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[Irish#1]

It doesn't make sense because CU is a big nothing burger. The whole point of these realignment is for TV ratings. Why wouldn't the B12 go after better schools like Utah or ASU? Does it really matter that they used to be in the B12 years ago? The B12 is looking more and more like a G5 conference

CU actually goes back to the days when the B12 was the Big 8, but it does make sense beyond that. The TV market in Denver is three times bigger than Salt Lake City and Colorado's population is 5.8M compared to 3.3M for Utah. ASU's TV market is larger than CU.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

CU actually goes back to the days when the B12 was the Big 8, but it does make sense beyond that. The TV market in Denver is three times bigger than Salt Lake City and Colorado's population is 5.8M compared to 3.3M for Utah. ASU's TV market is larger than CU.

They share it with Arizona to an extent, though, right?

What doesn't make sense is the PAC 12 as far as I'm concerned. They should have had this TV deal done yesterday. The Big 12 wanting to add a few more teams and Colorado being one of them just seems logical and logistical.

 

[Huntr]

The Pac-12's media deal is gonna be garbage. I'd bet on an exodus whenever those details get out.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

The Pac-12's media deal is gonna be garbage. I'd bet on an exodus whenever those details get out.

The exodus is here, isn't it? SC and UCLA are out. CU has a foot out the door. Utah and the Arizonas flirting with the Big 12.

Have to wonder what the hell their plan is.

 

[Huntr]

I'd say so. Utah and the 2 Arizona schools look like they want to hold out as long as they can, but I can't see them staying. UW and the Ducks are praying for a B1G invite, which means Ore St and Wazzu are gonna be left holding the bag, because Stanford dgaf, and Cal doesn't know whether to shit or go blind.

 

[NDohio]

Coach Prime also is more comfortable recruiting Texas than he is Cali. This deal gets him into that Texas market for recruiting.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I'd say so. Utah and the 2 Arizona schools look like they want to hold out as long as they can, but I can't see them staying. UW and the Ducks are praying for a B1G invite, which means Ore St and Wazzu are gonna be left holding the bag, because Stanford dgaf, and Cal doesn't know whether to shit or go blind.

It's been over a decade since CU joined the PAC 12. What has it done for their exposure? At the time they left, Texas was calling all of the shots in the Big 12 and Nebraska had left for the Big Ten. Now Nebraska is an afterthought in the Big Ten and Texas is off to the SEC.

Colorado can't afford to sit around and wait. It's good move and they're capitalizing on Prime before he's even coached a real down.

 

[Huntr]

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Coach Prime also is more comfortable recruiting Texas than he is Cali. This deal gets him into that Texas market for recruiting.

Huge point. They will now have games against Baylor, TCU, Houston and Texas Tech. It's a good sell.

They need one more now to balance this out, perhaps three. Go all in on Utah, Arizona and Arizona State. PAC 12 is essentially done if that's the case.

 

[GATTACA!]

Huge point. They will now have games against Baylor, TCU, Houston and Texas Tech. It's a good sell.

They need one more now to balance this out, perhaps three. Go all in on Utah, Arizona and Arizona State. PAC 12 is essentially done if that's the case.

What about Washington and Oregon? Or is it a forgone conclusion they eventually end up in the B1G?

 

[Irish#1]

What about Washington and Oregon? Or is it a forgone conclusion they eventually end up in the B1G?

Oregon and UW want to join the B1G, but the B1G isn't as infatuated with them as they are with the B1G.

I don't remember a specific reason being given as to why.

 

[Irish#1]

They share it with Arizona to an extent, though, right?

What doesn't make sense is the PAC 12 as far as I'm concerned. They should have had this TV deal done yesterday. The Big 12 wanting to add a few more teams and Colorado being one of them just seems logical and logistical.

They're about 100 miles apart IIRC. I would think they share some, but I have no clue as to how much.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

They're about 100 miles apart IIRC. I would think they share some, but I have no clue as to how much.

We can probably assume that the market split between ASU and Arizona is more even compared to what CU takes from CSU, though, right?

I like what the Big 12 is doing.

 

[Blazers46]

We can probably assume that the market split between ASU and Arizona is more even compared to what CU takes from CSU, though, right?

I like what the Big 12 is doing.

Either get bigger or dissolve. There is no middle ground. PAC12 looks like the odd one out of the power 5 soon.

It will be interesting to see what shakes out there and with the ACC/SEC in the future.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

"All this is about money, you know that. It’s about a bag, everybody’s chasing the bag. Then you get mad at the players when they chase it. "

“How is that? How do the grownups get mad at the players when they chase it, when the colleges are chasing it?”

He's 100% correct. Global society, for the last 50+ years, has been all about money. Guys like Dabo get to make as much as they want and it's okay to them, but when certain others try to do the same and stake their own bank account, it's a big problem for guys like Dabo.

So many things about Deion Sanders disrupt this establishment. He's absolutely speaking not only about the schools, but about a lot of the other head coaches who have publicly criticized him by name.

 

[Giddyup]

Yeah I just said that 10 posts above. The colleges are really poor examples of what is important in life. And these schools are flush with money to begin with.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Deion Sanders, be it by sermon, commercial or YouTube, can still sell anything

"He was electric," Olivia Harlan Dekker said. "Everything that he says sounds like a bumper sticker or it should be sewn on a pillow.”

theathletic.com

 

[NDWarrior]

A different perspective, however, could be costly in a close game where a lot penalties and player ejections could cost CU the game 'If one fights, we all fight': Coach Prime scolds players for ignoring fracas

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I'm hoping he wins a lot of games at CU, but I also hope JSU wins a lot of games without him. They got one yesterday.

 

[calvegas04]

Can't wait to hear him blame his players for losing games

 

[irishnd31]

Amazing to see what we have…. And what they are saddled with. Best of luck Buffs. I’d run through a brick wall for Freeman. prime would run through a brick wall, well, probably just for prime

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I find the reaction of other fan base's to Deion Sanders rather interesting. He comes into a program that was 1-11 last year and the only thing they can say about themselves for the last decade is they lost two Alamo Bowls, and one of them was in 2020. Guts said program by way of the transfer portal and brings several newly poached recruits in with his 2023 class.

If Greg Schiano is doing this at Rutgers or Urban Meyer does it in 2024 at OU or Texas, who is clutching their pearls about it?

Meanwhile, recruiting and on field demands of Marcus Freeman are sky high here and everywhere else where ND fans congregate. For all the "must get" recruiting talk and "this is unacceptable" sad panda posts after a loss, I think a lot of people here would have absolutely no problem acting in the same roster management manner, because some of you have all but admitted it. Many among us here were practically begging for Keeley and Bowen to just get paid whatever they wanted.

He has people in the profession like Nick Saban, Pat Narduzzi and Brett Venables beefing with. Tells me all I need to know about who is in a twist about what Deion Sanders is doing and why.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Inside Deion Sanders' roster remake of Colorado football

A look at how Sanders executed exit interviews after the spring like an NFL cutdown day. Saturday we get to start seeing if his plan worked.

www.espn.com

Sounds like he's not into everyone getting a participation trophy and being told how great they are.

Certainly a narrative that often falls right in line with a lot of the same people that get the scaries at what it is he's done with his roster overhaul.

 

[IrishLion]

The only thing that bothers me about the "Deion's Roster Construction Making Waves" articles is that it misses last year's shining example, which legitimately was almost as shocking: USC.

USC shouldn't need a total overhaul, and yet Riley remade more than half of that roster with transfers and last-minute recruiting steals. Same shit Deion is getting blasted for, and Riley even got a little heat about it just last year... but it's like everyone forgot, or just wants to be part of the renewed conversation because clicks.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

The only thing that bothers me about the "Deion's Roster Construction Making Waves" articles is that it misses last year's shining example, which legitimately was almost as shocking: USC.

USC shouldn't need a total overhaul, and yet Riley remade more than half of that roster with transfers and last-minute recruiting steals. Same shit Deion is getting blasted for, and Riley even got a little heat about it just last year... but it's like everyone forgot, or just wants to be part of the renewed conversation because clicks.

Hmmm....

Riley is the QB Kingmaker though. He belongs in the space because he fell off the Leach and Stoops Trees.

Deion doesn't belong. Too loud. Upsets the applecart.

 

[Rockin’Irish]

Hmmm....

Riley is the QB Kingmaker though. He belongs in the space because he fell off the Leach and Stoops Trees.

Deion doesn't belong. Too loud. Upsets the applecart.

I don’t think we can put Deion in the same space as Riley, Schiano or Meyer just yet. I don’t really care if Coach Prime gets lots of media attention because it is a fun story however, he has a much shorter track record as a coach as compared to the others. Does he deserve all the attention? I guess we’ll have to wait and see, success will silence many (but never all) of the critics. I’ll definitely be following CU to see how they perform.

 

[benneboy]

Hmmm....

Riley is the QB Kingmaker though. He belongs in the space because he fell off the Leach and Stoops Trees.

Deion doesn't belong. Too loud. Upsets the applecart.

My primary issue with him is not the roster overhaul. I don't like his message, approach, undeserved bravado in the coaching world, and frankly don't like him.

One of my favorite football quotes was one Andrew Luck used at Stanford "My actions are so loud you can't hear what I'm saying"

Deion is the epitome of the opposite of that. Can't stop screaming about how great he is and how hes bringing his bags of Gucci. Meanwhile he wasn't able to win a championship in a pretty weak league with FAR superior talent.

His schtick worked as a player. He didn't need to set the standard for 85 kids. He will demand discipline, attention to detail, and ultimately success from his players but is placing emphasis on things that don't breed a culture to cultivate those qualities. His hypocrisy bothers me more than anything.

 

[StPaul_Irish]

The only thing that bothers me about the "Deion's Roster Construction Making Waves" articles is that it misses last year's shining example, which legitimately was almost as shocking: USC.

USC shouldn't need a total overhaul, and yet Riley remade more than half of that roster with transfers and last-minute recruiting steals. Same shit Deion is getting blasted for, and Riley even got a little heat about it just last year... but it's like everyone forgot, or just wants to be part of the renewed conversation because clicks.

I think I may have figured out a way to fix the portal and college football, but not sure where to put it. I know there are some holes in it but it may stop/slow guys from blowing up rosters, gray shirting, buying up all the 5* talent, and reduce transfers.
I am all for commentary, as I said this is just my random drive time thinking here. This is the first time I put anything down.

What if we dropped the Scholarship limit from 85 down to say 60 (this number can change).
I know you can't have 53 like the NFL, because the NFL can trade/pick up free agents mid season but....

- Force coaches to develop the entire roster
- Force coaches to recruit quality, not just quantity
- Limit schools like (OSU/ALA/LSU) from being 4 deep w/ all 5*
-Parity - talent gets spread out as teams fill up

(MODS please move to a more appropriate thread if needed)

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I don’t think we can put Deion in the same space as Riley, Schiano or Meyer just yet. I don’t really care if Coach Prime gets lots of media attention because it is a fun story however, he has a much shorter track record as a coach as compared to the others. Does he deserve all the attention? I guess we’ll have to wait and see, success will silence many (but never all) of the critics. I’ll definitely be following CU to see how they perform.

Nobody is.

Lion points out, however, that Riley has done a similar roster overhaul and no one is really talking about it. Hypothetically speaking if Meyer or Schiano were doing it, the narrative would likely be similar to that of Riley doing it. Silent.

 

[Irishdrunk]

How many HCs wear sunglasses in a Presser? He pulls it off.... I googles and I didn't see any mentioned eyesight problems.

I think starting in 2026 he will be landing Top 15 classes. Lots of 2026 recruits have CU on their lists.