Presidential Election 2024

[IrishLax]

 

[IrishLax]

I'll add a poll when we get closer to the day.

 

[yankeehater]

I'll add a poll when we get closer to the day.

Or when we know who is running for the Dems.

 

[Sea Turtle]

Or when we know who is running for the Dems.

If she starts polling badly, they'll yank her and have an open convention 😆

 

[IrishLax]

In the meantime I recommend people check out: 2024 Presidential Quiz

I am 81% aligned with Trump. My highest were Youngkin and Haley at 84%.

 

[Irish#1]

Or when we know who is running for the Dems.

It's going to be Harris. She already has enough delegates.

 

[Irish#1]

In the meantime I recommend people check out: 2024 Presidential Quiz

I am 81% aligned with Trump. My highest were Youngkin and Haley at 84%.

I showed 81% with Trump as well.

 

[dublinirish]

20 mil dead Boomers and 41 mil new gen z voters?? kinda wild swing

 

[ab2cmiller]

My highest was Independent Russell Cohen at 84%. I got Youngkin at 79%. RFK Jr. 76% Trump 72%. Harris 51%

After answering about half the questions, I finally figured out that the main purpose of the site is simply a survey site and information gathering. I clicked on some of the "other options" and I was like, how in the heck are they going to take my answer and match me to other candidates. I almost gave up, but I powered through because I was curious. Had I known the real purpose of the site to begin with, I probably would've never started.

 

[RDU Irish]

In the meantime I recommend people check out: 2024 Presidential Quiz

I am 81% aligned with Trump. My highest were Youngkin and Haley at 84%.

LOL - I am 35x more aligned with Joe Exotic than Kamala Harris. 87% Trump, 1% Harris/Williamson/Stein. Also 8x more aligned with the "Transhumanist" party than the Democrats. Hilarious. 91% Vivek was my top match.

 

[IrishLax]

20 mil dead Boomers and 41 mil new gen z voters?? kinda wild swing

While the demographics are accurate the Left has ceded ground with young people (particularly young men) and minorities since 2016. This is mainly due to divisive and unpopular social stances.

Accordingly, it is unlikely that there are any inherent advantages for the Democrats in the states that matter for them, and the argument could be made that it’s the opposite.

 

[TracyGraham]

20 mil dead Boomers and 41 mil new gen z voters?? kinda wild swing

Ok, but are we accounting for all the people that turned 30+, woke up, and realized that the liberal path was the wrong path. It's a cliche but it exists for a reason. I'm assuming there were a whole lot of those in the past 8 years. Can't imagine there are relative too many people that go in the opposite direction(reach middle age and suddenly lean left). But I admire the confidence...

If anything, I think the left is in serious trouble. Seems there has been a natural cycle where the young and women vote left, while the older generations, lean right. Every year, Americans have less and less kids and the elderly population will begin to dominate, resulting in a rightwing majority. I'm assuming this is why you hear the conspiracy about the left letting in illegal immigrants to vote, because they see the writing on the wall.

 

[Bishop2b5]

20 mil dead Boomers and 41 mil new gen z voters?? kinda wild swing

Been hearing this argument for decades. It fails to take into account the shift of views when people get a bit older and have more real world experience and begin to see things differently when they're in their 30s with a family, a career, more money, different priorities, and such. Each generation always shifts right to some degree at this point. It's like the old saying, "If you are not a liberal at 25, you have no heart. If you are not a conservative at 35 you have no brain."

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[NDVirginia19]

While the demographics are accurate the Left has ceded ground with young people (particularly young men) and minorities since 2016. This is mainly due to divisive and unpopular social stances.

Accordingly, it is unlikely that there are any inherent advantages for the Democrats in the states that matter for them, and the argument could be made that it’s the opposite.

Also something to consider is that while Joe Biden actually did considerably well with Boomers, Kamala does extremely poorly with Boomers. No way she breaks 30% there IMO.

 

[NDVirginia19]

In the meantime I recommend people check out: 2024 Presidential Quiz

I am 81% aligned with Trump. My highest were Youngkin and Haley at 84%.

I am 88% Trump, much to my surprise. I was thinking I would be in the 70s. I'm 90% with Marco, 90% with Ron DeSantis, and 90% with Doug Burgum.

 

[ab2cmiller]

 

[Irish#1]

Ok, but are we accounting for all the people that turned 30+, woke up, and realized that the liberal path was the wrong path. It's a cliche but it exists for a reason. I'm assuming there were a whole lot of those in the past 8 years. Can't imagine there are relative too many people that go in the opposite direction(reach middle age and suddenly lean left). But I admire the confidence...

If anything, I think the left is in serious trouble. Seems there has been a natural cycle where the young and women vote left, while the older generations, lean right. Every year, Americans have less and less kids and the elderly population will begin to dominate, resulting in a rightwing majority. I'm assuming this is why you hear the conspiracy about the left letting in illegal immigrants to vote, because they see the writing on the wall.

This is so true. I was a staunch Dem when I was younger. I don't remember when I flipped, but it was in that 30 range.

Welcome to IE!

 

[Sea Turtle]

This is so true. I was a staunch Dem when I was younger. I don't remember when I flipped, but it was in that 30 range.

Welcome to IE!

Probably when you started having responsibility. Having a wife, children, and owning land tends to do that to you. Having a stake in things rather than simply existing like somebody single in an apartment.

 

[TorontoGold]

Probably when you started having responsibility. Having a wife, children, and owning land tends to do that to you. Having a stake in things rather than simply existing like somebody single in an apartment.

I don't think that's necessarily true. The shift seems to be happening when people hit 50 rather than when people start having kids. Not looking good for Conservatives as millennials are 28-43 and the silent generation is dying off.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

There are people on this board responsible for my switch from left to what I'd now call moderate/right/libertarian/burn them all.

The rigged 2016 Dem primaries are what ultimately sent me searching for more. In that quest, I grew to understand the conservative counter arguments to topics, and ultimately, I found myself realizing that I'm actually way more Center-Right on issues and that for a large portion of my younger days, I was just being spoon fed left wing talking points.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

In the meantime I recommend people check out: 2024 Presidential Quiz

I am 81% aligned with Trump. My highest were Youngkin and Haley at 84%.

Have these questions changed in how they're asked? I remember back in the day, they had a slant that essentially guided you towards Dems. Some of it was my own bias (see previous post) but I remember people complaining about the questions and the list of answers and how they pushed quiz takers towards the Left.


80% Trump
76% Brian Carroll (whom I've voted for in the past election)
70% RFK Jr (who I would strongly consider voting for in this election)

 

[ab2cmiller]

I looked at my list again, I'm a 76% match with RFK Jr. as a Presidential Candidate. But RFK Jr is listed as a potential VP candidate. By his name on the VP list I'm only a 70% match. Something is screwed up.

 

[Sea Turtle]

I don't think that's necessarily true. The shift seems to be happening when people hit 50 rather than when people start having kids. Not looking good for Conservatives as millennials are 28-43 and the silent generation is dying off.

The problem is people aren't having children in the west anymore. They aren't even dating and getting married unnless their name is 'Chad' and the have the three sixes. They are all simply swiping right. One third of all US men from 18-30 are single and aren't even looking. Young people can't afford to buy a home.

Most women that age are either focused on career, social media or getting run through on Tinder. Who wants to marry that? And who wants to marry a 27 year old man baby who doesn't need to court and form a bond and a relationship(work), when they can swipe right and get laid that night? It's truly a crisis.

 

[TorontoGold]

The problem is people aren't having children in the west anymore. They aren't even dating and getting married unnless their name is 'Chad' and the have the three sixes. They are all simply swiping right. One third of all US men from 18-30 are single and aren't even looking.

Most women that age are either focused on career, social media or getting run through on Tinder. Who wants to marry that? And who wants to marry a 27 year old man baby who doesn't need to court and form a bond and a relationship(work), when they can swipe right and get laid that night? It's truly a crisis.

What's the problem? The problem with less people wanting to describe themselves as conservative?

 

[Sea Turtle]

What's the problem? The problem with less people wanting to describe themselves as conservative?

No. The problems are far worse and more existential than anything affecting my theory on becoming more conservative as your accumulate more responsibility.

This among many others:

 

[rikkitikki08]

Probably when you started having responsibility. Having a wife, children, and owning land tends to do that to you. Having a stake in things rather than simply existing like somebody single in an apartment.

So true, I’m married with two kids and a wife that stays at home with the kids while I work. I’m 35 and my views have drastically changed over the course of our kids being born, buying a house etc etc. The current economy is no longer suited for a one income household. It absolutely has made me much more conservative than in my 20s

 

[TorontoGold]

No. The problems are far worse and more existential than anything affecting my theory on becoming more conservative as your accumulate more responsibility.

This among many others:

What is the downside of people having less children? and to that extent, what aspect should a government have in promoting more children being born?

If we're thinking in the most utilitarian terms, wouldn't the cure for a population crisis to increase immigration to replace the shortfalls?

 

[ab2cmiller]

What is the downside of people having less children? and to that extent, what aspect should a government have in promoting more children being born?

If we're thinking in the most utilitarian terms, wouldn't the cure for a population crisis to increase immigration to replace the shortfalls?

The Social Security Pyramid scheme collapses entirely?

 

[TorontoGold]

The Social Security Pyramid scheme collapses entirely?

Wouldn't this be replaced with increasing immigration to have more W-2 earners?

 

[Sea Turtle]

What is the downside of people having less children? and to that extent, what aspect should a government have in promoting more children being born?

If we're thinking in the most utilitarian terms, wouldn't the cure for a population crisis to increase immigration to replace the shortfalls?

To the former, your civilization dying off. Not running out of workers or consumers. Basic Peter Zeihan stuff.

It's generally healthy for a country to have young men and women meet, fall in love, buy a home and start families. They aren't even meeting now, let alone having babies.

It's also very unhealthy mentally, emotionally and physically for young people today in the current state of loneliness for them.

I don't know what to do, government wise. I think China is trying some things because they are about to collapse by about 300 million people in the next 10 years. Germany is cooked. So are some other European countries.

Sure, you can just keep importing immigrants from other nations to fill the gaps but that's not fixing the societal issues. It's masking it.