, Indians, both not derogatory like Redskins is. I doubt we see any other name change outside of Redskins. However, it wouldn't surprise me if I was wrong. It tends to happen often.

Oh I agree with you. I’m simply stating that the “slippery slope” exists and these names will be changed soon as well. I’ll admit some of it is done “tongue in cheek”

Remember when they said they only wanted to remove “Confederate” monuments. They’d never go after statues of Jesus Christ or founding fathers or Mt Rushmore or Frederick Douglass. But they did.
 

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I have been a redskins fan since i have been old enough to understand football. This name thing has been a complete joke. But no need to argue the name redskins because that's long gone. The commanders is a terrible name, the uniforms are terrible and if that terrible looking robot/outer space looking thing is the masoct then they dropped the ball. I actually think i might have to find a new team to follow.
 

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I have been a redskins fan since i have been old enough to understand football. This name thing has been a complete joke. But no need to argue the name redskins because that's long gone. The commanders is a terrible name, the uniforms are terrible and if that terrible looking robot/outer space looking thing is the masoct then they dropped the ball. I actually think i might have to find a new team to follow.
I am not rooting for them anymore, at least until Dan Snyder sells the team. Agree that Commanders was a ridiculous name choice. Very sad that they wouldn't pony up to get a better name (e.g. Hogs, Red Wolves, Redtails, etc.) that there were trademark issues with.
 

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Red Wolves would have been perfect. Commodores is trash. They had a couple years to figure it out and this is what they came up with. Did they never even consider how many people will call them the Commies? Personally I think that’s hilarious but I’m not a fan of the team.
 

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I am not rooting for them anymore, at least until Dan Snyder sells the team. Agree that Commanders was a ridiculous name choice. Very sad that they wouldn't pony up to get a better name (e.g. Hogs, Red Wolves, Redtails, etc.) that there were trademark issues with.
Swampskins.... doubt the Cajuns would mind.
 

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I am not rooting for them anymore, at least until Dan Snyder sells the team. Agree that Commanders was a ridiculous name choice. Very sad that they wouldn't pony up to get a better name (e.g. Hogs, Red Wolves, Redtails, etc.) that there were trademark issues with.
Snyder has to be one of the worst pro team owners in any sport.

Have you heard where at in VA the new stadium will be?
 

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Snyder has to be one of the worst pro team owners in any sport.

Have you heard where at in VA the new stadium will be?
It sounds like they're really pushing for the RFK site in DC, but that it's tricky with it being federal land. If not, the VA site has always been rumored to be in Loudon County. Don't care too much if I won't be going to games! haha
 

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Dan Snyder announcing the new name and logo:

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