Presidential Election 2024

[Blazers46]

LMAO

Trumps wall dumb… Kamala’s wall good.

 

[TorontoGold]

It's not stupidity. It's intentional dishonesty. He knows the difference. He just can't present a factual, rational argument to any of it so he intentionally distorts, spins, twists, pretends to misunderstand, and then argues against that. Classic strawman stuff.

Good to see the town bicycle back. Are you ever going to engage in anything that isn't just culture war ad hominem stuff? I can keep that going if you'd like, but we both know that you'll have to be rescued (as is tradition). So what is it, cower and be saved or just sit in the bushes lobbing little comments?

You're more than welcome to post anything to support your previous claims made.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

Unlike the facts and data you use to make your arguments..........wait

Dude, just Google it

 

[NDVirginia19]

I'm pretty sure he was in the navy reserves for 8 years and deployed to Afghanistan while he was mayor for 7 months

He commissioned lol, I’m just being a pedantic dickhead. But there is a pretty big difference between enlisting and commissioning, both in what your actual job is, the realities of your day to day, and culturally where your likely to have come from and how you were generally raised. Historically military commissions were things handed out to the children of the elites (legacy of that still today as you need a congressional nomination to attend a service academy) but it’s not quite the same today. The Army Officer’s guide in the late 1800s said ““Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear considerable watching.””

 

[Bishop2b5]

Good to see the town bicycle back. Are you ever going to engage in anything that isn't just culture war ad hominem stuff? I can keep that going if you'd like, but we both know that you'll have to be rescued (as is tradition). So what is it, cower and be saved or just sit in the bushes lobbing little comments?

You're more than welcome to post anything to support your previous claims made.

Don't scold me for ad hominem attacks while using one yourself. Let's stick to the point at hand. You are indeed a relentlessly dishonest poster, even when the truth would probably serve you better. In almost every political or cultural discussion that you participate in, you refuse to reply to what the other posters actual write, and instead twist, distort, misrepresent, intentionally misunderstand what they said, spin, dodge, or just outright lie, then reply to YOUR incorrect and dishonest version of their point. You surely know that everyone understands why you have to do that, don't you? If facts and reason supported your goofy, childish opinions, you'd have no need to do so.

 

[TorontoGold]

Don't scold me for ad hominem attacks while using one yourself. Let's stick to the point at hand. You are indeed a relentlessly dishonest poster, even when the truth would probably serve you better. In almost every political or cultural discussion that you participate in, you refuse to reply to what the other posters actual write, and instead twist, distort, misrepresent, intentionally misunderstand what they said, spin, dodge, or just outright lie, then reply to YOUR incorrect and dishonest version of their point. You surely know that everyone understands why you have to do that, don't you? If facts and reason supported your goofy, childish opinions, you'd have no need to do so.

I've responded to your tantrums enough times to know you won't respond to me posts with studies/facts. I'll scold you for cowering from others and only coming in for little culture war things. But we all know you can't talk anything that isn't cultural outrage dujour.

So, please indulge us all with an actual fact based argument against the other posters. Can you do that? Can try engaging in that kind of conversation with Jigga or Gattaca? They've responded to you in earnest, and you've had to run or get big brother to change the topic.

 

[Bishop2b5]

I've responded to your tantrums enough times to know you won't respond to me posts with studies/facts. I'll scold you for cowering from others and only coming in for little culture war things. But we all know you can't talk anything that isn't cultural outrage dujour.

So, please indulge us all with an actual fact based argument against the other posters. Can you do that? Can try engaging in that kind of conversation with Jigga or Gattaca? They've responded to you in earnest, and you've had to run or get big brother to change the topic.

Calling my or anyone else's criticisms of your dishonesty a "tantrum" doesn't make it so nor refute our assertions. It only comes across as a dodge and yet another strawman argument. Putting "lmao" at the end of almost everything you post doesn't make it funny nor convince anyone that their post was laughable. It just makes you look silly and unable to actually refute what they said. I don't criticize or bust on you for personal reasons. I do it because you relentlessly post childish, insecure, dishonest nonsense, then get mad when called on it. There's a way to not get criticized for doing so over and over and over and to get the rest of the board to stop making fun of you for the Toronto Vortex and strawman stuff: stop doing it. You seem reasonably intelligent. When you first joined the group, you were reasonable and a decent contributor. Somehow you slowly drifted into this Toronto Vortex persona and relentless strawman arguer, though. Come back to the light. Stop the constant lying, spinning, and intentional distorting of EVERYTHING that others say. As someone else pointed out tonight, it's tiresome.

 

[NorthDakota]

Sean at RCP said the same thing, and if they’re pitching Conservative media people with the story then it’s gotta be out there to everyone *and* unverifiable

Throw in timing too.

If dems had something good, it would've been out earlier. Voting started weeks ago.

 

[NorthDakota]

What's your reasoning behind it being pitched to Conservative media as it being unverifiable? Not arguing just want to know your reasoning, because I would have thought that if it was sketchy they would pitch it to the Krasstein brothers on Twitter or like MSNBC?

I believe the thinking is you shop stories to the most friendly media first as that is where folks generally have the most friends/colleagues/sympathies.

 

[Blazers46]

I’m hoping we can all look back at this thread one day and laugh.

 

[TorontoGold]

Calling my or anyone else's criticisms of your dishonesty a "tantrum" doesn't make it so nor refute our assertions. It only comes across as a dodge and yet another strawman argument. Putting "lmao" at the end of almost everything you post doesn't make it funny nor convince anyone that their post was laughable. It just makes you look silly and unable to actually refute what they said. I don't criticize or bust on you for personal reasons. I do it because you relentlessly post childish, insecure, dishonest nonsense, then get mad when called on it. There's a way to not get criticized for doing so over and over and over and to get the rest of the board to stop making fun of you for the Toronto Vortex and strawman stuff: stop doing it. You seem reasonably intelligent. When you first joined the group, you were reasonable and a decent contributor. Somehow you slowly drifted into this Toronto Vortex persona and relentless strawman arguer, though. Come back to the light. Stop the constant lying, spinning, and intentional distorting of EVERYTHING that others say. As someone else pointed out tonight, it's tiresome.

So, I'll take that as a no? You know I get chided for posting links or asking for links? Whether or not you agree with them it's a least at step towards having something to discuss rather just empty platitudes.

Stop responding to me - prove that you can hold an intelligent discussion with someone to prove that I'm the issue and not you. Let's see it. Can you do that? You think that's something you can do? Thus far you've dodged literally everyone on the Left here, you've ran from Gattaca, you've ran from Jigga, and you've ran from Colorado. Here, I'll give you an easy one - post the polls that said shifted overnight in your response to Jigga, I promise he's a lot nicer than me.

 

[TorontoGold]

I believe the thinking is you shop stories to the most friendly media first as that is where folks generally have the most friends/colleagues/sympathies.

So like a "Yo check this out", if I'm a friendly site to Trump wouldn't I try to downplay the possible story so it doesn't damage him?

 

[ulukinatme]

I’m hoping we can all look back at this thread one day and laugh.

Not gonna lie, when I saw Kim Jong Un topple over with the chili, I lol'd

 

[drayer54]

What's your reasoning behind it being pitched to Conservative media as it being unverifiable? Not arguing just want to know your reasoning, because I would have thought that if it was sketchy they would pitch it to the Krasstein brothers on Twitter or like MSNBC?

 

[ColoradoIrish]

I’m hoping we can all look back at this thread one day and laugh.

American politics is the greatest reality TV show we could all ask for

 

[Irish#1]

Problem for dems is it looks like plenty of republicans are voting early too. 90% of people say her name "wrong."

That's what I was referring to. The number of Repubs voting early is way up compared to Dems.

More Republicans are voting early, helping break records. Nearly 19 million ballots cast so far

With Donald Trump's encouragement, Republicans are joining Democrats at the polls to cast their ballots early this year.

apnews.com

 

[Armyirish47]

That's what I was referring to. The number of Repubs voting early is way up compared to Dems.

More Republicans are voting early, helping break records. Nearly 19 million ballots cast so far

With Donald Trump's encouragement, Republicans are joining Democrats at the polls to cast their ballots early this year.

apnews.com

More time to steal them!

 

[tussin]

Isn't "the story" this Epstein headline on The Guardian?

 

[Irish#1]

They just make themselves look worse when they try this stuff.

 

[ab2cmiller]

If I was an election official, the hat definitely can NOT be worn on the voting premises. He's arguing that the hat doesn't say Trump on it. It's his freaking slogan.

 

[ab2cmiller]

I guess I didn't realize that only 21 states have laws preventing the wearing or holding items that promote a certain candidate while on the voting premises.

I have no clue where the video was taken.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

I guess I didn't realize that only 21 states have laws preventing the wearing or holding items that promote a certain candidate while on the voting premises.

I have no clue where the video was taken.

I definitely thought it was a standard rule, today I learned

 

[Blazers46]

I guess I didn't realize that only 21 states have laws preventing the wearing or holding items that promote a certain candidate while on the voting premises.

I have no clue where the video was taken.

clermont county is Ohio.

In 21 States, Your Polling Place Attire Could Prevent You From Voting

Read more here.

www.democracydocket.com

And doesn’t appear to ban slogans even in the 21 states

These states’ electioneering laws prohibit people from wearing anything that displays a political party, candidate name or ballot issue

 

[ColoradoIrish]

He commissioned lol, I’m just being a pedantic dickhead. But there is a pretty big difference between enlisting and commissioning, both in what your actual job is, the realities of your day to day, and culturally where your likely to have come from and how you were generally raised. Historically military commissions were things handed out to the children of the elites (legacy of that still today as you need a congressional nomination to attend a service academy) but it’s not quite the same today. The Army Officer’s guide in the late 1800s said ““Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear considerable watching.””

Fair enough. I'm just a civilian, so I can admit I'm a little naive, I viewed anyone entering the military post the draft in similar fashion. Obviously there's a difference between going the academies/officer route vs straight up enlisting, and I didn't mean to offend anyone by my comment.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

clermont county is Ohio.

In 21 States, Your Polling Place Attire Could Prevent You From Voting

Read more here.

www.democracydocket.com

And doesn’t appear to ban slogans even in the 21 states

Very interesting, thanks for sharing

 

[NDVirginia19]

Fair enough. I'm just a civilian, so I can admit I'm a little naive, I viewed anyone entering the military post the draft in similar fashion. Obviously there's a difference between going the academies/officer route vs straight up enlisting, and I didn't mean to offend anyone by my comment.

When you generally think of the kind of person that joins the military for a future political career or to give them that bona fides, it's generally the well-to-do type that commissions and then swiftly gets out. Officers in the military get paid pretty well and it's usually a much more transferable skill (leadership and management and such) to getting into a good civilian career post-military. Dudes don't enlist in the marine corps post high school during GWOT with the thought "Wow this will set up my post military political career nicely". When you look at all of our Presidents that have served in the military, all have been officers with the exception of James Buchanon serving as a private during the war of 1812.

 

[ab2cmiller]

It looks like Ohio's law is a bit vague simply stating you can't "engage in any kind of election campaigning" within the restricted area. So I guess you have to define "election campaigning".

Link to some guidance for poll workers in Hamilton County, Ohio so I'm assuming that Clermont County would have similar guidance.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.eac.gov/sites/default/files/2024-05/2023_Hamilton_County_OH_PollWorkers_508.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjFqq_zmKeJAxXTG9AFHe-2APAQFnoECBUQAQ&usg=AOvVaw39V5fbOF4dOf_Qs_XuNm2I

The following is not allowed in the polling place or surrounding neutral zone:
1.Attire and paraphernalia displaying the name of a political party
2.Attire and paraphernalia displaying the name of a candidate
3.Attire and paraphernalia demonstrating support of or opposition to a ballot question or issue on the ballot
4.If a voter refuses to remove or cover up prohibited campaign attire or paraphernalia, the voter must be allowed to vote if the voter is entitled to do so. .................Even though particular attire may be viewed by some as a political statement, if it does not include the name of a can-didate or a political party, or advocate for or against a ballot question or issue, it should be allowed. PEOs are held to a higher standard and should never display attire which could be portrayed political in nature. If questions arise about campaign activity, contact the Help Desk.

 

[RDU Irish]

Hey @RDU Irish. You gettin’ a big ol’ erection with all the “Trump is Hitler” talk?

What was it again that has you so convinced I am a Nazi? I appreciate that calling out mental illness for what it is and refusing to celebrate degeneracy ticks you off but I would love to understand what unhinged you so badly --- mainly so I can do it again. LOL

 

[IrishLax]

They just make themselves look worse when they try this stuff.

Isn't there actually a law against wearing stuff for a candidate to the polls? Or am I wrong on that? I thought it was covered under the same thing as not having signs, etc. at a polling place.

 

[IrishLax]

clermont county is Ohio.

In 21 States, Your Polling Place Attire Could Prevent You From Voting

Read more here.

www.democracydocket.com

And doesn’t appear to ban slogans even in the 21 states

Learned something new! Thanks for posting this.