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Apparently not southeastern PA? Amirite?

Just messin'. Interesting read. Surprised to see Buffalo that high on the list.
I've heard Buffalo is actually kinda cool. In a hipster way. And the only people I know that have moved there came from Minnesota. Doubt you'd see too many from the south moving there.
 

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I've heard Buffalo is actually kinda cool. In a hipster way. And the only people I know that have moved there came from Minnesota. Doubt you'd see too many from the south moving there.

Just moved from there 7 months ago, I assure you that it is not cool.
 

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Apparently not southeastern PA? Amirite?

Just messin'. Interesting read. Surprised to see Buffalo that high on the list.

Buffalo: I would go for the chicken wings and GTFO

I knew Denver was growing like crazy (no pun intended), but didn't realize it was turning into a big tech hub too.

Not surprised to see places like Houston, Austin, Nashville and even Pittsburgh on the list.
 

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Hipsters.... Gross...

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From The Week's Brendan Michael Dougherty:

We’ve been waiting for years — where is the Republican alternative to ObamaCare? Well, there is no single Republican alternative to ObamaCare. The party that just charged back into complete control of the legislative branch has several alternatives to the Affordable Care Act. But it is sitting on them.

When Sen. Ted Cruz tried to force the party into choosing one strategy — full repeal before the ACA went into full effect, through a government shutdown — the party balked. Without a president willing to sign a Republican alternative into law, the party prefers not to give too many targets to their partisan enemies and the media. Instead the GOP is allowing its variously aligned think tanks, wonks, and strategists to toil away on all the available alternatives.

Presumably the next GOP candidate for president will choose one of these options; then the next great health care fight begins. Even if Scott Walker or Jeb Bush or someone else sells himself as a union-buster or schools-fixer, the debate will be thrust on him. For as Philip Klein points out in his new overview of the Republican options, Overcoming ObamaCare, even with the ACA trying to “bend the curve” on medical costs, federal health care spending is going to gobble larger and larger shares of the nation’s budget. “By 2024, one out of three dollars collected in federal tax revenue will be consumed by Medicare and Medicaid alone,” he writes.

Reading Klein’s excellent review of the material, I’ve never been more convinced that conservative health-care reform is necessary. I've also never despaired more of it actually happening.

Klein divides the GOP alternatives into three overall camps, Reform, Replace, and Restart. It’s worth going on a quick tour of them.

The Reform camp takes as a given that the GOP cannot pass a law that leads to lost coverage for millions who receive it through the various Rube Goldberg mechanisms of the ACA. Instead, the Reform camp, represented best by health-care wonk Avik Roy, works to keep the same amount of people covered but expands the market pressures within health-care exchanges by putting so many more people into them. Roy would simultaneously begin to push people out of Medicare and Medicaid and into the exchanges. It’s a plan for lighter regulation, but not a completely free market.

The Replace camp is represented best by: 1) the 2017 Project and 2) the Patient Choice, Affordability, Responsibility, and Empowerment Act (or CARE), which had been cosponsored by Sens. Tom Coburn, Richard Burr, and Orrin Hatch (Coburn has since left Congress). Unlike other conservative alternatives, these plans do not go after the great white whale of tax-free employer-provided health insurance plans, partly because it would be too immediately disruptive and partly because doing so may weaken resistance to a single-payer system. Essentially the “Replace” camp leaves most of the pre-ACA health-care system in place, along with some popular features of ObamaCare, but changes the mechanisms for driving costs down, concerning itself mostly with reforming the private market for health insurance. These are plans for overhauling only what was irrevocably broken before the ACA.

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Lastly, Klein considers the Restart school, embodied by Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, whose premises are a bit different. Jindal doesn’t worry about the exact number of people who will have insurance, saying that doing so plays into Democratic hands. Jindal’s plan puts almost all its emphasis on reducing health-care costs. Jindal would extend the tax-preferred treatment given to employer plans to all plans.

All the Republican-supported plans are attempts to increase competition rather than cartelize a more regulated market. Almost all of them would allow insurers to charge older customers more, and younger customers less, than is currently allowed under the ACA.

For a book that is so detailed about policy, Overcoming ObamaCare is a brisk read. But it highlights the difficulty of political reform generally. Reform is like campaign coalition-building, but much tougher. It is more united around a person than a set of policies. As soon as health-care reform became “ObamaCare,” spring-loaded partisan energies began driving down the popularity of its reforms. The same thing will happen with any of the proposals offered by the GOP.

But that’s not all. Any GOP effort at reform would bring out larger institutional opposition. One of the key differences between ObamaCare and the 1990s attempt at “HillaryCare” is that Obama effectively recruited the big insurance companies to his side through the individual mandate and the subsidy portions of his reform. Now those same companies, whose collective stock prices have outpaced the market since the ACA passed, are outwardly fretting about the “uncertainty” stemming from an upcoming Supreme Court case that may change or scrap the ACA. By "uncertainty,” they mean they fear their subsidies will go away. Similar dynamics are at play with hospitals and drug-makers.

If Republicans want to avoid the fate of other center-right parties in Europe that become mere budget-fixers on national health systems, they have to be much more united on their strategy than they are now. A gigantic GOP-led reform could lead to the same electoral disasters that befell Democrats after they passed the ACA, and fear of losing power could easily translate into a drift towards single-payer. ObamaCare required the incredible courage of President Obama, as well as many of his more awkward and embarrassing legislative buyouts, like the Cornhusker Kickback and Louisiana Purchase. Republicans are going to need a president and legislative leadership with at least as much mettle as he had.
 

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...The Reform camp takes as a given that the GOP cannot pass a law that leads to lost coverage for millions who receive it through the various Rube Goldberg mechanisms of the ACA.

Bwahahahaha! Great line. Does John Gruber = Rube Goldberg yet? Naah, Goldberg wasn't a criminal...just reveled in the inefficient.

Pretty balanced view of the road ahead.
 

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This review of Charles C. Camosy's book "Beyond the Abortion Wars" is one of the best reads on the topic I've come across in many months:

I was recently lucky enough to receive an advance copy of Charles Camosy’s forthcoming book to review – ‘Beyond the abortion wars: a way forward for a new generation’. In this book, Camosy masterfully traverses the ‘battleground’ between the ‘pro-life’ and ‘pro-choice’1 camps in order to show that this battleground is in fact no such thing. In fact, as Camosy notes, the majority of the American public actually agree on a middle-ground position on abortion. Despite what one might think from reading certain media outlets and Twitter wars, there is actually a large consensus in the public regarding abortion. This insight is deceptively powerful. By demonstrating the areas of agreement, Camosy is able to help guide us beyond the abortion wars to allow a way forward for a new generation.

I was excited upon receiving my copy of the book for the simple reason that I had no strong a priori position on the ethics of abortion, other than a middle-ground and vague conception that abortion should be allowed but certainly isn’t morally desirable. I started this book, then, as a mainly blank slate. Of course, it wasn’t completely blank, because I’d been exposed to various arguments both in favour of and against abortion, but the writing on the slate was very blurred and ineligible. The abortion debate is often centered around one’s ‘agenda’ – the agenda as a woman, as a conservative, or as a Christian, and so on. I had no (conscious) agenda in reviewing this book, nor in the conclusions of the book. I am politically moderate (in an American context), and believe in ‘God’ without identifying with any particular religious approach. I am biologically male, and moreover am both homosexual and celibate (I’m a hoot at parties, as you can imagine). I could never have an abortion, and the chances of me ever having experience with a partner wanting an abortion are practically nil. All this is to say that this review is written by someone who came into this book with an open mind, by someone who was not well versed in the topic, and by someone with no direct experience of an abortion. Perhaps some of the statistics and points Camosy makes are wrong. Perhaps he overlooks important philosophical approaches to the issue. Experts in the debate on abortion are likely to note issues that I did not, and I hope that this post will inspire debate on the points he makes. But, as an educated layperson with no strong beliefs in either direction, I found this a fascinating and compelling book.

In his first chapter, Camosy gives a variety of examples and statistics regarding abortion – many of which I found surprising and thought-provoking. For example, I learned that:

  • Roughly 1/3 of women have an abortion during their reproductive lifetimes
  • That 1 in 5 American pregnancies end in abortion, and in certain areas (like The Bronx, in NY), this reaches a stunning 50%.
  • 90% of those diagnosed with Downs Syndrome as prenatal children are aborted.
  • More than 50% of Americans who have an abortion have already had (at least one) abortion.
  • 1% of all abortions take place in situations where the mother is raped, and 1% in cases where the mother’s life is threatened.
  • Despite claims that pro-life policies are a “war on women”, it seems that women are more skeptical about abortion than men. For example a Pew (2013) study found that 49% of women said that having an abortion was not morally acceptable, compared to 45% of men. Similarly, a Times poll suggests that 60% of women are ‘against’ legalized abortion, while only 52% of men are.

Camosy highlights the laziness of traditional ‘pro-choice’ and ‘pro-life’ rhetoric. A 2013 CNN poll, for example, found that 25% of people thought abortion should be “always legal”, and 20% that it should be “always illegal”, but that nearly half of respondents thought it should be “legal in few circumstances”. Similarly, a 2013 NBC poll found that 26% thought abortion be always legal and 10% always illegal, but that the largest number of people – at 42% – thought it should be illegal except in cases of rape, incest, and mothers’ life. While around 2/3rds of Americans describe themselves as “pro-choice”, around 2/3rds also describe themselves as “pro-life” (Pew, 2011). Evidently, the debate on abortion actually reveals relatively substantial agreement on the topic beyond simple binaries of ‘pro-choice’ and ‘pro-life’.

After outlining the shifting boundaries of the debate on abortion, in Chapter 2 Camosy considers the question of who – or what – is the fetus? Camosy takes the reader through different approaches to this question, concluding with (what he claims is) the common-sense position that the fetus is a person. He notes that one could try and claim that a person is an independent human being (i.e. a fetus that could live outside the mother’s body), but this has somewhat strange implications because this means that personhood could be determined by race, gender, time period, technology, and so on. This would suggest that a woman living in London has a person inside her when she leaves Heathrow because available technology means that fetus would likely survive if it were born prematurely, but when she arrives in rural India she no longer has a person inside her because that fetus would likely die if born prematurely. This seems rather strange. Indeed, in other contexts we don’t consider dependence to necessitate lower status in other contexts – for example, a newborn infant or medical patient on a ventilator are not considered to be non-persons. He then notes that some people take a ‘Trait X’ position, saying that when a fetus has ‘Trait X’ it becomes a person and before that time it is not a person (enter for X what you’d like – e.g. self-awareness, capacity to make moral choices, empathy, language). Yet this also is problematic because if you pick a low trait (e.g. the capacity to feel pain), this means that other mammals become persons, but if you take a high trait (e.g. self-awareness), then newborn infants and disabled humans are not persons. Again, this seems more than a little problematic. In fact, this discussion reminded me a lot of the work of Peter Singer and animal rights, and Camosy’s agreement with some of Peter Singer’s work is evident in a few places throughout the book. Camosy argues that “the solution is to consider [as persons] all beings with the natural potential for ‘Trait X’” (p.56), where his preference for Trait X would be the capacity to know and the capacity to love. If fetuses are persons, then they deserve equal protection under the law – like other persons. Bringing the discussion back to the ‘abortion wars’, Camosy makes the interesting side-note that resistance to calling a fetus a person is often less about what one believes about the moral status of that fetus, and instead what one believes about the rights of women – which is why we call a prenatal child a “fetus” in the context of abortion, but a “baby” in the context of a wanted pregnancy. One doesn’t ask if the fetus is kicking yet.

In the next chapters Camosy discusses what fetuses being persons means for abortion. That is, saying that a fetus is a person does mean that killing them is always wrong. Indeed, we do think that non-controversial persons (e.g. normally functioning adults) can sometimes be killed legitimately – for example, in self defense.

“Every person may have equal protection under the law, but it doesn’t follow that every person has the right to be sustained and aided – especially when such sustainment and aid requires another person to take on a huge and devastating burden” (p. 57).

Camosy engages on a fascinating discussion on whether abortion should be considered as aiming at death, or ceasing to aid? Indeed, this is one of the main sticking points in many disagreements on abortion. On the one hand, ‘pro-lifers’ understand abortion as a direct killing of a child, failing to understand how this could be justified by a woman’s ‘right’ to her own body. Yet on the other hand, ‘pro-choicers’ see abortion not as killing but just refusing to aid, and so cannot see why one would deny a woman the right to choose. Camosy seeks a characteristic nuanced position. While ‘pro-lifers’ are right in saying that the overwhelming majority of surgical abortions are direct killings (evidenced by a consideration of what a surgical abortion consists of), the ‘pro-choice’ insight is also important, because some abortions are indirect and better understood as refusals to aid. Indeed, even on strict ‘pro-life’ Catholic ethics, Camosy argues, indirect abortion can be morally acceptable if taken for a proportionately serious reason – for example if the fetus threatens the mothers’ life.

In the fourth chapter, Camosy considers the challenge of public policy. Even if we think abortion morally wrong, does it mean that we should make it illegal? Might the criminalization of abortion actually cause more harm than good? Camosy discusses a range of – often competing – claims about the predicted consequences of changes in the law relating to abortion.

In the fifth chapter, Camosy discusses abortion, women, and feminism. This was a very interesting chapter, and I found his discussion of explicitly feminist ‘pro-life’ approaches fascinating – perhaps because I hadn’t really encountered any explication of that thought before. Camosy presents evidence that in some cases, the availability of abortion can be harmful for women because the ‘choice’ continues to serve male interests and can coerce women into choices they would prefer not to make. To quote Camosy, “more abortion choice does not lead to more reproductive freedom”. He then made the interesting argument that:

“Instead of trying to force women to fit into the impossible position of pretending that their reproductive concerns can fit into male-created social structures, we should force men (and our whole society) to acknowledge the important differences between men and women. Women can get pregnant and have babies. Men cannot. We should and can change our social structures to respect and make room for the reality.” (p.128)

With the 42nd Anniversary of Roe vs. Wade tomorrow, the time is ripe to consider new and improved laws on this issue that take account of the increases in knowledge we have obtained over these last 40 years. Correspondingly, and drawing on the insights from the previous chapters, Camosy goes on to propose what he terms the Mother and Prenatal Child Protection Act. Camosy suggests this as a national abortion policy that reflects the views of a large majority of Americans but is also consistent with the currently settled doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church. Of course, that this is consistent with Catholic doctrine was not a big selling point of his conclusion for me (as a largely secular person), but equally it did not cause me any concern. Camosy seems to derive his arguments based on largely unobjectionable secular premises, drawing on Catholic theology to support his points. In this way, his arguments seem quite convincing even if is not a Catholic – which is surely welcome in an ethical issue that affects people regardless of their faith. It would not do justice in the space allowed to describe his proposed policy in detail, and I highly recommend that you read the book when it is published. Put simply, though, the proposed Mother and Prenatal Child Protection Act has three key aspects:

“Legal recognition of the full moral standing of the prenatal child
Protection and support of the mother, including self-defense
Refusing to aid the fetus for a proportionately serious reason” (p. 134)

Camosy notes that the idea of legal protection for fetuses is hardly a completely novel idea. For example, in legal contexts other than abortion, the killing of a human fetus is understood to be homicide – for example, in the double murder of Laci Peterson and her unborn child. The proposed act has a number of features, including 1) ensuring pay for equal work, 2) removing barriers to remedying gender and ‘family-status’ discrimination in hiring and firing, 3) protecting victims of domestic violence, 4) ending pregnancy and ‘new mother’ discrimination in the workplace, 5) reforming of parental leave, 6) universal prekindergarten and subsidized child-care, 6) removal of adoption from the for-profit private sector and support for campaigns to remove the adoption stigma, 7) coordinated, systematic attempts to collect child support. 8) protection of and support for women at risk for coerced abortions and other violence.

Camosy ends by noting that:

“The Mother and Prenatal Child Protection Act is consistently and authentically ‘pro-life’ in that it refuses to choose between the dignity, rights, and social equality of women and their prenatal children. It also happens to reflect the views of a substantial majority of Americans, works within the framework of our shifting constitutional law, and is even consistent with currently defined Catholic doctrine” (p.158).

Overall, I thought this to be an excellent book and I highly recommend it. I cannot say at this stage that I agree with all of his points, because no doubt as people respond to the claims in his book I shall modify my views based on the new information. The greatest achievement in the book, to my mind, is his sensitive and nuanced discussion of what is an incredibly fraught topic. Camosy discusses both ‘pro-choice’ and ‘pro-life’ positions with respect and integrity, highlighting that the battleground of abortion is simply an illusion. The abortion debate is not a stalemate, and substantial progress can me made. Camosy’s book, I feel, is an important first step in making this progress and letting us go beyond the abortion wars.
 

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This review of Charles C. Camosy's book "Beyond the Abortion Wars" is one of the best reads on the topic I've come across in many months:

Wow...If it lives up to the review, it will be the first time I read anything on this subject that strung together five logical sentences...Thanks for bringing it up.
 

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Good for private property owners in general. Whats happening can't simply be looked at in the very specific scope of keystone...regardless of the motivations...I see it as a win.
 

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Nothing short of disturbing.

Not really happy about this myself generally from the right side of the aisle, but if you think there aren't guys doing it on the left side of the aisle as well (just without an article posted), I have a bridge to sell ya


Pence state-run news outlet will compete with media

Also disturbing, state-run media in the United States of America.

Weird that Indiana of all places would do this, but essentially this is what's been going on during the presidential administration...and you don't have to take MY word for it, do a rudimentary search and you will see that the WH Press Corps has been pretty outspoken about lack of access and things just being given to them instead of them getting to report on occurences.





OK...my political rant is over
 

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Not really happy about this myself generally from the right side of the aisle, but if you think there aren't guys doing it on the left side of the aisle as well (just without an article posted), I have a bridge to sell ya




Weird that Indiana of all places would do this, but essentially this is what's been going on during the presidential administration...and you don't have to take MY word for it, do a rudimentary search and you will see that the WH Press Corps has been pretty outspoken about lack of access and things just being given to them instead of them getting to report on occurences.





OK...my political rant is over

I can tell you for a fact that they are extremely limited when at the WH. They can only enter in from one gate and have a direct path straight to the press lobby and that's it. Anywhere else and they must be escorted and are never out of sight of the SS.
 

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Even if Soros is still another rich person trying to influence politics, his spending is nowhere near on the level of the Kochs. It's not even in the same realm and the comparison doesn't work.
 

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Even if Soros is still another rich person trying to influence politics, his spending is nowhere near on the level of the Kochs. It's not even in the same realm and the comparison doesn't work.

Sounds like your mind is made up before doing any homework or research. If you look at the money from Soros and a few of the biggest unions in the US, it probably wouldn't exceed the Kochs' goal, but it'd be in the same ballpark. While I can agree that there's too much money in these big campaigns, until something changes it's all legal right? That'd be like Purdue crying "foul play" because they don't have as big a recruiting budget as Notre Dame.

Side note: Money alone doesn't determine elections. Has a big influence, but Dems would've won in 2008 with less money than R's, and R's would've cleaned house in 2014 with less money too.
 
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Not really happy about this myself generally from the right side of the aisle, but if you think there aren't guys doing it on the left side of the aisle as well (just without an article posted), I have a bridge to sell ya

What if I told you that I think that level of donating by anyone or any corporation is absurd...
 
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