Police State USA

[Legacy]

Portland

Portland

The city of Portland denied the far right, white supremacist group Proud Boys a permit to rally at a park where AAs first lived in the city. The city denied it because its large crowd estimate violated the governor’s emergency restrictions barring groups of more than 50 people from gathering to avoid the spread of the coronavirus amid the pandemic. Oregon announced on Thursday that they had the highest positive coronavirus count since mid-August.

The permit estimated the crowd on Saturday to be 2,000 to 10,000 people. A recent estimate by Proud Boys spokesman says it will be 20,000.

In Florida, Enrique Tarrio, international chair of the Proud Boys, said, before boarding a plane, his group didn’t expect to receive the permit but is continuing with its plans to demonstrate at Delta Park. Antifa will hold a much smaller gathering three miles away. Those typically attract a few hundred. Portland Police plan to keep the two groups separate. They've asked for help from the Oregon State Police who say they are reluctant to send their officers due to the wildfires. Nearby communities PDs have asked to lend assistance but have not responded.

The Proud Boys rally is labeled "End Domestic Terrorism". Trump has said he will deny federal funds to Portland because it is an anarchist city. The Proud Boys and the groups and individuals who they attract to the rallies typically come armed from nearby towns, carry other weapons and use pepper spray.

Proud Boys founder, Gavin McInnes, has said violence is “a really effective way to solve problems” and have instigated violent confrontations in cities across America.

Groups from outside the city and from other states will also gather for the rally and join them. Delta Park straddles Interstate 5, between the Columbia Slough on the south and the Columbia River on the north in the North Portland.

 

[ACamp1900]

L.O.L.

 

[NorthDakota]

Sorry but that's an absolute skate-by to me. I agree that the bigger issue is the policy of granting a no knock warrant, and that public calls for arresting the cops by most politicians is a "bread and circuses" move, but the underlying motivation of an act being self-serving doesn't mean the act is wrong.

The facts, with as little or as much spin as you would like, indicate that the cops were, at the very least, negligent in discharging their firearms into a dark apartment without knowing who or what they were aiming at. If I'm negligent with a firearm and kill a bystander I get charged with manslaughter or 2nd degree murder.

If you are firing upon someone who shot at you, doesn't that smooth things over quite a bit though?

In criminal law class, I vaguely recall a discussion about a dude who shot 4 guys in a NY subway car, and got off on self defense. I THIINK someone asked what would have happened had he accidentally shot and killed a bystander in the process and our professor felt pretty confident that he'd have likely still been fine because his use of force had been justified.

I could be wrong or misremembering or she could have been wrong...or the facts of the case are just different and lead to different outcomes.

All around, sad deal. Hopefully the police don't use these practices in the future if alternatives are available.

 

[IrishLax]

Quality shitpost --
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Republicans: Try to break into my house and you’ll be met with the end of a revolver.<br><br>Also republicans: Well, if Breanna Taylor’s boyfriend hadn’t shot at people breaking down the door it wouldn’t have been an issue.</p>— Kris &#55357;&#56443; (@ParkListKris) <a href="https://twitter.com/ParkListKris/status/1308856484781002759?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 23, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[greyhammer90]

Charges were filed against only Hankison, who was charged with three counts of wanton endangerment for firing shots that went into another home with people inside. Had shots not went into another home, nothing would have been filed at all. So this really has nothing to do with returning fire into a dark apartment. Bottom line, and it's not a skate by, is when cops are fired on, they fire back. They were not found to be negligent in firing back.

When people arguing and protesting that the system is messed up because cops are permitted to act in this way, using the fact that no charges were brought against cops tends to not lend much credence.

If you are firing upon someone who shot at you, doesn't that smooth things over quite a bit though?

In criminal law class, I vaguely recall a discussion about a dude who shot 4 guys in a NY subway car, and got off on self defense. I THIINK someone asked what would have happened had he accidentally shot and killed a bystander in the process and our professor felt pretty confident that he'd have likely still been fine because his use of force had been justified.

I could be wrong or misremembering or she could have been wrong...or the facts of the case are just different and lead to different outcomes.

All around, sad deal. Hopefully the police don't use these practices in the future if alternatives are available.

Generally? No. Regular people would get at least charged by the DA due to this statute:

KRS 503.120(2) -

When the defendant is justified under KRS 503.050 to 503.110 (self defense statutes) in using force upon or toward the person of another, but he wantonly or recklessly injures or creates a risk of injury to innocent persons, the justification afforded by those sections is unavailable in a prosecution for an offense involving wantonness or recklessness toward innocent persons.

Not that this matters, because I'm not arguing the legalities. The point is that the legalities failed here.

 

[drayer54]

Quality shitpost --
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Republicans: Try to break into my house and you’ll be met with the end of a revolver.<br><br>Also republicans: Well, if Breanna Taylor’s boyfriend hadn’t shot at people breaking down the door it wouldn’t have been an issue.</p>— Kris �� (@ParkListKris) <a href="https://twitter.com/ParkListKris/status/1308856484781002759?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 23, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is generally geared more towards scenarios like this: https://www.kcrg.com/2020/08/31/mor...e-of-man-shot-in-morning-palo-home-invasions/

They should have made it abundantly clear it was police and they were there for an arrest. If you shoot at cops trying to arrest you, this is what happens. This a whataboutery stretch.

 

[ulukinatme]

This is generally geared more towards scenarios like this: https://www.kcrg.com/2020/08/31/mor...e-of-man-shot-in-morning-palo-home-invasions/

They should have made it abundantly clear it was police and they were there for an arrest. If you shoot at cops trying to arrest you, this is what happens. This a whataboutery stretch.

They may have been plain clothes officers, but the investigation showed they did knock and announce their presence despite having a no knock warrant. Taylor was an unfortunate casualty that didn't need to die, but at the same time I don't blame the officers for firing back when her boyfriend opened fire first. Any individual willing to shoot at police is not someone that should be free on the streets, they're a danger to others. It's an important lesson on the company you keep.

 

[greyhammer90]

They may have been plain clothes officers, but the investigation showed they did knock and announce their presence despite having a no knock warrant.

Only 1 of 12 non-party witnesses reported hearing an announcement by the police. According to Walker's attorney, the one witness now saying that he heard an announcement only stated that he heard an announcement in his third interview on the subject. In his second interview, that same witness claimed that he did not hear an announcement. The history of Louisville police in effectively announcing their presence before beginning to break down the door is also not good. A criminologist who did a study with the Louisville police department wrote, “Of the 73 search warrant entries observed, every entry involved using a ram to break the door down. Further, the detectives announce their presence and purpose in conjunction with the first hit on the door."

Taylor was an unfortunate casualty that didn't need to die, but at the same time I don't blame the officers for firing back when her boyfriend opened fire first.

You have a different opinion than Louisville Police Chief Robert Schroeder, who wrote to one of the police officers “I find your conduct a shock to the conscience . . . I am alarmed and stunned you used deadly force in this fashion.”

Any individual willing to shoot at police is not someone that should be free on the streets, they're a danger to others.

Weird take, since the only charges pressed against Walker were in the immediate aftermath of the event and were dropped. Walker doesn't have a criminal record, had a concealed carry license (which he didn't even need under this circumstance), and immediately called 911 after the shooting. The apartment contained no illegal substances or weapons.

Walker stated that he heard a banging on the door at 12:40 a.m., got up from bed with Taylor, grabbed his pistol and headed toward the door. Roughly 45-50 seconds after the initial banging, the door crashed in, and he fired. What a dangerous individual.

It's an important lesson on the company you keep.

I'm not saying she deserved it, but...

 

[tommyIRISH23]

Only 1 of 12 non-party witnesses reported hearing an announcement by the police. According to Walker's attorney, the one witness now saying that he heard an announcement only stated that he heard an announcement in his third interview on the subject. In his second interview, that same witness claimed that he did not hear an announcement. The history of Louisville police in effectively announcing their presence before beginning to break down the door is also not good. A criminologist who did a study with the Louisville police department wrote, “Of the 73 search warrant entries observed, every entry involved using a ram to break the door down. Further, the detectives announce their presence and purpose in conjunction with the first hit on the door."

To be clear, knock and announce doesn’t mean that if no one answers the door, the cops don’t go in. But yes, protocol is knock, announce presence, and after a reasonable amount of time, make entry while screaming police as you walk through the structure.

You have a different opinion than Louisville Police Chief Robert Schroeder, who wrote to one of the police officers “I find your conduct a shock to the conscience . . . I am alarmed and stunned you used deadly force in this fashion.”

Regarding what? Shooting at the person that was shooting at the cops? I don’t think he meant it to the cops who were controlled. The cop the aimlessly shot rounds off all over the place, yeah that was a very bad move.



Weird take, since the only charges pressed against Walker were in the immediate aftermath of the event and were dropped. Walker doesn't have a criminal record, had a concealed carry license (which he didn't even need under this circumstance), and immediately called 911 after the shooting. The apartment contained no illegal substances or weapons.

So what are you saying? The cops should’ve just taken rounds until the guys mag ran dry? And yeah all the drugs and weapons were at the other house tied to the investigation. From what I understand, they had substantial PC that this woman was involved in selling drugs for a upper level drug dealer who was already arrested. Believe it or not, drug dealers do move stuff around Routinely, especially after a partner is arrested. The PC is clear this woman was involved in the DTO. Not too mention a body was found in a car she rented (from what I’ve been told).

Walker stated that he heard a banging on the door at 12:40 a.m., got up from bed with Taylor, grabbed his pistol and headed toward the door. Roughly 45-50 seconds after the initial banging, the door crashed in, and he fired. What a dangerous individual.

Rule #1 - know what your shooting at. Any trained firearms person doesn’t shoot aimlessly into the dark. If you own a gun you assume the responsibility to know or learn how to responsibly use it.



I'm not saying she deserved it, but...

Did she deserve to die? Absolutely not. We’re the cops completely negligent in their entry, no.

 

[ulukinatme]

Only 1 of 12 non-party witnesses reported hearing an announcement by the police. According to Walker's attorney, the one witness now saying that he heard an announcement only stated that he heard an announcement in his third interview on the subject. In his second interview, that same witness claimed that he did not hear an announcement. The history of Louisville police in effectively announcing their presence before beginning to break down the door is also not good. A criminologist who did a study with the Louisville police department wrote, “Of the 73 search warrant entries observed, every entry involved using a ram to break the door down. Further, the detectives announce their presence and purpose in conjunction with the first hit on the door."



You have a different opinion than Louisville Police Chief Robert Schroeder, who wrote to one of the police officers “I find your conduct a shock to the conscience . . . I am alarmed and stunned you used deadly force in this fashion.”



Weird take, since the only charges pressed against Walker were in the immediate aftermath of the event and were dropped. Walker doesn't have a criminal record, had a concealed carry license (which he didn't even need under this circumstance), and immediately called 911 after the shooting. The apartment contained no illegal substances or weapons.

Walker stated that he heard a banging on the door at 12:40 a.m., got up from bed with Taylor, grabbed his pistol and headed toward the door. Roughly 45-50 seconds after the initial banging, the door crashed in, and he fired. What a dangerous individual.



I'm not saying she deserved it, but...

The one witness that heard the police announce themselves was also the one outside on the steps below the apartment, so the closest to the action. Their story jived with the officer's story. From Wiki:

"However, Kentucky Attorney General, Daniel Cameron, announced on September 23, 2020 that an independent investigation concluded that the officers both knocked and announced their presence at the apartment. This event was corroborated by an independent witness who was in proximity to Taylor's apartment, apartment 4."

The apartment didn't contain any drugs at the time, but there was a connection to Taylor because she was still friendly with her ex. At least early in 2020 they believed she could have been involved in his drug operation because she was receiving packages for him at her residence. Her car was also found outside her ex's home. There's a question of which group of feds initiated an investigation into monitoring the residence and that's still ongoing apparently. If she was receiving packages for Glover that's certainly fishy, especially if he already had a residence of his own...if he's just ordering stuff from Amazon why not just deliver it to his residence unless it's something sketchy he doesn't want tied to him directly?

As far as Walker, maybe he's not a criminal, but he was only released initially from jail because of Covid precautions. The State attorney dropped the charges because Taylor wasn't mentioned in the Grand Jury testimony, however it was mentioned he could still be charged at a later date if he isn't granted immunity which is what they've filed a motion for in June. The fact remains he fired first at the officers and it's his word against theirs in addition to the independently verified witness.

Taylor didn't deserve the die, certainly not. To insinuate anything else is just wrong. Wrong place, wrong time. The fact remains she had sketchy connections though that put her in those circumstances. She had to know her ex was still dealing drugs, and to continue to fraternize with him you open yourself up to certain consequences in our society. If she was no longer in contact with Glover, the police would have had no reason to come to her residence and Walker doesn't open fire. It's a lesson for people to be careful of the company you keep. As they say: "Show me your friends, and I'll show you your future."

 

[Irish YJ]

When people arguing and protesting that the system is messed up because cops are permitted to act in this way, using the fact that no charges were brought against cops tends to not lend much credence.



Generally? No. Regular people would get at least charged by the DA due to this statute:

KRS 503.120(2) -

When the defendant is justified under KRS 503.050 to 503.110 (self defense statutes) in using force upon or toward the person of another, but he wantonly or recklessly injures or creates a risk of injury to innocent persons, the justification afforded by those sections is unavailable in a prosecution for an offense involving wantonness or recklessness toward innocent persons.

Not that this matters, because I'm not arguing the legalities. The point is that the legalities failed here.

You seem to imply I'm flippant suggesting any type of legitimacy to the this particular legal process. I can tell you, I'm more libertarian on this topic than most topics. If memory serves, at least at one point, you were studying law, so a little surprised you're disregarding the legal, and favoring the emotional and anecdotal aspects of the situation. So let's ensure we're on the same page, and be specific.

From what I gather (correct me if I'm wrong), the shots that killed Taylor where fired by Cosgrove and/or Mattingly (the one who was shot), both who were inside the doorway. It has been suggested (by the FBI) it was Cosgrove's shots from the doorway that were the kill shots. It's also suggested that Harkinson's shots (he shot from the outside) were not kill shots (sounded like they were no where close to Taylor) and actually so off target entered other apartments.

The reason why I recapped the grand jury findings, is to point out you have two very different situations. You have an idiot (Harkinson) outside firing shots into an apartment who can't see where he's shooting (but is not responsible for the death). Then you have two officers inside the apartment, one covering for a man-down situation, who were the ones responsible for the shots that hit Taylor.

Next, KRS 503.120(2) deserves a bit of a breakdown too. It all hinges on two words, wantonly and recklessly.

The definition of wantonly is
"in a deliberate and unprovoked way"

The definition of recklessly
"utterly unconcerned about the consequences of some action; without caution; careless"

Based on the above, I'd say that Harkinson was not wanton (being fired on was provocation), but was indeed reckless. He was reprimanded and fired by the CoP, and charged by the grand jury. Given his shots didn't hit anyone, that's all he could be charged with. Not sure what else they can do to him? I hope he gets every charge they can muster, I just don't know realistically what he can be charged with.

Now to Mattingly and Cosgrove. We know they were fired on, so not wanton. The only question is, were they reckless. Mattingly, who has been shot, and Cosgrove who is by all accounts near him inside, are firing at the origin of Walker's shots, or where they believe the person who fired is. I'm going to assume the grand jury found they were within policy/procedure and were not reckless.

So question to you is, legally, what specifically do you see wrong with both situations above? You have one bad cop (Harkinson) who is reckless (and gets full legal consequence), and 2 other guys, one who got shot, who seem to be doing their jobs and following procedure to defend themselves?

Bottom line, it's the policy and law that needs to be changed. The problem was the raid taking place on a "soft target" should not have happened in my opinion in the first place. That's not on the cops themselves. If you subtract the idiot (Harkinson) who had nothing to do with the death, there would have been zero charges. Folks going all anti cop are missing the boat when it comes to what real changes are needed. They're not even on the dock.

 

[Irish YJ]

Only 1 of 12 non-party witnesses reported hearing an announcement by the police. According to Walker's attorney, the one witness now saying that he heard an announcement only stated that he heard an announcement in his third interview on the subject. In his second interview, that same witness claimed that he did not hear an announcement. The history of Louisville police in effectively announcing their presence before beginning to break down the door is also not good. A criminologist who did a study with the Louisville police department wrote, “Of the 73 search warrant entries observed, every entry involved using a ram to break the door down. Further, the detectives announce their presence and purpose in conjunction with the first hit on the door."



You have a different opinion than Louisville Police Chief Robert Schroeder, who wrote to one of the police officers “I find your conduct a shock to the conscience . . . I am alarmed and stunned you used deadly force in this fashion.”



Weird take, since the only charges pressed against Walker were in the immediate aftermath of the event and were dropped. Walker doesn't have a criminal record, had a concealed carry license (which he didn't even need under this circumstance), and immediately called 911 after the shooting. The apartment contained no illegal substances or weapons.

Walker stated that he heard a banging on the door at 12:40 a.m., got up from bed with Taylor, grabbed his pistol and headed toward the door. Roughly 45-50 seconds after the initial banging, the door crashed in, and he fired. What a dangerous individual.



I'm not saying she deserved it, but...

On the whole "knock" debate. We'll never know what really happened. I don't know, so I'll ask the question. Of the 12 witnesses, how many were outside at the time, and in what proximity? That makes a lot of difference. Also, why knock for a good amount of time and not announce. Why would you want to alert the people and give them time to get their guns if you weren't going to announce. Just doesn't make sense to me. Either A) the cops lied, B) Walker lied, or C) neither lied and Walker just didn't hear. Back to knocking and not announcing just doesn't make sense, I'm favoring B or C.

On Schroeder's comments on the termination letter. You're totally spinning this situation. Schroeder admonished Harkinson (shots did not hit Taylor) only for firing from the outside, not Mattingly or Cosgrove (who did fire the kill shots). You can't use his comments and apply it to the entire siuation.

I agree on the last comments (debating the Walker should be free) that Walker should be free. That is unless he heard the announcement. If he did, he's at fault. If he didn't, I can understand his situation totally.

 

[Legacy]

Let's say drugs were discovered as a result of the warant and break-in, which would be examined for the basis on which it was obtained. The Postal Service has denied the unknowm package had been monitored. The drugs and the case would be thrown out as fruit of the poisonous tree. The onus and legal responsibility here is on the police.

Similarly, the responsibility for the results of their actions falls on the police for any home invasion, which in this case resulted in the killing of BT and any injury both physically and psychologically to Walker. The police actions and assertions as justifications for their actions could be evidenced by body cams, which were not available.

The city has effectively acknowledged their liability in settling these cases and instituting police practices to prevent these type of incidents in the future. The justification for the warrant was illegal and evidenced shoddy and irresponsible if not criminal actions.

As a byproduct, any community outreach that police have made is destroyed. I would expect that as law-abiding citizens Walker and Taylor would have answered the door during the day when they were at home and been served the warrant in which no drugs would have been found. Nobody dies. The alternative is that police can act with impunity.

Walker had the right to defend himself. The City Councils of various cities including, i believe, Cincinnati and Atlanta are considering doing away with no-knock warrants.

 

[Irish YJ]

Let's say drugs were discovered as a result of the warant and break-in, which would be examined for the basis on which it was obtained. The Postal Service has denied the unknowm package had been monitored. The drugs and the case would be thrown out as fruit of the poisonous tree. The onus and legal responsibility here is on the police.

IIRC, the PS said they were asked by another LE group to monitor, not that they didn't monitor.

Similarly, the responsibility for the results of their actions falls on the police for any home invasion, which in this case resulted in the killing of BT and any injury both physically and psychologically to Walker. The police actions and assertions as justifications for their actions could be evidenced by body cams, which were not available.

Body cams would have brought clarity to entire situation. It's a no-brainer policy change that should be adopted nationwide.

The city has effectively acknowledged their liability in settling these cases and instituting police practices to prevent these type of incidents in the future. The justification for the warrant was illegal and evidenced shoddy and irresponsible if not criminal actions.

Settling a case is not acknowledging liability. From the CJ. "The settlement doesn't admit wrongdoing on behalf of the city or officers in Taylor's death, and it prevents Palmer from suing the city in the future.

The attorneys also must return or destroy any records obtained through the lawsuit while under court order to remain confidential."

I worked for one of largest corps in the US/world for 15+ years. We settled cases all that time without a thought of right or wrong. It was a literally pure mathematics based on the cost of litigation and other factors. In this case it was done with great speed due to current climate of things.

As a byproduct, any community outreach that police have made is destroyed. I would expect that as law-abiding citizens Walker and Taylor would have answered the door during the day when they were at home and been served the warrant in which no drugs would have been found. Nobody dies. The alternative is that police can act with impunity.

Walker had the right to defend himself. The City Councils of various cities including, i believe, Cincinnati and Atlanta are considering doing away with no-knock warrants.

This was not a no-knock warrant. We know from testimony that there was a knock. The only thing up for debate now is if the cops identified themselves along with the knock.

 

[Legacy]

The Postal Service did deny that they found the unknown package was drugs.

I used the words "effectively acknowledged". You don't settle cases for $12.5 million if you have a defense.

Yes, it was issued as a no-knock warrant. The police said they knocked. Eleven witnesses said they didn't. No evidence of recordings, body cams etc. Significant discipline needs to be made, e.g. suspension without pay, etc, to make it clear that these protect the cops and the city.

Whether the cops have been emboldened by Utah v Strieff is worth considering.

 

[Irish YJ]

The Postal Service did deny that they found the unknown package was drugs.

You're misrepresenting the facts, and issue. The warrant only stated that Taylor's address had received parcels for Glover. Not they had drugs in them. The PS only denied that they were asked by the local police, but did admit being asked by another law enforcement agency, whom they refused to identify. And we know based on testimony that Taylor did receive packages for Glover. IIRC, Glover said they were clothing.

Here's an article on the topic.
https://www.wdrb.com/in-depth/louis...cle_f25bbc06-96e4-11ea-9371-97b341bd2866.html

I used the words "effectively acknowledged". You don't settle cases for $12.5 million if you have a defense.

Sure you do. With all the "peaceful" protests going on, you absolutely do.

Yes, it was issued as a no-knock warrant. The police said they knocked. Eleven witnesses said they didn't. No evidence of recordings, body cams etc. Significant discipline needs to be made, e.g. suspension without pay, etc, to make it clear that these protect the cops and the city.

Whether the cops have been emboldened by Utah v Strieff is worth considering.

Walker said they knocked in testimony. He just said they didn't identify themselves, but it's clear to everyone that they knocked. It was issued as a no-knock, but was changed per the DA to a knock and announce prior to the raid. But there is no debate at all whether a knock occurred.

 

[Legacy]

You're misrepresenting the facts, and issue. The warrant only stated that Taylor's address had received parcels for Glover. Not they had drugs in them. The PS only denied that they were asked by the local police, but did admit being asked by another law enforcement agency, whom they refused to identify. And we know based on testimony that Taylor did receive packages for Glover. IIRC, Glover said they were clothing.

Here's an article on the topic.
https://www.wdrb.com/in-depth/louis...cle_f25bbc06-96e4-11ea-9371-97b341bd2866.html




Sure you do. With all the "peaceful" protests going on, you absolutely do.



Walker said they knocked in testimony. He just said they didn't identify themselves, but it's clear to everyone that they knocked. It was issued as a no-knock, but was changed per the DA to a knock and announce prior to the raid. But there is no debate at all whether a knock occurred.

I recommend that you reread the article in the link you provided.

They knew Glover did not live there. They had arrested him and knew where he lived. See Gooden's statements on the local PO. All the issues are the same with blatant disregard for the grounds necessary for a warrant and for human life that resulted in her death.

This type of police abuse of the judicial and law enforcement systems has no place in our society. This fits every criteria for the title of this thread.

Yeah, I don't like white supremacists though you may have a different view.

 

[Irish YJ]

I recommend that you reread the article in the link you provided.

They knew Glover did not live there. They had arrested him and knew where he lived. See Gooden's statements on the local PO. All the issues are the same with blatant disregard for the grounds necessary for a warrant and for human life that resulted in her death.

You're spinning. What of the below is not true

1. The warrant stated that Glover had packages sent to Taylor's residence, not that he lived there.
2. We know from testimony from Glover that he had packages sent to Taylor's residence
3. We know from Walker's testimony that there was a "knock"

This type of police abuse of the judicial and law enforcement systems has no place in our society. This fits every criteria for the title of this thread.

Do you blame the jury?

Yeah, I don't like white supremacists though you may have a different view.

Dude, you need medication. I married and extremely smart and beautiful African American girl who graduated from a HBCU. You really have no clue.

 

[NorthDakota]

I recommend that you reread the article in the link you provided.

They knew Glover did not live there. They had arrested him and knew where he lived. See Gooden's statements on the local PO. All the issues are the same with blatant disregard for the grounds necessary for a warrant and for human life that resulted in her death.

This type of police abuse of the judicial and law enforcement systems has no place in our society. This fits every criteria for the title of this thread.

Yeah, I don't like white supremacists though you may have a different view.

Bruh lol wut

 

[NDRock]

Dude, you need medication. I married and extremely smart and beautiful African American girl who graduated from a HBCU. You really have no clue.

She can’t be that smart, she married a white supremacist.

 

[Irish YJ]

She can’t be that smart, she married a white supremacist.

Yea, tell me about it. I fooled all my AA friends too. I keep my hood hidden well. I've been doing a reverse Black Klansman for decades now. It's a great cover.

 

[NDRock]

Yea, tell me about it. I fooled all my AA friends too. I keep my hood hidden well. I've been doing a reverse Black Klansman for decades now. It's a great cover.

Playing the long con. Well done.

 

[Irish YJ]

Playing the long con. Well done.

Full transparency, we're divorced now, but nothing to do with finding my hood or anything like that lol. We're still good friends and she lives literally a mile away. We still own real estate together.

 

[ulukinatme]

Yes, it was issued as a no-knock warrant. The police said they knocked. Eleven witnesses said they didn't.

Saying the officers didn't knock or announce themselves, and saying they didn't know if the cops knocked/announced themselves are two different things. If the independent investigation found that the cops did knock and announce themselves, I'm thinking it's more likely the 11 people questioned probably were unaware of an altercation until bullets started flying.

 

[NorthDakota]

Full transparency, we're divorced now, but nothing to do with finding my hood or anything like that lol. We're still good friends and she lives literally a mile away. We still own real estate together.

Whiskey isn't going to be happy to hear this.

 

[Irish YJ]

Whiskey isn't going to be happy to hear this.

I know lol. We both really did try though. We went through 4 or 5 family concs. She didn't like what any of them had to say lol... We laugh about it now.

 

[Irish YJ]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WATCH: A car ripped through a crowd of Trump supporters at a BLM counterprotest in Yorba Linda. It was clearly deliberate and the driver did not stop even as the Trump crowd gathered to tend to the wounded. Trump supporters did NOT attack the driver. <a href="https://t.co/f9nu6L0WBu">pic.twitter.com/f9nu6L0WBu</a></p>— Ian Miles Cheong (@stillgray) <a href="https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1310023484811038720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">*GRAPHIC* Trump supporter was struck by a car. Details unclear on who hit the man. His ankle is visibly broken. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/YorbaLinda?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#YorbaLinda</a> <a href="https://t.co/zhqcFcE8Gt">pic.twitter.com/zhqcFcE8Gt</a></p>— Tomas Morales (@TomasMorales_iv) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomasMorales_iv/status/1309992320536776705?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Bishop2b5]

Compare that to the following:

<iframe width="680" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/JLht36woLPQ" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

 

[Irish YJ]

Compare that to the following:

<iframe width="680" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/JLht36woLPQ" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Yup, I saw that earlier, but the a clip from the CBS affiliate. Check this one out. Closer up of the truck and others attacking the car. The news host seems to have seen what led up to the ordeal.

Mostly peaceful fucking crazy people... yup.

<iframe width="600" height="330" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/zAd7f2vPdqk" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

 

[Bishop2b5]

Mostly peaceful fucking crazy people... yup.

The MSM relentlessly beating the peaceful protester drum in spite of the countless videos of such violence is shameful... if they had any sense of shame. This is yet another reason why so many Americans despise the MSM and trust them less than you'd trust a hooker professing her undying love for you.