Post-Game Thoughts: Georgia

[NDRock]

But alas, it doesn't have to be. We could recruit the shit out of fullbacks. Everyone knows the "fullback kid" from high school. Big chip on his shoulder because he's not fast enough to play tailback or tall enough to play tight end. Weight room hero. Wears no sleeves even when it's 10 degrees and snowing. Tremendously high football IQ. We'd land that kid every single year.

Completely agree with this. Why do we want to do the same shit every other offense is doing? We should be able to get the cream of the crop fullbacks and Tight Ends since not a lot of schools use them.

 

[woolybug25]

But alas, it doesn't have to be. We could recruit the shit out of fullbacks. Everyone knows the "fullback kid" from high school. Big chip on his shoulder because he's not fast enough to play tailback or tall enough to play tight end. Weight room hero. Wears no sleeves even when it's 10 degrees and snowing. Tremendously high football IQ. We'd land that kid every single year.

My high school fullback kid was an albino with a genetic disorder where he had no sense of smell. He had to load all of his food up with vast quantities of hot sauce to taste anything. Dude looked like Silas from The Da Vinci Code.

 

[koonja]

ND's tight end blocking is fundamentally unsound according to folks on ISD. Really bagging on Mack and Smythe. Said they gave up on so many plays. They reckon Weishar is the best blocker but of course, does not play. Also MF thinks Wright and Kmet should start and play now.

I've seen Alize drop enough balls to say let's let KMet play.

You can't blame several drops over two games on 'nerves'. Freshman come into CFB all the time. You don't think they're nervous? It's either innate bad hands, or lazy habits developed in practice.

Nerves. I'll give you nerves.

I was fooled by his awesome tweets. He talks the talk. That doesn't win games.

 

[NDohio]

ND's tight end blocking is fundamentally unsound according to folks on ISD. Really bagging on Mack and Smythe. Said they gave up on so many plays. They reckon Weishar is the best blocker but of course, does not play. Also MF thinks Wright and Kmet should start and play now.

Huge play in the third qtr. (I think) where Josh had made the corner with only one guy to beat. Of course Alize' ran right past that guy and didn't block anyone while that player made the tackle. If Mack makes the block there Adams is off to the races. It would have been our longest play of the night.

 

[woolybug25]

I've seen Alize drop enough balls to say let's let KMet play.

You can't blame several drops over two games on 'nerves'. Freshman come into CFB all the time. You don't think they're nervous? It's either innate bad hands, or lazy habits developed in practice.

Nerves. I'll give you nerves.

I was fooled by his awesome tweets. He talks the talk. That doesn't win games.

You shouldn't be able to talk until you pay Greyhammer his vbucks.

 

[koonja]

You shouldn't be able to talk until you pay Greyhammer his vbucks.

He's already been over paid. I gave him more than he had to bet, but oh well.

 

[Bluto]

they are ragging on Mustipher, Bars and Hainsey.

Bars and Hainsey did get their asses handed to them on a regular basis.

 

[Irishize]

This. He's not the guy. Find the guy.

I think he CAN be the guy if they play him to his talents. He doesnt seemed suited as a drop-back passer. IMO, he can thrive with Play-action & RPOs. He's not Kizer but its like they want to play him like Kizer w/ the benefit of a stronger arm.

Hopefully, theyll figure this out and put him in a position to excel. What they do vs BC should reveal a lot.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Something I realized, this was only Chip Long's third game against a P5 team as an OC, and one of the prvious two was Kansas. This seemed to show up in some of his playcalling. Hopefully we'll see him improve from this game just as his players will too.

This, he's inexperienced.

He's also on the sidelines, so I'm not sure how well he can even see the field (communicating with Tommy I suppose).

 

[dublinirish]

This, he's inexperienced.

He's also on the sidelines, so I'm not sure how well he can even see the field (communicating with Tommy I suppose).

Helen Keller could have seen that the run game playcalling was terrible lol

 

[connor_in]

Helen Keller could have seen that the run game playcalling was terrible lol

No she couldn't...she was blind...and is dead

 

[Irish#1]

Haven't read anyone's posts, so this just me.

1. Big Mike isn't quite the AA we thought he was. He was slow coming out of his stance, which caused him to reach with his hands, thus getting himself off balance and beaten several times.
2. G was bringing blitzes the entire night and was getting a lot of pressure. With the game on the line everyone knows you're going to pass. Why not move the back out to help Mike?
3. Wimbush is a work in progress.
4. Defense stepped up. While they weren't the 85 Bears they are much improved and should get better.
5. Our speed has improved, but G showed we have some room for improvement in the speed area.
6. O-line is good but also has room for improvement, especially on the right side.
7. As aggressive as the G defense was, I was surprised we didn't call some plays to counter the aggressiveness.
8. Tillery realizes this is his year.
9. I liked our heart.

 

[dublinirish]

Big Mike is pretty much who he was last year. He needs to be playing RT, i bet vbucks he never plays a down as a LT in the pro's.

 

[IrishLion]

While absent-mindedly and half-heartedly watching a game replay (still hurts), it appears the offense actually DID make some nice second-half adjustments.

There are yards to be had and some more space opened up than in the first half. ND moved the ball well early in the half.

Oof. Then Wimbush tries to go outside instead of sticking his nose straight ahead trying to get three yards with 8 minutes left. There went all the mo'.

I feel ill watching the game slip away with so many chances on the table, but I also feel encouraged that Long might be okay. We'll see when USC comes to town.

 

[Irish#1]

Big Mike is pretty much who he was last year. He needs to be playing RT, i bet vbucks he never plays a down as a LT in the pro's.

I think that's a safe bet.

 

[IrishLax]

This, he's inexperienced.

He's also on the sidelines, so I'm not sure how well he can even see the field (communicating with Tommy I suppose).

IMO he's in so far over his head it's insane... the good news is he can get better, the bad news is that all his on the job training comes helming this team. I just don't really understand the hire, nor do I even come close to grasping the concept of an OC not wanting to be in the box.

 

[pkt77242]

Haven't read anyone's posts, so this just me.

1. Big Mike isn't quite the AA we thought he was. He was slow coming out of his stance, which caused him to reach with his hands, thus getting himself off balance and beaten several times.
2. G was bringing blitzes the entire night and was getting a lot of pressure. With the game on the line everyone knows you're going to pass. Why not move the back out to help Mike?
3. Wimbush is a work in progress.
4. Defense stepped up. While they weren't the 85 Bears they are much improved and should get better.
5. Our speed has improved, but G showed we have some room for improvement in the speed area.
6. O-line is good but also has room for improvement, especially on the right side.
7. As aggressive as the G defense was, I was surprised we didn't call some plays to counter the aggressiveness.
8. Tillery realizes this is his year.
9. I liked our heart.

I think that lining up a TE next to McGlinchey to chip before going into a pass route would have put a damper on the speed rushes. That is how I would have handled it.

 

[pkt77242]

IMO he's in so far over his head it's insane... the good news is he can get better, the bad news is that all his on the job training comes helming this team. I just don't really understand the hire, nor do I even come close to grasping the concept of an OC not wanting to be in the box.

Yep. Long should be in the box and Rees should be down on the field.

 

[gkIrish]

IMO he's in so far over his head it's insane... the good news is he can get better, the bad news is that all his on the job training comes helming this team. I just don't really understand the hire, nor do I even come close to grasping the concept of an OC not wanting to be in the box.

ND is not a school where a coordinator should be training on the job. This is the type of shit that makes me wonder if people who are content or optimistic with the state of the program are sane.

 

[IrishLax]

ND is not a school where a coordinator should be training on the job. This is the type of shit that makes me wonder if people who are content or optimistic with the state of the program are sane.

Yeah, the whole thing makes no sense on any level. Allegedly, he was told he couldn't hire Quinn or any of his buddies. Allegedly. Not sure how much I believe that, but whatever.

They pay a ton of freaking money to a guy that has never called plays before. I don't believe he truly called plays at Memphis regardless of what any propagandist prints... at best, he collaborated with Norvell. It's Norvell's offense.

So we get sold on this guy as an ace recruiter, etc. etc. ... he's really a one year OC from Memphis who has proven nothing. WTF kind of hire is it to give him 3 years at over a million dollars when you know nothing about the guy?

I'm not saying Chip Long sucks, and that he won't be good. I just questioned the hire strongly at the time and he showed in a one-game sample size against a good defense to have been completely out-coached. If he turns out to be a failure, I think it's as much on the administration as BK. Which is the more concerning part to me... I know what BK is, I had hoped the administration was better.

 

[dwshade]

Likely wouldn't even be mentioning OC if Wimbush was a better decision maker and more accurate passer. This is why I was so hoping Kizer would have come back for one more year. With Kizer we win that game easy. I'm not down on Brandon but he's got to get a lot better with his game. Missed way too many plays which you can't do against a quality opponent.

 

[ulukinatme]

I think that lining up a TE next to McGlinchey to chip before going into a pass route would have put a damper on the speed rushes. That is how I would have handled it.

Would have been nice if we had landed Lorezno Carter too...that last sack wouldn't have happened.

 

[Free Manera]

Yep. Long should be in the box and Rees should be down on the field.

He's probably on the field because Kelly wants him next to him so he can tutor him. You know, since has basically no OC experience. This hire was so strange. You have the Elko hire which was pretty damn good according to most, then this complete head scratcher.

 

[ulukinatme]

He's probably on the field because Kelly wants him next to him so he can tutor him. You know, since has basically no OC experience. This hire was so strange. You have the Elko hire which was pretty damn good according to most, then this complete head scratcher.

We always seem to struggle with aggressive teams. We had the same problem against Virginia in 2015. It's like we don't know what plays to run in those situations. We rarely run a HB Screen, you'd think that would be effective (Adams did go for 30 yards on one Saturday if I recall, although we also had a bad pass on one just before it). A quick toss would probably help keep them honest too. It also explains why crossing routes were effective against Georgia. I'm no OC though, so who knows.

 

[IrishLax]

He's probably on the field because Kelly wants him next to him so he can tutor him. You know, since has basically no OC experience. This hire was so strange. You have the Elko hire which was pretty damn good according to most, then this complete head scratcher.

You know that whenever somebody tries to sell the guy you've never heard of with no resume as a "great recruiter" they're just trying to distract you from "we have nothing else good to say besides some decent stats from Memphis where it wasn't even his offense." Even crazier, ND gave him a 3 year deal with elite money.

 

[NDRock]

You know that whenever somebody tries to sell the guy you've never heard of with no resume as a "great recruiter" they're just trying to distract you from "we have nothing else good to say besides some decent stats from Memphis where it wasn't even his offense." Even crazier, ND gave him a 3 year deal with elite money.

So, it's the "she's got a great personality" for assistant coaches. Makes sense.

 

[ThePiombino]

You know that whenever somebody tries to sell the guy you've never heard of with no resume as a "great recruiter" they're just trying to distract you from "we have nothing else good to say besides some decent stats from Memphis where it wasn't even his offense." Even crazier, ND gave him a 3 year deal with elite money.

Jack and the admin can't be THAT stupid. Maybe the contract isn't guaranteed. Normally that would be a deal breaker for an OC worth this kind of pay day, but as you say -- he's prolly not worth it, nor was he going to get it anywhere else. So maybe if ND needs to get out from under the contract, they can do it without penalty. Here's to hoping...

 

[Grahambo]

I think that lining up a TE next to McGlinchey to chip before going into a pass route would have put a damper on the speed rushes. That is how I would have handled it.

Yup. Perhaps a rollout or two, maybe add in a hard count. They seemed to time up the snap pretty well as the game went on.

 

[IrishFanJMercy]

Part of me believe kelly was calling plays this game reason being hardly any tight ends got targeted?

 

[IrishLax]

Part of me believe kelly was calling plays this game reason being hardly any tight ends got targeted?

No.