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At the end of the Syracuse game this past weekend(players and everyone were already heading into locker room opposite field side of where i was), i hopped down quickly( we were like 6 rows up from side of endzone and i just went over to take a pic of my son who i had stand at the front rown w/ a background of metlife sign and scoreboard but i needed a lower vandage point to get the pic(his 1st game and i thought it would be a cool pic). I was unable to get the pic as i was quickly grabbed by a State Police offier..i tried exlpaing what i was doing but he wanted to hear nothing of it. I was very cooperative, they took me into a room, padded me down and let me go; HOWEVER i was charged w/ "field jumping"..so now i have a court date...im grasping at straws here, but i could find nothing on what the charge of field jumping is
 
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At the end of the Syracuse game this past weekend(players and everyone were already heading into locker room opposite field side of where i was), i hopped down quickly( we were like 6 rows up from side of endzone and i just went over to take a pic of my son who i had stand at the front rown w/ a background of metlife sign and scoreboard but i needed a lower vandage point to get the pic(his 1st game and i thought it would be a cool pic). I was unable to get the pic as i was quickly grabbed by a State Police offier..i tried exlpaing what i was doing but he wanted to hear nothing of it. I was very cooperative, they took me into a room, padded me down and let me go; HOWEVER i was charged w/ "field jumping"..so now i have a court date...im grasping at straws here, but i could find nothing on what the charge of field jumping is

I'd recommend attempting to contact the DA's office and trying to talk to someone. Hopefully you'll get a reasonable person who will drop the charge. It might be worth it to have an attorney make the call if you've already tried this to find out what exactly is going on. Seems like a judge would be eager to get something trivial like this off his docket.
 

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I'd recommend attempting to contact the DA's office and trying to talk to someone. Hopefully you'll get a reasonable person who will drop the charge. It might be worth it to have an attorney make the call if you've already tried this to find out what exactly is going on. Seems like a judge would be eager to get something trivial like this off his docket.

thanks! hadn't thought of this....i have NEVER been in trouble w/ the law before so this is very new to me.....it wasn't like i was attempting to run on the field, or anything
 

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thanks! hadn't thought of this....i have NEVER been in trouble w/ the law before so this is very new to me.....it wasn't like i was attempting to run on the field, or anything

Yeah, right...I saw the wikileaks docs on you ...A MONTH AGO!!!!
 

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New thread potential - Pandafan is a gangsta- I love this guy!
 

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New thread potential - Pandafan is a gangsta- I love this guy!

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I mean seriously, your actions scream, "The rules don't apply to me and I have no respect for the legal system." I'm sure you are a career criminal.......not coming to a complete stop at the stop sign, just keeping that $5 bill you found as if it was yours. Pure gangsta - I'm glad the police finally caught up to you!!!!
 

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It's only a matter of time before PA is starting threads asking for advice on how to best use vinegar and bleach to get blood stains out.......

In all honestly though PA, that freakin sucks man, I hope you get it worked out soon... Of all the freakin things to happen.
 

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It's only a matter of time before PA is starting threads asking for advice on how to best use vinegar and bleach to get blood stains out.......

In all honestly though PA, that freakin sucks man, I hope you get it worked out soon... Of all the freakin things to happen.

I know man, i just let my emotions of the win and thinking no one will care now that the players and everyone was at the opposite field side heading into their locker rooms...it was scary for my 8 year old which is what i feel sooo damn terrible for because dad just wanted to share a memory....the cop was definitely NOT up for any discussion on the matter, but i was completely cooperative despite being handcuffed once my son was taken into a different room...
 

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I mean, I get it... it's not something we are supposed to do, but with all the truly terrible stuff people get away with on a daily basis I just have to shake my head at how some people get their lives turned upside down on really petty stuff like this.... I really hope you get it worked out. Def follow Grey's advice man.
 

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Sounds like a terrible overreaction from the cop. Obviously he's just doing his job but there always should be some wiggle room if you are 100% cooperative.

I can't imagine that the penalty is very extreme however I would take the advice of GH and see if there is someone you can speak to to just make this go away. If it cannot, then I don't think this is something that will haunt your future but it's still pretty shitty either way.
 

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I mean, I get it... it's not something we are supposed to do, but with all the truly terrible stuff people get away with on a daily basis I just have to shake my head at how some people get their lives turned upside down on really petty stuff like this.... I really hope you get it worked out. Def follow Grey's advice man.

i got a lawyer who is hoping that i can just plead down to a lesser charge or get it dismissed....but 950.00 later....not to mention my wife isn't the happiest of campers either
 

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Sounds like a terrible overreaction from the cop. Obviously he's just doing his job but there always should be some wiggle room if you are 100% cooperative.

I can't imagine that the penalty is very extreme however I would take the advice of GH and see if there is someone you can speak to to just make this go away. If it cannot, then I don't think this is something that will haunt your future but it's still pretty shitty either way.

in today's world I COMPLETELY understand him being vigilant but he wouldn't let me explain that i was trying to take the pic...so i just shut up because he wasn't trying to listen and just replied w/ yes or no sir regarding everything
 

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i got a lawyer who is hoping that i can just plead down to a lesser charge or get it dismissed....but 950.00 later....not to mention my wife isn't the happiest of campers either

I feel you PA, I've been there before... humbling, and yet frustrating bc it's over something so 'small'... Just keep at it with, "This too shall pass, this too shall pass..."
 

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I might know a guy and can get this taken care of...but you're going to have to update your avatar with new bewbs.


In all honesty, this whole thing sounds stupid, sorry you got the shaft here PA. I'd do what the others have suggested to see if the judge will throw it out before it hits court. Worst case scenario I can't imagine the penalty/fine for such a thing is very steep. A prosecutor would likely reduce the charge for you to accept a guilty plea, often times you don't even need a lawyer for that.

The last time I went to court (Mid 20s) I had 3 violations: 12 mph over the speed limit, seat belt off (I made the boneheaded mistake of unbuckling it to get my wallet while waiting for the officer to come to the window), and lastly my license had expired the week prior and I completely missed it. I had a good reason why I was speeding, I had accidentally shorted out my digital dash somehow while installing a CD player. I got it fixed and brought the receipt to court. Got the license taken care of, and I figured I'd eat the seatbelt charge or at least try to explain what happened. The Prosecutor met with me before the case went before the judge, no lawyer with me, and he ended up reducing the speeding violation to under 10, so no points on my license. Reduced the expired license to "license not available" which was a lesser charge, and threw out the seat belt violation. Obviously I took the plea deal, paid the fine, and went on my way. Could have been a nasty fine and worse if I had to eat the entire list of charges...especially if I got the points on my license. I think I already had a bunch on it at the time. I was a horrible driver in my early 20s.

At any rate, if the judge won't throw it out, talk with the prosecutor before you see the judge and see if you can work a deal...unless you're paying that lawyer all that cash and plan on fighting it.
 
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I might know a guy and can get this taken care of...but you're going to have to update your avatar with new bewbs.


In all honesty, this whole thing sounds stupid, sorry you got the shaft here PA. I'd do what the others have suggested to see if the judge will throw it out before it hits court. Worst case scenario I can't imagine the penalty/fine for such a thing is very steep. A prosecutor would likely reduce the charge for you to accept a guilty plea, often times you don't even need a lawyer for that.

The last time I went to court (Mid 20s) I had 3 violations: 12 mph over the speed limit, seat belt off (I made the boneheaded mistake of unbuckling it to get my wallet while waiting for the officer to come to the window), and lastly my license had expired the week prior and I completely missed it. I had a good reason why I was speeding, I had accidentally shorted out my digital dash somehow while installing a CD player. I got it fixed and brought the receipt to court. Got the license taken care of, and I figured I'd eat the seatbelt charge or at least try to explain what happened. The Prosecutor met with me before the case went before the judge, no lawyer with me, and he ended up reducing the speeding violation to under 10, so no points on my license. Reduced the expired license to "license not available" which was a lesser charge, and threw out the seat belt violation. Obviously I took the plea deal, paid the fine, and went on my way. Could have been a nasty fine and worse if I had to eat the entire list of charges...especially if I got the points on my license. I think I already had a bunch on it at the time. I was a horrible driver in my early 20s.

At any rate, if the judge won't throw it out, talk with the prosecutor before you see the judge and see if you can work a deal...unless you're paying that lawyer all that cash and plan on fighting it.

up to 1 year jail, 1,000 fine :sigh:
 

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i got a lawyer who is hoping that i can just plead down to a lesser charge or get it dismissed....but 950.00 later....not to mention my wife isn't the happiest of campers either

Might be worth it...I hear in Chicago it's a fine of upwards of 10G's and may even include some jail time. And you will probably be banned for life

Now, that probably applies to those that run on the field, but still...Good grief
 

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Might be worth it...I hear in Chicago it's a fine of upwards of 10G's and may even include some jail time. And you will probably be banned for life

Now, that probably applies to those that run on the field, but still...Good grief

oh that to...but i can apply for reinstatement from the paperwork i received...yeah, no thanks!
 

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Sounds like a terrible overreaction from the cop. Obviously he's just doing his job but there always should be some wiggle room if you are 100% cooperative.

I can't imagine that the penalty is very extreme however I would take the advice of GH and see if there is someone you can speak to to just make this go away. If it cannot, then I don't think this is something that will haunt your future but it's still pretty shitty either way.

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oh that to...but i can apply for reinstatement from the paperwork i received...yeah, no thanks!


I've never seen the phrase "field Jumping". That's a new one

I think you'll be fine in the end...these rules are mainly to keep morons off the field of play
 

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was gonna post a wise ass comment, but I noticed you are in this a grand already...and it could be another grand and or jail time...so ...just sorry that happened man.
 

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If there's the potential for jail time get a lawyer. Nobody here can give you legal advice.
 

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Sorry man- It's just so stupid! I can't believe they wouldn't just dismiss it. At some point policing and the judicial system should have a basic level of common sense. With all the real bs and violent crimes that are occurring, this is just incredibly stupid. If it happened to me i would be incredibly pissed. I feel for you because it would be something I would do and having your kid see you cuffed is beyond idiotic behavior by the police. How about a stern " you need to get off the field now" ....... asinine
 

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At the end of the Syracuse game this past weekend(players and everyone were already heading into locker room opposite field side of where i was), i hopped down quickly( we were like 6 rows up from side of endzone and i just went over to take a pic of my son who i had stand at the front rown w/ a background of metlife sign and scoreboard but i needed a lower vandage point to get the pic(his 1st game and i thought it would be a cool pic). I was unable to get the pic as i was quickly grabbed by a State Police offier..i tried exlpaing what i was doing but he wanted to hear nothing of it. I was very cooperative, they took me into a room, padded me down and let me go; HOWEVER i was charged w/ "field jumping"..so now i have a court date...im grasping at straws here, but i could find nothing on what the charge of field jumping is

Trespassing. You had a ticket to be IN the stands not ON "the field".

Not a lawyer. I would think the penalty depends upon what you did when you got to the field. In your case that would be nothing since you didn't go "on the field", inside the white lines, nor even headed in that direction. I assume your son was in still in the stands posing for a picture. I'd like to see the judge's face if you brought your son to court to testify that dad said. "Stay here I gonna get a further away to get the name of the stadium in the shot".

Stadiums are serious about protecting players and "field" but with camera in hand post game you weren't a chaser, disrupter, nor a goal post remover.

By the way, how did you get out of the stands, jump down, walk through a gate, ... Your means of egress from the stands says a lot about your demeanor. You weren't running, trying to dodge security, you had camera in hand, by the way, did you take a picture of your kid before leaving the stands backing up story, do you have a out of focus picture of shoes when security grabbed you demonstrating camera at the ready. Also, did you defy security's "direction" to not come out of the field just before apprehended.


If all else fails provide a letter of reference from the mods so the prosecutor doesn't use your IE banning as a sign of a prior conviction for hooliganism.
 

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Clearly, this is your only hope:

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If all else fails provide a letter of reference from the mods so the prosecutor doesn't use your IE banning as a sign of a prior conviction for hooliganism.

Given PANDA's avatar history, methinks IE wouldn't be the best source for character witnesses.
 

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Wow, that's seems petty. If you are going to get charged with that, should have at least streaked across the field or something. Seriously, I can't see that charge sticking, seems ridiculous. Cop must've been the ONE syracuse fan.
 
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