Politics

[Old Man Mike]

With respect to MJ12666:

"According to NASA's planning and development office, rising sea levels are the single largest threat to the Kennedy Space Center's continued operations," said the report, which also listed other historic sites across the United States that are threatened by sea level rise.

"Retreat is the way to go here, because you just can't like, get up and move. The infrastructure is too great here," Russell De Young of the NASA science directorate at Langley told AFP.

"They are tearing down buildings that are at the water's edge and building new structures as far back as we can against the fence of the property line," he said.

Dr. Russell J. DeYoung


Science Directorate
NASA Langley Research Center
Mail Stop 401A
Hampton, Virginia 23681-0001 USA

... educate me on this, please.


... if you cannot, then I'd appreciate not being publicly singled out with statements inferring my ignorance and by further inference that I am being purposely misleading. I offer facts relative to concepts in discussion not tagging them to specific people on this board. However, if you insist on getting personal, I'll bet that there are some who might want to speak to you on PMs.

 

[Bluto]

There is precedent. New Orleans

Actually New Orland isn't quite a "lost cause" yet. It would however, take a huge amount of resources dedicated to restoring the Mississippi River Delta to ensure the long term viability of that city.

 

[IrishLax]

Coulter: Any growing interest in soccer a sign of nation's moral decay

Holy shit balls... illogical, out of touch, idiotic, and subliminally racist. And people wonder why the Republicans alienate minorities.

 

[ACamp1900]

Ann needs to remember if she's going to try and troll people like that she has to at least be hotter...

like Michelle Malkin

 

[Rack Em]

Coulter: Any growing interest in soccer a sign of nation's moral decay

Holy shit balls... illogical, out of touch, idiotic, and subliminally racist. And people wonder why the Republicans alienate minorities.

It doesn't even make sense.

 

[Jebediah Springfield]

Coulter: Any growing interest in soccer a sign of nation's moral decay

Holy shit balls... illogical, out of touch, idiotic, and subliminally racist. And people wonder why the Republicans alienate minorities.

 

[NDFan4Life]

Coulter: Any growing interest in soccer a sign of nation's moral decay

Holy shit balls... illogical, out of touch, idiotic, and subliminally racist. And people wonder why the Republicans alienate minorities.

Your assumption that Coulter represents the entire Republican party is not only laughable, but extremely idiotic.

 

[GoIrish41]

By the time Obama got into office the worst was over. He made it worse with the "stimulus." Not my opinion. Numbers support this.

Bush spent half of the stimulus money before Obama was sworn in.

 

[Ndaccountant]

Coulter: Any growing interest in soccer a sign of nation's moral decay

Holy shit balls... illogical, out of touch, idiotic, and subliminally racist. And people wonder why the Republicans alienate minorities.

 

[Bluto]

Your assumption that Coulter represents the entire Republican party is not only laughable, but extremely idiotic.

What's idiotic is that in the past few decades the GOP has consistently fallen all over themselves to pump up people like this (see Rush, O'reily ect...). That piece was so stupid that I'm beginning to think she's an Obama and or Clinton double agent or something. Lol.

 

[MJ12666]

With respect to MJ12666:

"According to NASA's planning and development office, rising sea levels are the single largest threat to the Kennedy Space Center's continued operations," said the report, which also listed other historic sites across the United States that are threatened by sea level rise.

"Retreat is the way to go here, because you just can't like, get up and move. The infrastructure is too great here," Russell De Young of the NASA science directorate at Langley told AFP.

"They are tearing down buildings that are at the water's edge and building new structures as far back as we can against the fence of the property line," he said.

Dr. Russell J. DeYoung


Science Directorate
NASA Langley Research Center
Mail Stop 401A
Hampton, Virginia 23681-0001 USA

... educate me on this, please.


... if you cannot, then I'd appreciate not being publicly singled out with statements inferring my ignorance and by further inference that I am being purposely misleading. I offer facts relative to concepts in discussion not tagging them to specific people on this board. However, if you insist on getting personal, I'll bet that there are some who might want to speak to you on PMs.

No idea what PMs are but you have my apologies anyway. I wish you would have indicated you were quoting this individual in your original post. Assuming that the NASA individual is correct in his assessment of the situation, I am glad they are taking proactive action.

 

[MJ12666]

With respect to MJ12666:

"According to NASA's planning and development office, rising sea levels are the single largest threat to the Kennedy Space Center's continued operations," said the report, which also listed other historic sites across the United States that are threatened by sea level rise.

"Retreat is the way to go here, because you just can't like, get up and move. The infrastructure is too great here," Russell De Young of the NASA science directorate at Langley told AFP.

"They are tearing down buildings that are at the water's edge and building new structures as far back as we can against the fence of the property line," he said.

Dr. Russell J. DeYoung


Science Directorate
NASA Langley Research Center
Mail Stop 401A
Hampton, Virginia 23681-0001 USA

... educate me on this, please.


... if you cannot, then I'd appreciate not being publicly singled out with statements inferring my ignorance and by further inference that I am being purposely misleading. I offer facts relative to concepts in discussion not tagging them to specific people on this board. However, if you insist on getting personal, I'll bet that there are some who might want to speak to you on PMs.

I read what Dr. DeYoung stated about the rising sea levels and you should be aware that he said "this is not imminent" and that the forecast was estimate in sea level rise from "1980 - 2100". These are really important statements don't you think considering the how difficult it is to forecast the weather. Did you know the number of hurricanes hitting the US over this past decade is at it's lowest level since the 1850's (per National Weather Service records - 1850's are earliest dates listed) even though climatologists seem to constantly predicting increase in major storm activity. I am not saying that they are wrong, only that their record of predicting this activity is spotty at best.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Bush spent half of the stimulus money before Obama was sworn in.

"The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (ARRA) (Pub.L. 111–5), commonly referred to as the Stimulus or The Recovery Act, was an economic stimulus package enacted by the 111th United States Congress in February 2009 and signed into law on February 17, 2009, by President Barack Obama."

My guess is you're confusing bailout with stimulus???? Like your buddy BobD confuses student visa with illegal immigrant

 

[IrishLax]

Your assumption that Coulter represents the entire Republican party is not only laughable, but extremely idiotic.

Your inability to perform basic reading comprehension is not only laughable, but extremely idiotic.

OF COURSE Coulter doesn't represent the entire Republican party... the point is still quite valid, because it only takes a couple rotten apples to ruin the bunch. So Democrats can point to anecdotes like this article, etc. and it's hard for any self-respecting person disparaged by said article to affiliate with someone like Coulter even if they agreed with 90% of the Republican platform.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Coulter: Any growing interest in soccer a sign of nation's moral decay

Holy shit balls... illogical, out of touch, idiotic, and subliminally racist. And people wonder why the Republicans alienate minorities.

If Ann Coulter is the voice of the GOP then Van Jones is the voice of the Democrats. No one even pays attention to her.

 

[IrishLax]

What's idiotic is that in the past few decades the GOP has consistently fallen all over themselves to pump up people like this (see Rush, O'reily ect...).

This guy gets it. She's one of the most prominent Republican journalists out there, and someone the GOP has never shied away from... whereas the Libertarian Party and others have shunned her.

That piece was so stupid that I'm beginning to think she's an Obama and or Clinton double agent or something. Lol.

Actually just had a big discussion about that in the office LOL... "What if she's been a deep cover Democrat double agent this entire time? The most epic of epic trolls?"

 

[Rack Em]

What's idiotic is that in the past few decades the GOP has consistently fallen all over themselves to pump up people like this (see Rush, O'reily ect...). That piece was so stupid that I'm beginning to think she's an Obama and or Clinton double agent or something. Lol.

It is rather ridiculous. Coulter, Beck, Limbaugh, etc are closer to shock jocks than commentators. Do you think Charles Krauthammer would ever write anything this moronic? Hell no. George Will? Haha yeah right. Yet this group still has traction with the party. Most of the time I agree with their message but my God can we help them with their delivery and a little common sense?

Both parties will always have their share of dumbasses so we'd be splitting hairs to bash the Republicans on its as a whole. Bill Maher, though no an official commentator, regularly makes offensive statements regarding religion. It's the nature of the game.

 

[IrishLax]

It is rather ridiculous. Coulter, Beck, Limbaugh, etc are closer to shock jocks than commentators. Do you think Charles Krauthammer would ever write anything this moronic? Hell no. George Will? Haha yeah right. Yet this group still has traction with the party. Most of the time I agree with their message but my God can we help them with their delivery and a little common sense?

Both parties will always have their share of dumbasses so we'd be splitting hairs to bash the Republicans on its as a whole. Bill Maher, though no an official commentator, regularly makes offensive statements regarding religion. It's the nature of the game.

Yup. Which is why Democrats have been so effective in alienating the devoutly religious in many cases, because so many of their talking heads deliver wildly offensive and disparaging remarks at their beliefs/practices/way of life.

 

[Wild Bill]

What's idiotic is that in the past few decades the GOP has consistently fallen all over themselves to pump up people like this (see Rush, O'reily ect...). That piece was so stupid that I'm beginning to think she's an Obama and or Clinton double agent or something. Lol.

This guy gets it. She's one of the most prominent Republican journalists out there, and someone the GOP has never shied away from... whereas the Libertarian Party and others have shunned her.

She's not a republican or a journalist. She's a political commentator (stretch) and an author. She has nothing to do with the GOP. She stirs the pot with this type of shit and then sells a ton of books.

 

[Old Man Mike]

Of course the "imminence" of anything is important. The kicker in the sea-level rise science is, however, that it's almost impossible to reverse the heat absorption momentum towards expansion of the volumes, plus the inexorable melt trajectory [again speaking globally because that's what ultimately the ocean's all about.] Therefore the longer the deniers/don't-want-ers obstruct action, this internal warming of the ocean at depth increases, and the swelling of the seas is inevitable and larger.

As a teacher I always had the hope that people would learn the actual science of things before deciding that their [sorry for this following characterization, but it's depressingly true] streetwise "common sense" can be smoothly applied to matters completely beyond their apparent experience or understanding. In that hope I have been constantly disabused of the willingness of people to either really study these complexities, or trust the people who actually have, or at least admit that they really don't know what they're talking about and lapse into a little humbler mode until they do. ... and, yes, I've made quite a large effort myself to study this, and did so hoping that I'd find that it had very little chance of being true --- who the Hell WOULDN'T hope that it wasn't true?

But me "hoping" it's not true is not paid attention to by the truth itself. Therefore I'm stuck with something that I don't want, and which to me has within it many Moral responsibilities, which depresses me when I see the impacts growing across the very large array of things being seriously monitored [FAR more than just heat measurements], and I listen to the continued spreading of bad information bent on destroying any chance we might have to moderate these impacts.

I hate, but in some sense understand, the deliberate obfuscation of organizations with huge economic stakes --- but in my more violent daydreams I am not "kind" in my distribution of their body parts around the Solar System --- I feel poorly about myself for caring so much that I forget my Catholicism in those moments. What continues to stun my naive optimism about EVERYDAY folks though, is their constant spewing of poorly informed, or just emotionally-based, opinion, deriding people with differing views, making gigantic claims based on almost nothing concrete, and refusing to engage in anything like a learning experience multilogue with people who just might know more than they do.

I've, again, said too much, and given myself, once more, another lousy experience on IE.

It's time, apparently, for another vacation. I wonder if I can find where BGIF went and sit on a beach with him, and congenially disagree.

 

[Bluto]

She's not a republican or a journalist. She's a political commentator (stretch) and an author. She has nothing to do with the GOP. She stirs the pot with this type of shit and then sells a ton of books.

That is simply not true. See link below.

Columnist Ann Coulter headlines Young Republicans event

 

[Wild Bill]

That is simply not true. See link below.

Columnist Ann Coulter headlines Young Republicans event

Let me clarify, she has nothing to do with the GOP with respect to their policies, platforms or politics. She's conservative so it doesn't surprise me that she'd give a speech at an event, but that doesn't change the fact that she has zero influence on the party.

 

[phgreek]

Coulter: Any growing interest in soccer a sign of nation's moral decay

Holy shit balls... illogical, out of touch, idiotic, and subliminally racist. And people wonder why the Republicans alienate minorities.

I literally laughed until I was blue...

If she is serious, god help her.

on the old comparison of athleticism.... I'll probably get thrown out of the football fraternity for this, but Soccer players are infuriatingly agile, and they've got lungs and a real small window to recover. In small spaces their feet cycle so fast, its like chasing a chicken. Also, indian leg wrestle a soccer player that is your same size...(sometimes hard to find for football players) Core and leg strength are a little surprising.

on the "meaning" of the fan following...sometimes folks miss the individual accomplishments of players because the score isn't 22-21. I didn't know soccer until my daughter started playing seriously...alot going on, and it takes alot to be successful at your job everywhere on the field. But success is generally not marked by score. Once upon a time, when baseballs were wound, pitchers batted, no DH, and players were natural, you didn't see alot of fireworks...but the beauty of the game was strategy, and mental toughness...Soccer is clearly more taxing...but similar in that you miss alot if you don't know anything but scoring. Ann Coulter actually reminds me that we've moved from a cerebral appreciation of sport to mouth breathing ESPN highlights...and that somehow defines us...thanks Ann. If you want to draw parallels...baseball was largely appreciated in its pure form when the urban population was largely what...1st and 2nd gen. Immigrants. Its only turned to shit because of what? (not a statement of support for illegal immigration or anything happening related to immigration at present...just pointing out the folly in logic in this article that somehow soccer fan-dome represents a degradation and that is tied to some national identity) If anything, soccer fans give me hope people can think critically, and can have appreciation for something w/o instant gratification.

I'm not even going to address the political slant here...the article was silly, and it is similarly silly to ascribe its views to anyone but Ann Coulter...the blind partisan will always try...but I have a little more faith in people than that...

 

[IrishJayhawk]

To be fair, I don't think I know any conservatives who give any credence to Ann Coulter's words. They certainly agree with many of the things she says, but only the very extreme think she's very good for their side.

 

[Cackalacky]

She went full potato there. I think a long time ago, some liberal dude really crushed her fragile little heart. Probably an immigrant too... smh

 

[pumpdog20]

I love AC. We should make "soccer sucks" kids together.

 

[Ndaccountant]

I love AC. We should make "soccer sucks" kids together.

AC and her work is like one of those nasty ass bar sluts in college that would go home with anyone and yet, against all common sense, you end up back your place one night after many drinks. You hope she leaves before your roommates get home and you will never talk about this night to anyone. Even when you are in the clear, the intense feeling of self loathe is imminent.

 

[GoIrish41]

"The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (ARRA) (Pub.L. 111–5), commonly referred to as the Stimulus or The Recovery Act, was an economic stimulus package enacted by the 111th United States Congress in February 2009 and signed into law on February 17, 2009, by President Barack Obama."

My guess is you're confusing bailout with stimulus???? Like your buddy BobD confuses student visa with illegal immigrant

Absolutely right. I mis-spoke. I was referring to the bail out that was measured in trillions of dollars ($8.5 trillion I believe) and not the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, which I believe was $787 billion. Despite your assertion that it was money wasted, many believe that was beneficial to the economy.

 

[GoIrish41]

It is rather ridiculous. Coulter, Beck, Limbaugh, etc are closer to shock jocks than commentators. Do you think Charles Krauthammer would ever write anything this moronic? Hell no. George Will? Haha yeah right. Yet this group still has traction with the party. Most of the time I agree with their message but my God can we help them with their delivery and a little common sense?

Both parties will always have their share of dumbasses so we'd be splitting hairs to bash the Republicans on its as a whole. Bill Maher, though no an official commentator, regularly makes offensive statements regarding religion. It's the nature of the game.

Bill Maher and Coulter are very good friends and have been for years (at least dating back to his old show "Politically Incorrect" on which she was a regular guest). Two sides of the same coin.

 

[Ndaccountant]

Irony. By attempting to curb growing CEO pay via SEC reg changes, the pay of CEO's went........up.

This started in 1992 when CEO compensation came under file for what is "reasonable". In the mind of the public and activists, pay should be linked to performance. What has happened since then?

The Whys and Wherefores of Executive Pay - Harvard Business Review

More detailed knowledge that is worth looking at if you are interested.

• 1992 - Major Changes in Proxy Statement Disclosure Requirements.[6] In 1992 the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) substantially expanded the scope and detail of the disclosure of executive pay required by the rules governing proxy statements.

Comment: With greater disclosure and greater awareness of what executives were being paid, a "ratcheting effect" on executive pay occurred. According to many commentators on executive pay, executives, advised by expert consultants, became more aware of what their colleagues in other companies were being paid and pressed to be paid at, or above, the median of pay for those other executives. Boards of directors, wanting "above average" performance, felt they should pay above the average as shown by the data presented to them.

• 1993 - $1 Million Cap on Deductibility of Non-Performance Based Executive Pay.[7] In 1993 Congress enacted Code §162(m), which imposes on employers that are publicly traded corporations a cap of $1 million on deduction of certain types of pay to the CEO and four other top-paid officers (generally these represent the five most highly paid executive officers of the corporation) that is not "performance-based." "Performance-based pay," defined as pay based upon the achievement of performance goals, is excepted from the cap. Pursuant to regulations, stock options with an exercise price of no less than fair market value of the stock on the date of grant generally have been treated as "performance-based pay" and thus are eligible for the exception.

Many companies have chosen to pay over $1 million in non-performance-based pay (the most frequent form is salary) to their top executives and forgo the deduction. Other companies have designed their incentive compensation plans so as to comply with the performance-based exception from the $1 million cap.

Comment: Code §162(m) furnished executives with salaries less than $1 million a basis to push for an increase in their salaries. The ground: Congress had given its approval" of salaries up to $1 million. As noted above, many companies have elected to forgo deduction of salaries above $1 million rather than limit salaries paid to their CEOs and other senior executives to $1 million. Since 1993, salaries in many public corporations, especially the largest ones, have increased significantly and today many CEOs have salaries exceeding $1 million.[8]

• 2004 - Accounting Change: Expensing of Stock Options.[13] Effective for most publicly traded companies for the first interim or annual reporting period commencing after June 15, 2005, FASB adopted an accounting change with major impact on executive pay by requiring a charge against earnings for stock option grants. The previous accounting advantage (no charge against earnings) for stock options has been eliminated.

Comment: Since the new rule, corporate employers have tended to cut back the number of stock options granted but also have tended to replace much of the value represented by stock option cutbacks with other forms of equity awards such as restricted stock and restricted stock units.[14]

SEC Adopts Final Rules on Executive Pay Disclosure