Political Correctness thread

[IrishBroker]

That's what I mean, what the heck is ESPN doing? Does John Skipper think the SJW PC approach is good for business, or is he just injecting his own (or Bob Iger's) personal politics in the business to its detriment?

ESPN has gotten terrible.

I mean, their website is littered with political/social issues. I don't care where they sit on the issue, when I visit a sports website, I'm not looking for their opinion on social matters. Nor do I care what some idiotic athlete has to say on it.

I stick to Fox sports now...no political commentary(other than some Kap stuff recently). No social justice.

 

[wizards8507]

I stick to Fox sports now...no political commentary(other than some Kap stuff recently). No social justice.

That's exactly the opposite of the direction they're going.

Do you even Jason Whitlock bro?

FS1 has actually made the decision to abandon the SportsCenter style "just the scores and highlights" programming in favor of more opinion- and personality-driven programming. Does this look familiar?

Why FOX Sports 1’s pivot to “Embrace Debate” is doomed to fail

 

[NDgradstudent]

FS1 has actually made the decision to abandon the SportsCenter style "just the scores and highlights" programming in favor of more opinion- and personality-driven programming. Does this look familiar?

I guess we'll have to see based on the ratings, but ESPN fires hosts for expressing conservative opinions, and Fox Sports does not (yet). Most sports fans are conservative and/or Republican, especially college football fans. So even if there is more editorializing on FS1 it is not attacking the opinions of most of its viewers.

 

[gkIrish]

NBC Sports is the only watchable mainstream channel not affiliated with a specific league.

I prefer NBATV, NFL Network, and MLB TV whenever possible.

 

[wizards8507]

I guess we'll have to see based on the ratings, but ESPN fires hosts for expressing conservative opinions, and Fox Sports does not (yet). Most sports fans are conservative and/or Republican, especially college football fans. So even if there is more editorializing on FS1 it is not attacking the opinions of most of its viewers.

I'm not defending ESPN's editorial decision making. I was just pointing out that IrishBroker is unlikely to find the safe have he's hoping for over at FS1.

NBC Sports is the only watchable mainstream channel not affiliated with a specific league.

I prefer NBATV, NFL Network, and MLB TV whenever possible.

I actually don't watch much (any?) non-live-game sports programming. The only shows I watch besides games are College GameDay and 30 for 30. I was shocked ESPN let "Fantastic Lies" on the air. I also think that the OJ documentary was very well balanced.

 

[ACamp1900]

I actually don't watch much (any?) non-live-game sports programming. The only shows I watch besides games are College GameDay and 30 for 30. I was shocked ESPN let "Fantastic Lies" on the air.

All day this... last sentence taken out purposely.

 

[wizards8507]

Lil Wayne: ‘I’ve never dealt with racism’ | TheHill

 

[IrishBroker]

That's exactly the opposite of the direction they're going.

Do you even Jason Whitlock bro?

FS1 has actually made the decision to abandon the SportsCenter style "just the scores and highlights" programming in favor of more opinion- and personality-driven programming. Does this look familiar?

Why FOX Sports 1’s pivot to “Embrace Debate” is doomed to fail

Providing opinion on sports topics, is different. I don't care the format.

Also, at least I get opposing views. And not progressive BS shoved down my throat.

 

[IrishBroker]

Lil Wayne: ‘I’ve never dealt with racism’ | TheHill

And I'm betting he's like most. It's just the racism we see is on 900 channels, 24/7 and called "the norm".

 

[Legacy]

I'm sure the NC legislators got some opinions from businessmen, maybe even BoA's CEO Brian Moynihan, about how passing HB2 could possibly impact business in NC. They also had the response to Indiana's Religious Freedom Restoration Act as another example. I doubt there is much hand-wringing about unintended consequences. The law represents a stance in what they believe, which will be litigated.

That is the same stance the ACC Presidents have taken.

“As members of the Atlantic Coast Conference, the ACC Council of Presidents reaffirmed our collective commitment to uphold the values of equality, diversity, inclusion and non-discrimination. Every one of our 15 universities is strongly committed to these values and therefore, we will continue to host ACC Championships at campus sites. We believe North Carolina House Bill 2 is inconsistent with these values, and as a result, we will relocate all neutral site championships for the 2016-17 academic year. All locations will be announced in the future from the conference office.”

HB2 is inconsistent with the core values of the ACC universities. But, as John Swofford said:

“The ACC Council of Presidents made it clear that the core values of this league are of the utmost importance, and the opposition to any form of discrimination is paramount. Today’s decision is one of principle, and while this decision is the right one, we recognize there will be individuals and communities that are supportive of our values as well as our championship sites that will be negatively affected. Hopefully, there will be opportunities beyond 2016-17 for North Carolina neutral sites to be awarded championships.”

With three NC universities, others in surrounding states, and ties to the Charlotte community, the decision was undoubtedly not an simple one, but, in the end, "reaffirmed our collective commitment to uphold the values of equality, diversity, inclusion and non-discrimination."

 

[NDgradstudent]

HB2 is inconsistent with the core values of the ACC universities.

No woman could be President of Notre Dame. Isn't that inconsistent with the "core value" of "non-discrimination"?

 

[Legacy]

No woman could be President of Notre Dame. Isn't that inconsistent with the "core value" of "non-discrimination"?

Perhaps. No woman can be Pope. Are you saying the Catholic Church is inherently discriminatory?

 

[NDgradstudent]

Perhaps. No woman can be Pope. Are you saying the Catholic Church is inherently discriminatory?

No, I'm saying the ACC is all about $$$ and that they are posturing to get attention from ESPN.

 

[Legacy]

No, I'm saying the ACC is all about $$$ and that they are posturing to get attention from ESPN.

You feel that their Council of ACC Presidents' statement of principle about the shared values of their institutions is a smokescreen for "getting the attention" of a sports network, whose viewership might be counter to ESPN's stance on HB2 - and, arguably, to that viewership in ACC areas?

 

[NDgradstudent]

You feel that their Council of ACC Presidents' statement of principle about the shared values of their institutions is a smokescreen for "getting the attention" of a sports network, whose viewership might be counter to ESPN's stance on HB2 - and, arguably, to that viewership in ACC areas?

Well, do you think the ACC would be doing this if ESPN didn't want it? Because I don't.

 

[Legacy]

Well, do you think the ACC would be doing this if ESPN didn't want it? Because I don't.

Again, you don't think the ACC Council of Presidents is not expressing a statement of principle for their institutions? You think that this statement and their withdrawal of the ACC Championship Game from Charlotte is all about getting some money from ESPN over sports?

 

[IrishBroker]

Again, you don't think the ACC Council of Presidents is not expressing a statement of principle for their institutions? You think that this statement and their withdrawal of the ACC Championship Game from Charlotte is all about getting some money from ESPN over sports?

100% it is about the money. It always is.


This is one fact I've learned in my short time here on earth

 

[NDgradstudent]

Again, you don't think the ACC Council of Presidents is not expressing a statement of principle for their institutions? You think that this statement and their withdrawal of the ACC Championship Game from Charlotte is all about getting some money from ESPN over sports?

Let's look at the supposed "principle" at issue here.

First of all, it's obviously not the same "principle" of nondiscrimination for each of the institutions, because ND does not let women serve as President. But the other schools (save BC) would. Presumably they think it would be discrimination to forbid women being President. Right? So why isn't this rule being applied to ND/BC?

Second, these schools aren't letting men play on women's teams, nor women on men's teams. Why is that? If Steve Vasturia 'feels' like a woman, shouldn't he be able to play on the women's BB team according to this principle?

Any "statement of principle" here is wholly incoherent and nonsensical.

 

[Legacy]

Let's look at the supposed "principle" at issue here.

First of all, it's obviously not the same "principle" of nondiscrimination for each of the institutions, because ND does not let women serve as President. But the other schools (save BC) would. Presumably they think it would be discrimination to forbid women being President. Right? So why isn't this rule being applied to ND/BC?

Second, these schools aren't letting men play on women's teams, nor women on men's teams. Why is that? If Steve Vasturia 'feels' like a woman, shouldn't he be able to play on the women's BB team according to this principle?

Any "statement of principle" here is wholly incoherent and nonsensical.

You are not questioning the unison behind fourteen (plus ND?) universities agreeing to move their neutral site games out of NC, nor are you questioning their stated principles in each of their university's values.

You simply believe that in the case of ND/BC they are hypocritical of sexual non-discrimination by denying a Presidency to a woman. Can I assume that you believe that until every university allows men and women the right to play on the same teams that every university is an institution that de facto discriminates sexually.

Since those hypocrises are the basis for every university, none have an ethical standing to make decisions on where they can, as groups, hold their neutral site athletic games.

As for motivation, the ACC schools' purpose in this stance is purely monetary, you feel. Perhaps the ACC and ESPN are leveraging their championship game and any neutral site games to relocate these games to more financially favorable cities under the guise of HB2 objections. Have you thought about that?

 

[Domina Nostra]

https://www.yahoo.com/tv/sofia-vergara-named-world-highest-paid-tv-actress-173903495.html

Sophia Vergara was the highest paid television actor last year and made $43M last year. $20M more than the second place female, Kelly Cuoco, who makes about as much as the highest paid men.

The wage gap is a terrible, terrible thing. I can only imagine how much they'd make if they were paid what they are really worth. Sad.

 

[ACamp1900]

I wasn't really sure where the best place to share this was,... anyway, this happened.....

https://www.yahoo.com/music/isaac-hayes-didnt-quit-south-park-son-says-225624787.html

 

[wizards8507]

This is unbelievably insulting to actual rape victims:

A female student reports that she was raped in a campus residence hall room by an acquaintance this weekend while she was incapacitated.
*
Statistics indicate that nearly 90% of all completed or attempted rapes on campuses are committed by acquaintances.* Please remember that:

• Having sex with someone who is incapacitated (rape) is against the law and is a felony.

• Alcohol is the most common drug used to facilitate sexual assault.

• It is important for everyone involved in a sexual act to give consent to all aspects of the act. Consent means a clear and sober "yes," given freely.

• It is a myth that it can't happen to you.* Sexual assault can happen to anyone, regardless of age, race, class, religion, occupation, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, educational background, or physical description. Rape is never the victim's fault.

If you are a victim of sexual assault, you should:

• Preserve evidence.* Do not shower or change your clothing.*

• Dial 911 for emergency assistance or immediately go to the nearest hospital (in the Auburn area, East Alabama Medical Center located at 2000 Pepperell Parkway in Opelika, Alabama) to get medical care and request a Sexual Assault Forensic Exam ("rape kit").

• Report it. Notification options include:
*
* o Dial 911 (emergencies) or 334-501-3100 to reach the Auburn Police Division. The police are the only entity that can investigate a sexual assault for the means of criminal prosecution.* It is important for them to gather evidence as soon as possible.

* o Dial 334-844-4794 to report the incident to the Auburn University Title IX Coordinator.* The Title IX Office receives official complaints of violations of the university's Title IX Policy.

* o All survivors are encouraged to report the assault, but it is always the survivor's choice whether or not to do so.

Sexual Assault Survivor Advocates On and Off Campus (24 hours a day)

• Safe Harbor (on campus) - 334-844-7233 or safeharbor@auburn.edu

• Rape Counselors of East Alabama (community) - 334-705-0510

Resources for Survivors: www.auburn.edu/titleix

 

[greyhammer90]

http://www.irishenvy.com/forums/notre-dame-football/309083-mike-tirico-using-hail-mary.html

 

[ACamp1900]

I mean, obviously there is a job opening with the SF Giants media team:

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/g...n-incredibly-regrettable-tweet-132915078.html

 

[wizards8507]

I mean, obviously there is a job opening with the SF Giants media team:

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/g...n-incredibly-regrettable-tweet-132915078.html

 

[IrishLion]

Social Media specialists make stupid good money.

Gonna hone in on my craft and take advantage the next time someone at a professional team accidentally tweets porn.

 

[Jasher]

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[Legacy]

This is unbelievably insulting to actual rape victims:

A female student reports that she was raped in a campus residence hall room by an acquaintance this weekend while she was incapacitated.
*
Statistics indicate that nearly 90% of all completed or attempted rapes on campuses are committed by acquaintances.* Please remember that:

• Having sex with someone who is incapacitated (rape) is against the law and is a felony.

• Alcohol is the most common drug used to facilitate sexual assault.

• It is important for everyone involved in a sexual act to give consent to all aspects of the act. Consent means a clear and sober "yes," given freely.

• It is a myth that it can't happen to you.* Sexual assault can happen to anyone, regardless of age, race, class, religion, occupation, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, educational background, or physical description. Rape is never the victim's fault.

If you are a victim of sexual assault, you should:

• Preserve evidence.* Do not shower or change your clothing.*

• Dial 911 for emergency assistance or immediately go to the nearest hospital (in the Auburn area, East Alabama Medical Center located at 2000 Pepperell Parkway in Opelika, Alabama) to get medical care and request a Sexual Assault Forensic Exam ("rape kit").

• Report it. Notification options include:
*
* o Dial 911 (emergencies) or 334-501-3100 to reach the Auburn Police Division. The police are the only entity that can investigate a sexual assault for the means of criminal prosecution.* It is important for them to gather evidence as soon as possible.

* o Dial 334-844-4794 to report the incident to the Auburn University Title IX Coordinator.* The Title IX Office receives official complaints of violations of the university's Title IX Policy.

* o All survivors are encouraged to report the assault, but it is always the survivor's choice whether or not to do so.

Sexual Assault Survivor Advocates On and Off Campus (24 hours a day)

• Safe Harbor (on campus) - 334-844-7233 or safeharbor@auburn.edu

• Rape Counselors of East Alabama (community) - 334-705-0510

Resources for Survivors: Auburn University - TITLE IX

All good advice. Undoubtedly, freshman orientation and athletic department orientation include much of this as well as advice for intervening in attempted rape on top of parents cautions and teaching prior to college age. Counseling immediately afterwards often needs to overcome an individual's feelings of guilt, denial, and isolation. Guilt oftentimes can be for not proceeding with reporting a rape, the inability to collect evidence and knowing that the perp is still out and may perpetuate this with others due to lack of evidence from a rape kit. Also, many lawyers volunteer to monitor and advocate as well as inform survivors of the process and where their case is, and may assist in legal intervention.

After evidence is collected and the perp is in custody, it's outrageous that some states have such a backlog of processing those kits that the case is dismissed and the perpetrator moves on, sometimes to other states.

Where the Backlog Exists and What's Happening to End It

 

[wizards8507]

All good advice. Undoubtedly, freshman orientation and athletic department orientation include much of this as well as advice for intervening in attempted rape on top of parents cautions and teaching prior to college age. Counseling immediately afterwards often needs to overcome an individual's feelings of guilt, denial, and isolation. Guilt oftentimes can be for not proceeding with reporting a rape, the inability to collect evidence and knowing that the perp is still out and may perpetuate this with others.

My issue is not with the "advice" presented. My issue is with the continued insistence of the American Left on college campuses that drunk sex is rape.

 

[Legacy]

My issue is not with the "advice" presented. My issue is with the continued insistence of the American Left on college campuses that drunk sex is rape.

These criteria determine the difference between rape and consensus sex:

• Having sex with someone who is incapacitated (rape) is against the law and is a felony.

• It is important for everyone involved in a sexual act to give consent to all aspects of the act. Consent means a clear and sober "yes," given freely.

You can Google the two terms for more info on the distinction, especially if you are raising a girl. Of course, that's the defense a perp always puts up - consensual. Without the evidence, your daughter may be caught in a he said-she said situation and the danger is anger turned inward. Counseling and survivors' groups are so important.


Statistics about sexual violence

from above:

Campus Sexual assault
- One in 5 women and one in 16 men are sexually
assaulted while in college
-- More than 90% of sexual assault victims on college
campuses do not report the assault
-- 63.3% of men at one university who self-reported
acts qualifying as rape or attempted rape admitted
to committing repeat rapes

-- Rape is the most under-reported crime; 63% of
sexual assaults are not reported to police