Presidential Election 2024

[NDVirginia19]

 

[NorthDakota]

lmao the priorities argument is hilarious. Trump was on stream with Adin Ross. Guess that makes him unqualified? Or?

It certainly didn't reflect well on him.

 

[ulukinatme]

It's not ending her campaign, but the numbers are telling.

 

[NorthDakota]

It's not ending her campaign, but the numbers are telling.

Like I've said before, anyone voting for her really isn't voting for anything other than "not Donald."

 

[TorontoGold]

It certainly didn't reflect well on him.

Disagree, it allowed him to expand his reach beyond hyper online culture warriors to a younger audience. Owning the libs, but not some fat 40 year old guy from Ohio.

 

[Sea Turtle]

Obama def had his following but no where close to what I'm see with the trumpers. I agree it's bordering cult status

It's just different. Obama was a cult of personality to urban blacks and coastal white liberals. The 'Hope' poster/image was their Trump flag. It was everywhere. So was the Obama hand bag, shoes and other merchandise. I still see Michelle Obama Vogue/Redbook shirts, hand bags, etc.

Those people don't own trucks or have flags to mount them on. They just did it different.

I wonder if rural guys with trucks think that a Trump flag might attract the gals who are also Trump fans at gatherings? 😉

 

[Irish#1]

It's not ending her campaign, but the numbers are telling.

She is the master of the word salad.

 

[drayer54]

She is the master of the word salad.

Which Glock does she own that would NOT be covered in her assault weapon ban?

 

[Rocket89]

Why do all trump supporters have trump flags? Why do all trump supports with trucks feel the need to mount them on their trucks?

I've never loved/obsessed over a politician so I can't relate

Less educated, more susceptible to disinformation. Far more likely to live in a closed-off community and/or consume right-wing media coverage leading to a distortion of reality. That evolves to being hyper-focused on a small number of issues (i.e. immigration) where nuance and the complexity of federal, state, and local governments are neglected--and in many cases seen as the enemy.

Trump has slipped into that ecosystem. We're 3 decades into a targeted erosion of government as a core political belief. Trump has then also slipped into this ecosystem (which includes not-dumb people) who quietly or not so quietly prefer a strong man type of leader (to put it kindly) who skips over all those messy democratic processes.

Where Trump has especially succeeded is in creating a deep cultural identity for his followers. It's been said a million times, that Trump brings out the worst in Americans. He's WWE-ified the Republican Party. He provides license for millions to be nasty and filled with hate, yes, but also on just as important of a level he's provided a form of political entertainment that's enveloped so many people's identities. Which is why a bumbling mess of incoherent policies continues to have no tangible effect on the support from his core base.

I cycle a lot in some deeply red areas and I always wonder what's going to join the Don't Tread on Me and Confederate flags when the Trump flag inevitably needs to be replaced.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

Like I've said before, anyone voting for her really isn't voting for anything other than "not Donald."

I think it's a little more than "not Donald" but ya that's definitely the most simplistic version of it

 

[NDVirginia19]

I think there was definitely more to vote for in Biden (which I think was aided by the media cloistering him in his basement and running his campaign for him). He at least had an extensive record he could run on. Kamala does not have that, and any objectively heard her talk for ten seconds realizes she is not working with too much up there, and unlike Joe, she never really has

 

[Rocket89]

I think it's a little more than "not Donald" but ya that's definitely the most simplistic version of it

Yeah, Roe v. Wade and a bunch of other issues seem to suggest the election is far more than just the cult of personality between 2 individuals. No one should accept that Republicans have the right on all the issues and it's just little old crass Trump that is preventing people for voting for him.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Now we know how he got the job. LOL

 

[calvegas04]

 

[Blazers46]

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The Kyiv Independent. The no spin zone I’m sure.

 

[calvegas04]

The Kyiv Independent. The no spin zone I’m sure.

Well they are quoting NYT and not just making it up themselves

 

[Blazers46]

Well they are quoting NYT and not just making it up themselves

I guess. Just funny and typical.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Putting down the groundwork now it seems.

Between the man himself, his campaign and the party clinging to him they seem to be acting like they expect to lose.

 

[NDVirginia19]

Putting down the groundwork now it seems.

Between the man himself, his campaign and the party clinging to him they seem to be acting like they expect to lose.

..."if the Attorney General of West Virginia or the Secretary of State of West Virginia, in consultation with the West Virginia Legislature, determine that election fraud in any state was a major reason that resulted in a candidate for President obtaining a majority in the Electoral College"

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION 203

(By Delegates Ridenour, Mazzocchi, Dillon, Longanacre, Coop-Gonzalez, Foster, Foggin, and Steele)

[Introduced October 6, 2024; referred

to the Committee on the Judiciary.]

Requesting that the West Virginia Legislature shall not recognize an illegitimate presidential election.

Whereas, a Constitutionally valid government only exists and endures when elections are conducted in accordance with all applicable legal requirements and are free of violence or threats of violence, government manipulation, censorship, coercion, fraudulent voting, or manipulation of votes, election tabulation, and/or election results by any means whatsoever; and that

Whereas, in the 2024 election cycle there have been, to date, two assassination attempts on the Republican nominee for President of the United States while threats of assassination of the Republican nominees for president and vice president abound. The federal government, under the current Democrat-led regime, has utterly failed, and continues to fail, in a suspicious manner, in its absolute duty to adequately protect the Republican nominee for president; and that

Whereas, the Constitutions of the United States and the State of West Virginia require that only legal citizens may vote in U.S. and West Virginia elections, and that there is abundant evidence that non-citizens have been and are being registered to vote in the national election of 2024; therefore, be it

Resolved by the Legislature of West Virginia:

That, the sovereign State of West Virginia declares it will not recognize an election for President if such election is enabled by illegal or fraudulent acts; and be it

Further Resolved, That, the State of West Virginia will not recognize any election of the Democrat candidate for President during the 2024 election cycle if the Republican presidential or vice-presidential candidate is assassinated, seriously injured during an assassination attempt, incarcerated, de facto eliminated or barred from the ballot in any states, or is the subject of legal actions that preclude their effective campaigning; and be it

Further Resolved, That, the State of West Virginia will not recognize an election of a candidate for President during the 2024 election cycle if the Attorney General of West Virginia or the Secretary of State of West Virginia, in consultation with the West Virginia Legislature, determine that election fraud in any state was a major reason that resulted in a candidate for President obtaining a majority in the Electoral College. Election fraud includes non-citizen voting, vote buying, ballot forgery, illegal or illicit ballot harvesting, illegal or illicit discarding of legal votes or voter registrations, ballot miscounts, algorithmic manipulation of votes or vote tabulations, cyber-attack or manipulation, or intimidation. Election fraud also includes interference by any government entities, including arrests or prosecutions for apparent political motives, or other forms of persecution using legal or official processes, to negatively affect an electoral process, or a political entity participating in an electoral process, using unconstitutional, extraconstitutional, illegal, or otherwise illegitimate means, including those under the color of law or office; and be it

Further Resolved, That, the State of West Virginia will not recognize an election of a candidate for President, if the Attorney General of West Virginia or the Secretary of State of West Virginia, in consultation with the West Virginia Legislature, determine that election interference by the federal government, foreign governments, or other state governments was a key factor that resulted in a candidate for President obtaining a majority in the Electoral College. Election interference includes censorship, information suppression or manipulation, or other unconstitutional, extraconstitutional, illegal, or otherwise illegitimate actions by the federal government, foreign governments, or other state governments, either directly or in collusion with elements of the media, social media entities, information entities, or political entities; and be it

Further Resolved, Thereupon a determination by the Legislature of West Virginia, in consultation with the Attorney General and Secretary of State, of either the illegal or illicit elimination of the Republican presidential or vice presidential candidate during the 2024 election cycle; or election fraud or election interference resulting in the Constitutionally illegitimate selection of a President during the 2024 election cycle, the Legislature will be called into special session by the Governor to consider actions to preserve the Freedom of our People.

Further Resolved, That the Clerk of the House forward a copy of this resolution to the Attorney General of the State of West Virginia, the Secretary of State of West Virginia, and the Governor of West Virginia; and, be it

Further Resolved, That the Clerk of the House forward a copy of this resolution to the United States Congress.

 

[Irish#1]

Less educated, more susceptible to disinformation. Far more likely to live in a closed-off community and/or consume right-wing media coverage leading to a distortion of reality. That evolves to being hyper-focused on a small number of issues (i.e. immigration) where nuance and the complexity of federal, state, and local governments are neglected--and in many cases seen as the enemy.

Trump has slipped into that ecosystem. We're 3 decades into a targeted erosion of government as a core political belief. Trump has then also slipped into this ecosystem (which includes not-dumb people) who quietly or not so quietly prefer a strong man type of leader (to put it kindly) who skips over all those messy democratic processes.

Where Trump has especially succeeded is in creating a deep cultural identity for his followers. It's been said a million times, that Trump brings out the worst in Americans. He's WWE-ified the Republican Party. He provides license for millions to be nasty and filled with hate, yes, but also on just as important of a level he's provided a form of political entertainment that's enveloped so many people's identities. Which is why a bumbling mess of incoherent policies continues to have no tangible effect on the support from his core base.

I cycle a lot in some deeply red areas and I always wonder what's going to join the Don't Tread on Me and Confederate flags when the Trump flag inevitably needs to be replaced.

Remind us who it was burning and rioting in cities like Portland and Minneapolis?

 

[Irish#1]

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I guess it wasn't so secretly if people are reporting on it.

 

[calvegas04]

I guess it wasn't so secretly if people are reporting on it.

Not much stays secret when it comes to trump

 

[ab2cmiller]

The West Virginia resolution hasn't been passed. It was introduced by 6 people. I'm doubting this gets passed. I'm guessing it is just some fringe legislature members who are grand standing. From what I read there certainly was some frustration by Republicans that these members were wasting everyone's time.

If it passes, let me know.

 

[Blazers46]

The West Virginia resolution hasn't been passed. It was introduced by 6 people. I'm doubting this gets passed. I'm guessing it is just some fringe legislature members who are grand standing. From what I read there certainly was some frustration by Republicans that these members were wasting everyone's time.

If it passes, let me know.

We will let you know when the Ukraine media and Kyiv Independent tweets about it…

 

[Sea Turtle]

I guess it wasn't so secretly if people are reporting on it.

He has a 50/50 shot of being president. Of course he's talking to Putin. He's talking to Zelensky. He's talking to Netanyahu. He's probably talking to Iran as well.

'Secretly' 😆

 

[drayer54]

He has a 50/50 shot of being president. Of course he's talking to Putin. He's talking to Zelensky. He's talking to Netanyahu. He's probably talking to Iran as well.

'Secretly' 😆

I’m old enough to remember citizen John Kerry traveling the world to undermine the administration.

 

[Sea Turtle]

I’m old enough to remember citizen John Kerry traveling the world to undermine the administration.

That's (D)ifferent.

 

[Bishop2b5]

 

[Rocket89]

Remind us who it was burning and rioting in cities like Portland and Minneapolis?

Oh, let that wash away all the sins of Trump and Republican party for years to come! And please, make sure to update your carefully curated 'Both Sides' report card while you're at it.