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[dublinirish]

 

[Me2SouthBend]

Shedeur isn't either of those guys though, nor is he remotely close to either of their situations when they were in college. The Portal, NIL and his pedigree have put him into a position that Russell and Leaf could have never fathomed.

He has a HOF father over one shoulder along with a litany of lawyers, agents and accountants guiding the path. For every luxury vehicle and gold chain, someone is there putting his money into places where it's going to earn more. A lot of these guys are far smarter about that kind of stuff today because of the resources made available to them and have to be because of the exposure of social media. Nothing is a secret anymore. Certain guys back in the 80s and 90s don't survive it with the shit they pulled. They were able to. Shedeur has access to NFL people who have gotten him this far and he's likely going to get drafted just as those guys did only with more infrastructure around him. There's a massive difference between his trajectory now vs Russell and Leaf back then.

And he obviously has Deion as a father and therefore safety net should finances go sideways.

There are plenty of people walking this earth that do not have college degrees and are doing just fine, and the majority of them don't have Deion Sanders as their father. While you and I probably value a college degree for ourselves and for our own children, there are obvious exceptions. Those exceptions probably don't manifest into opportunity for yours, me and mine but they exist nonetheless. The world is going to keep turning regardless of whether Shedeur Sanders gets a college degree. Jackson State, Colorado or wherever the hell he'd decide on will still be open later if he wanted to go back and get a degree if he decided it was worth it.

So does the same hold true for his brother? What happened to his safety net? He does have the same father.

Mercedes-Benz wants car back from Deion Sanders' son Shilo after alleged default — USA TODAY

Deion Sanders' son Shilo bought a $135,000 Mercedes in 2023, but now it's become an issue in his bankruptcy proceedings

apple.news

 

[Jimmy3Putt]

Woof

 

[IrishLion]

What a fucking mess that is.

Deion calls security guard, asks him to take Shilo's phone so he can't call his mom during a custody battle. Shilo hurts the security guard.

Deion initially supports that the security guard did what he was supposed to do... then flips his position. Shilo doesn't show up at court, security guard wins a $12M judgement, Shilo immediately files for bankruptcy to eliminate the debt... but not until he somehow finances a new Benz??

And the whole while, Deion is manipulating a school employee to give him edited footage of the incident, and the footage with the whole incident is mysteriously and "accidentally" deleted while the the employee was trying to save the footage to a flash drive, so the only version released to the public was edited and incomplete.

1. Mercedes financed a car to a kid that they shouldn't have... especially if they didn't require Deion to co-sign.
2. If they would have required Deion to co-sign, he'd be involved with this, but he's not, soooooo... Mercedes-Benz probably realized their colossal fuckup
3. Pure speculation, but I'd imagine **someone** gave Shilo the advice to ignore the original civil court hearing to avoid further legal issues related to the video footage, knowing he could file bankruptcy as a way to ignore any potential judgement for failing to appear.

Can't imagine what the common thread is here! Couldn't possibly have been the dude that started a bullshit athletic school as a pipeline for athletes that ultimately failed, and who threatened anyone and everyone involved along the way when things didn't go exactly as he planned, including his demand for a pay raise despite dire financial issues and total lack of care for the actual kids.

 

[IrishLion]

(I actually think Deion has turned into a pretty good college coach, and DI football provides him an infallible scaffolding for the mentorship and leadership he wants to provide to the kids, which is what he TRIED to do with Prime Prep... the problem is that he wasn't in an "impossible to fail" situation back then like he is now in terms of the money required to give him the free reign that he wants. And I was wayyyyy wrong on my predictions about him failing at the DI level, and was even more wrong in how much money I would have bet that he'd be done as a head coach as soon as his kids were out of eligibility.)

 

[NorthDakota]

(I actually think Deion has turned into a pretty good college coach, and DI football provides him an infallible scaffolding for the mentorship and leadership he wants to provide to the kids, which is what he TRIED to do with Prime Prep... the problem is that he wasn't in an "impossible to fail" situation back then like he is now in terms of the money required to give him the free reign that he wants. And I was wayyyyy wrong on my predictions about him failing at the DI level, and was even more wrong in how much money I would have bet that he'd be done as a head coach as soon as his kids were out of eligibility.)

My brother in Christ he is 13-12.

 

[IrishLion]

My brother in Christ he is 13-12.

This year, without Shedeur, will tell the tale.

I was honestly surprised at their turnaround from year one to last year. 3-9 to 9-4, and one blown game from a potential CFP birth. Of course, getting the shitty Big XII's playoff spot isn't quite the feather in the cap it is from other conferences, but I was still wrong about how they played the transfer portal and upgraded their staff and roster.

I didn't think Deion's roster management style would be sustainable, but it appears it might be enough to keep them in contention as long as he's there. And I think that's a sign of a decent evaluator and coach... at least, until it all falls apart without Shedeur saving the day.

 

[Irish#1]

(I actually think Deion has turned into a pretty good college coach, and DI football provides him an infallible scaffolding for the mentorship and leadership he wants to provide to the kids, which is what he TRIED to do with Prime Prep... the problem is that he wasn't in an "impossible to fail" situation back then like he is now in terms of the money required to give him the free reign that he wants. And I was wayyyyy wrong on my predictions about him failing at the DI level, and was even more wrong in how much money I would have bet that he'd be done as a head coach as soon as his kids were out of eligibility.)

I think it's too early to tell if he's very good or just another average D1 coach, but his record so far says average.

 

[Irish#1]

So does the same hold true for his brother? What happened to his safety net? He does have the same father.

Mercedes-Benz wants car back from Deion Sanders' son Shilo after alleged default — USA TODAY

Deion Sanders' son Shilo bought a $135,000 Mercedes in 2023, but now it's become an issue in his bankruptcy proceedings

apple.news

Not a good look.

 

[Fbolt]

Not surprised.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

So does the same hold true for his brother? What happened to his safety net? He does have the same father.

Mercedes-Benz wants car back from Deion Sanders' son Shilo after alleged default — USA TODAY

Deion Sanders' son Shilo bought a $135,000 Mercedes in 2023, but now it's become an issue in his bankruptcy proceedings

apple.news

I....guess so?

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I think it's too early to tell if he's very good or just another average D1 coach, but his record so far says average.

It's been two seasons. It's either too early or he's average.

Pick the lane.

 

[ulukinatme]

I maintain he's screwed this year without his son and Travis to help prop up that team. I doubt he's going to strike gold with replacements. His best bet was to move to another school. I see Colorado losing a bunch more games. Looking at their schedule I think they're going to be back to 3-4 wins again, give or take.

 

[ACamp1900]

He’s crushing it in my NCAA dynasty,……….

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

He loses Sanders and Hunter. They're going to need a more balanced team going forward without those guys. It would start with finding QB1. Is it Salter from Liberty or an early enrollee freshman Lewis?

So far they don't have the crazy transfer turnover they have had in the past, but it's only April.

His 2024 coordinator hires were both impactful. They also went from the PAC 12 to the Big 12 from 2023 to 2024. The team probably got better but there was a major change of scenery due to conference realignment.

 

[zelezo vlk]

He needs to get their OL figured out; two years in a row of horrendous units out there.

 

[MacIrish75]

Apparently the bar for getting your jersey retired at Colorado is:

+ Go 13-12
+ Lose the Alamo Bowl

At least Hunter won a Heisman lol. You maybe retire his in a few years…but Shedeur? Hilarious 🤣

 

[ulukinatme]

Apparently the bar for getting your jersey retired at Colorado is:

+ Go 13-12
+ Lose the Alamo Bowl

At least Hunter won a Heisman lol. You maybe retire his in a few years…but Shedeur? Hilarious 🤣

Yeah, I could see Hunter. One of the other 4 jerseys retired at Colorado was Rashaan Salaam, another Heisman winner who rushed for 2000 yards in a season. Other retirees were Bobby Anderson, the #11 overall pick in 1970 after playing both QB and RB, Joe Romig a 2 time All American who played both ways, and Byron White who led the NFL in rushing in two of the three years he played but more famously became a US Supreme Court judge.

Shedeur doesn't really fit in with that group.

 

[Rocketman84]

Apparently the bar for getting your jersey retired at Colorado is:

+ Go 13-12
+ Lose the Alamo Bowl

At least Hunter won a Heisman lol. You maybe retire his in a few years…but Shedeur? Hilarious 🤣

I know this can't be real? Retiring Shadeur's jersey? They better off retiring Koy Detmer's jersey first 🙄🙄

 

[greyhammer90]

Apparently the bar for getting your jersey retired at Colorado is:

+ Go 13-12
+ Lose the Alamo Bowl

At least Hunter won a Heisman lol. You maybe retire his in a few years…but Shedeur? Hilarious 🤣

This pandering to a mediocre coach who has given them a shred of media attention via association is so small-timey and gross.

 

[Irish#1]

Yeah, I could see Hunter. One of the other 4 jerseys retired at Colorado was Rashaan Salaam, another Heisman winner who rushed for 2000 yards in a season. Other retirees were Bobby Anderson, the #11 overall pick in 1970 after playing both QB and RB, Joe Romig a 2 time All American who played both ways, and Byron White who led the NFL in rushing in two of the three years he played but more famously became a US Supreme Court judge.

Shedeur doesn't really fit in with that group.

No Bieniemy? He's their all time leader in rushing yards and TD's.

Curious as to who nominates them and the process for approval, but yeah, Shedeur doesn't belong there with the others.

 

[dublinirish]

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Jersey retirements and statues are just bad ideas.

Crazy how people are discussing which CU players past and present are worthy of having their numbers retired when you consider the program hadn't finished ranked in the top 25 since 2016 and hasn't been in the top ten since 2001 under Gary Barnett.

 

[jprue24]

I don't know where to put this...

"Upon meeting with teams around the league in the weeks leading up to the NFL draft, he's made it clear he wants to continue playing both sides of the ball as a professional -- something he told CBS Sports isn't an issue for any club he's met with. However, if an NFL team told him it'd only allow him to play either wide receiver or cornerback, Hunter would make it clear he's not playing football at all.

"It's never playing football again," Hunter told CBS Sports last week. "Because I've been doing it my whole life, and I love being on the football field. I feel like I could dominate on each side of the ball, so I really enjoy doing it."

Travis Hunter would rather stop playing vs. playing one position; chats Browns fit, why Shedeur Sanders is QB1

Hunter addressed a variety of topics in a one-on-one with CBS Sports

www.cbssports.com

 

[Rockin’Irish]

I don't know where to put this...

"Upon meeting with teams around the league in the weeks leading up to the NFL draft, he's made it clear he wants to continue playing both sides of the ball as a professional -- something he told CBS Sports isn't an issue for any club he's met with. However, if an NFL team told him it'd only allow him to play either wide receiver or cornerback, Hunter would make it clear he's not playing football at all.

"It's never playing football again," Hunter told CBS Sports last week. "Because I've been doing it my whole life, and I love being on the football field. I feel like I could dominate on each side of the ball, so I really enjoy doing it."

Travis Hunter would rather stop playing vs. playing one position; chats Browns fit, why Shedeur Sanders is QB1

Hunter addressed a variety of topics in a one-on-one with CBS Sports

www.cbssports.com

I certainly understand his motivation and he‘s a great talent but I think it will be tough for him to stay healthy throughout a season playing both sides of the ball. I’m guessing team owners will have to think twice based on investment/reward vs. risk, especially in this era of guaranteed contracts. I suppose if the coaching staff is able to parse out the snaps on one side of the ball or the other, it might work (and maybe not too much of a receiver role “over the middle”). It’ll be interesting to see how it pans out in the end.

 

[jprue24]

I certainly understand his motivation and he‘s a great talent but I think it will be tough for him to stay healthy throughout a season playing both sides of the ball. I’m guessing team owners will have to think twice based on investment/reward vs. risk, especially in this era of guaranteed contracts. I suppose if the coaching staff is able to parse out the snaps on one side of the ball or the other, it might work (and maybe not too much of a receiver role “over the middle”). It’ll be interesting to see how it pans out in the end.

I appreciate his authenticity.

I think he gets to do it until it's clearly not working. Rookies are on a pay scale. It should be know by extension time if he can play both ways.

 

[Rockin’Irish]

I appreciate his authenticity.

I think he gets to do it until it's clearly not working. Rookies are on a pay scale. It should be know by extension time if he can play both ways.

Good point on the rookie pay scale. He should probably do it early in his career because it will get tougher as time goes on but I guess that’s pretty obvious. I know he was hurt during this past season for a bit, not sure what side of the ball he was on during the injury.

 

[Irish#1]

He can certainly play on either side, but he may be underestimating the difficulty in playing on both sides of the ball. The speed, size and physicality is a big step up from CFB.

 

[Blazers46]

Players have issues even trying to play WR/RB. It seems to be fun to watch but short lived. There is a reason why people like a (different sport) LeBron has played so long. Rest, skipped games/load management, taking care of and spending a fortune on his body… both sides of the ball won’t be just physically daunting and mentally exhausting but he has to be good too. Can he be elite enough to make the cost/benefit worth both sides.

 

[Me2SouthBend]

I don't know where to put this...

"Upon meeting with teams around the league in the weeks leading up to the NFL draft, he's made it clear he wants to continue playing both sides of the ball as a professional -- something he told CBS Sports isn't an issue for any club he's met with. However, if an NFL team told him it'd only allow him to play either wide receiver or cornerback, Hunter would make it clear he's not playing football at all.

"It's never playing football again," Hunter told CBS Sports last week. "Because I've been doing it my whole life, and I love being on the football field. I feel like I could dominate on each side of the ball, so I really enjoy doing it."

Travis Hunter would rather stop playing vs. playing one position; chats Browns fit, why Shedeur Sanders is QB1

Hunter addressed a variety of topics in a one-on-one with CBS Sports

www.cbssports.com

I’m curious what he’ll do if he never plays football again?