Possible Miami Violations

[AdmiralBackhand]

Joseph Yearby committed to Miami.

 

[FLDomer]

Suspended Miami LB Eddie Johnson no longer enrolled in school | CollegeFootballTalk

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Rut roh!

 

[FLDomer]

Rut roh!

LOL, yeah no help to an already weak D. Some rumors are he got physical with a coach, but that is rumor so take it for what its worth.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

@BFeldmanCBS: New unethical, inappropriate NCAA behavior in Miami case surfaces, Miami Herald reports: http://bit.ly/Ygd9W8



RT @TheStateOfTheU: The Herald states that Miami will submit a motion to have the NCAA's case thrown out on Friday.

 

[PraetorianND]

@BFeldmanCBS: New unethical, inappropriate NCAA behavior in Miami case surfaces, Miami Herald reports: New unethical, inappropriate NCAA behavior in UM case surfaces; UM aware | Sports Buzz



RT @TheStateOfTheU: The Herald states that Miami will submit a motion to have the NCAA's case thrown out on Friday.

As much as I want to see Miami burn, the case should probably be thrown out (based on my limited knowledge of the facts. The NCAA really blew it on this one while trying desperately to hold on to what little credibility they have left and simultaneously attempting to take a bigger enforcement role (Penn State [subjectively]). At this point it looks like tyranny and I have a feeling that the camel's back won't take much more.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

@BFeldmanCBS: New unethical, inappropriate NCAA behavior in Miami case surfaces, Miami Herald reports: New unethical, inappropriate NCAA behavior in UM case surfaces; UM aware | Sports Buzz



RT @TheStateOfTheU: The Herald states that Miami will submit a motion to have the NCAA's case thrown out on Friday.

Motion to the NCAA or are they taking this to the court system?

It would be ironic if this ended up in federal court. The rules of discovery are incredibly broad and what Miami employees did or did not know would certainly be relevant if they're trying to beat enforcement on procedural grounds.

So if they do file suit that could end up giving the NCAA the subpoena power to move their case forward they were overreaching to obtain in the first place.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Motion to the NCAA or are they taking this to the court system?

It would be ironic if this ended up in federal court. The rules of discovery are incredibly broad and what Miami employees did or did not know would certainly be relevant if they're trying to beat enforcement on procedural grounds.

So if they do file suit that could end up giving the NCAA the subpoena power to move their case forward they were overreaching to obtain in the first place.

That's a big reason why NCAA sanctions are rarely, if ever, taken to court.

Even throwing out all the improperly-obtained evidence, the substantiated claims against UM are serious. Unless a bunch of other schools lobby for leniency, I can't see the NCAA dropping this.

 

[TheChosen1]

Saturday 6 p.m. Heat update;SI preparing UM/NCAA expose; Shapiro makes another allegation | Sports Buzz

Saturday 6 p.m. Heat update;SI preparing UM/NCAA expose; Shapiro makes another allegation



Please see the last post for a Saturday Heat update from the NBA FInals



With the University of Miami just days away from its hearing in front of NCAA’s infractions committee, two sources confirmed to The Miami Herald that Sports Illustrated is in the final stages of writing an expose about the NCAA and its investigation into the school’s athletics program, including not-previously-published allegations from former UM booster Nevin Shapiro.

Shapiro told SI that he used inside information obtained from UM coaches to gamble on Hurricanes football games, according to the sources.

Shapiro alleged that coaches shared with him information --- such as whether a particular injured player would be available to play --- in at least two games, including in 2005 and a 2007 game against North Carolina, which UM lost, 33-27.

According to a third source, the NCAA previously investigated Shapiro’s gambling claims but found no concrete evidence and did not make any allegations regarding gambling in UM’s Notice Of Allegations.

That frustrated Shapiro, who believed the NCAA did not adequately investigate his claims involving the matter.

In general, any school and involved coaches might be at risk of NCAA punishment if it was determined that they gave inside information to a booster with the knowledge it would be used for gambling purposes.

Shapiro was friendly with several former UM assistants, but it’s unclear which, if any, of the coaches will be named by Sports Illustrated.

It’s also unclear how the release of the story would affect the case, if at all. The NCAA might choose to ignore the SI report. Re-opening the investigation would seem unlikely, because the NCAA already has explored the gambling allegation and found nothing.

Shapiro had a serious gambling problem – he has said he lost $9 million gambling on sports. He paid substantial fees to a high-profile South Florida sports handicapper, Adam Meyer, for his advice on game picks.

Last year, Meyer agreed to return $900,000 in payments from Shapiro to a bankruptcy court trustee seeking to repay Shapiro’s investment victims, according to public records.

A UM contingent led by president Donna Shalala will appear before the infractions committee on Thursday through Saturday in Indianapolis. During the hearing, UM will defend itself and answer questions from the eight committee members hearing the case.

Five former UM coaches – Clint Hurtt and Aubrey Hill (football) and Frank Haith, Jorge Fernandez and Jake Morton (basketball) – also will be in attendance with their attorneys to respond to the NCAA’s charges against them.

UM, which already has self-imposed two football bowl bans, expects to learn later this summer or fall whether it will receive additional sanctions. After a hearing, the NCAA typically takes anytime between six weeks and four months before issuing sanctions.

Shapiro, serving a 20-year sentence for running a $930 million Ponzi scheme, told The Miami Herald last month that he would soon unleash a “Category 5 tsunami” against UM and implied he would make new allegations.

UM has been highly skeptical that he would cause the program any additional harm, based on the belief that he told the NCAA everything he had to tell in 2011 and 2012.

Before going to the NCAA with numerous allegations against UM in March 2011, Shapiro said he was angry that numerous UM people – including coaches and players – turned their back on him after he was arrested.

“I can assure you that this will not be the last of this story from my end,” Shapiro told The Herald recently, declining to discuss the allegations he shared with Sports Illustrated.

Sports Illustrated's timing on this story, which is expected to be released very soon, will be questioned because of the hearings next week. After all, this was the same magazine that once called for UM to drop football.

Two prominent SI reporters have been working on the story, and it will be interesting to see how much the magazine prints of what UM has dubbed Shapiro's "jailhouse tales."

SI also is expected to write about how the NCAA mishandled the case.

 

[Kaneyoufeelit]

Stop me if you've heard this before

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p>RT <a href="https://twitter.com/HeraldSports">@HeraldSports</a>: The NCAA is expected to announce a decision Tuesday in its investigation of the UM athletic program, according to a source</p>— Dan Wolken (@DanWolken) <a href="https://twitter.com/DanWolken/statuses/392355256895811584">October 21, 2013</a></blockquote>
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[ThePiombino]

Stop me if you've heard this before

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p>RT <a href="https://twitter.com/HeraldSports">@HeraldSports</a>: The NCAA is expected to announce a decision Tuesday in its investigation of the UM athletic program, according to a source</p>— Dan Wolken (@DanWolken) <a href="https://twitter.com/DanWolken/statuses/392355256895811584">October 21, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Bout effin time!

 

[IrishLax]

what do you guys think? Slap on the wrist or wrecking ball? The long deliberations make me think there will at least be some significant penalty whether it's scholarship sanctions or a bowl ban.

 

[ResLife Hero]

what do you guys think? Slap on the wrist or wrecking ball? The long deliberations make me think there will at least be some significant penalty whether it's scholarship sanctions or a bowl ban.

I don't think it will be harsh enough to really fit the crime (INSANE lack of institutional control) or be on par with what USC and PSU got. The NCAA botched so many parts of this investigation, I just don't see how they can throw a good punch at this point.

That said, I'd love to see the wrecking ball come out.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

They will get something similar to what OSU got.

EDIT: the long passage of time tells me this is basically a negotiated settlement with Miami.

 

[Irishfan33]

This whole thing has been a mess.
Just made the NCAA look even worse.

They'll get a slap on the hand and i'm o.k. with that....

They missed 2 bowl games already

 

[Irish#1]

Slap on the wrist and a promise not to do it again, unless the NCAA is ready to take a lot of heat.

 

[BGIF]

I don't think it will be harsh enough to really fit the crime (INSANE lack of institutional control) or be on par with what USC and PSU got. The NCAA botched so many parts of this investigation, I just don't see how they can throw a good punch at this point.

That said, I'd love to see the wrecking ball come out.

Agreed but suspect the NCAA will rule that having Donna Shalala as your president is punishment enough. Time Served.

 

[Irish Insanity]

They will get something similar to what OSU got.

EDIT: the long passage of time tells me this is basically a negotiated settlement with Miami.

Pops, I think you nailed it. The best part, it will all come crashing down amid a currently undefeated season.

 

[NDPhilly]

Highest Ranking in years, play biggest game in the last decade of the program in 2 weeks against FSU, and the NCAA comes down with their sanctions right now.

I love it.

 

[ickythump1225]

Honestly Miami might be the most out of control institution in college football...my god it's every couple years they're back in the news. So honestly they deserve to be gutted but they'll probably get a slap on the wrist.

 

[ickythump1225]

This whole thing has been a mess.
Just made the NCAA look even worse.

They'll get a slap on the hand and i'm o.k. with that....

They missed 2 bowl games already

Come now...if they were in line for BCS games the last two years they would have NOT passed on bowl games. It's easy to pass on the Skittles Taste the Rainbow Bowl or Cherrios Cereal Bowl.

 

[phork]

Double Secret Probation.

 

[ThePiombino]

Mike & Mike reporting 9 schollies and NO BOWL BAN

 

[Ndaccountant]

Mike & Mike reporting 9 schollies and NO BOWL BAN

They learned from others and self imposed bowl bans already. I see no issue with the no bowl. How long are the schollies reduced?

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

They learned from others and self imposed bowl bans already. I see no issue with the no bowl. How long are the schollies reduced?

9 schollies over 3 years.

 

[Rizzophil]

9 schollies over 3 years.

To clarify, does that mean that they can only have 76 scholarship athletes for the next three years?

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

To clarify, does that mean that they can only have 76 scholarship athletes for the next three years?

No only the third year

Year one: 82
Year two: 79
Year three: 76

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

Over $170k in benefits dolled out and all they get is self imposed bowl bans during ****** years and the loss of 9 schollys. Pathetic.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>This ruling will become the ultimate example of what we already knew. There's absolutely no incentive to follow NCAA rules.</p>— Pete Thamel (@SIPeteThamel) <a href="https://twitter.com/SIPeteThamel/statuses/392643886541459456">October 22, 2013</a></blockquote>
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[GoldenIsThyFame]

heh

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>NCAA stuck to their usual punishment chart, as you can see. <a href="http://t.co/ni74gZm1YX">pic.twitter.com/ni74gZm1YX</a></p>— Michael Citro (@11W_Michael) <a href="https://twitter.com/11W_Michael/statuses/392645163752755201">October 22, 2013</a></blockquote>
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[rtrn2glory]

If i were an urban fan i'd be irate...this is seriously turning into a principal monitoring kindergarten recess in regards to the NCAA