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Reps,... I would applaud this but I got one hand in my pocket,...

Thank You for the reps. Still trying to keep those Hands Clean? You Ought To Know pocket pinball is not the way though.

In all seriousness, lots of good tunes from CA.

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I'm not convinced he gets convicted.

Cops have done worse and walked. This technique also seems to be frequently used by cops and they'll argue he was following his training. Some of those cops with him were fresh rookies. I'll wager that the verdict disappoints people.

I suspect you may be correct.
 

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I'm not convinced he gets convicted.

Cops have done worse and walked. This technique also seems to be frequently used by cops and they'll argue he was following his training. Some of those cops with him were fresh rookies. I'll wager that the verdict disappoints people.

I really wonder what their training officially includes. Per a LE buddy of mine, while that technique is somewhat common, it's also specifically called out as a no-no by a lot of departments. Any LEO's on the board that can comment?

I think only one of the guys was a rook, and he was the guy that twice asked if they should let him turn over. His attorney called that out on national TV.... I think the rook gets off with a hand slap, and the other two get something more.
 

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The LA Galaxy released midfielder Aleksandar Katai after his wife posted a few things on SM... One was a video of looters stealing shoes with a caption of "Black Nikes Matter". If he beat his wife for doing that, would it have been OK?

And

57 Buffalo officers quit special team after 2 officers suspended

And

Ask me about my wiener.

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I really wonder what their training officially includes. Per a LE buddy of mine, while that technique is somewhat common, it's also specifically called out as a no-no by a lot of departments. Any LEO's on the board that can comment?

I think only one of the guys was a rook, and he was the guy that twice asked if they should let him turn over. His attorney called that out on national TV.... I think the rook gets off with a hand slap, and the other two get something more.

Didnt scroll back but im assuming youre asking if a knee to the neck is common/allowed? Answer is no to both, atleast im my experience. 1. There much more efficient ways to subdue someone fighting with you on the ground, you lose leverage being up so high Not to mention other ways where you dont risk killing someone. Ex. Knee on the center of the back. 2. Unless youre alone and fighting with someone who doesnt want to be cuffed and youre waiting for backup, theres no reason to leave someone on the ground cuffed like that, especially with 4 guys just standing there. Turn him on his butt and sit him against the car/wall/curb especially if he wants medics. If hes kicking, cuff his legs. 3. Ive arrested people with raucous crowds. Worst thing you can do is leave the guy there. You always get the arrestee out of there asap. 4. He looked like he was posing on top of his trophy so all the onlookers to see. Hes a substandard human being.
 

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Didnt scroll back but im assuming youre asking if a knee to the neck is common/allowed? Answer is no to both, atleast im my experience. 1. There much more efficient ways to subdue someone fighting with you on the ground, you lose leverage being up so high Not to mention other ways where you dont risk killing someone. Ex. Knee on the center of the back. 2. Unless youre alone and fighting with someone who doesnt want to be cuffed and youre waiting for backup, theres no reason to leave someone on the ground cuffed like that, especially with 4 guys just standing there. Turn him on his butt and sit him against the car/wall/curb especially if he wants medics. If hes kicking, cuff his legs. 3. Ive arrested people with raucous crowds. Worst thing you can do is leave the guy there. You always get the arrestee out of there asap. 4. He looked like he was posing on top of his trophy so all the onlookers to see. Hes a substandard human being.

Thank you and reps.

It's what I figured. It will be interesting to see what MN's policies are.
 

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I’m sure we can all agree that Canada fucking sucks,... I mean hockey is really cool I guess,... now back to the topic at hand.

Dude, Canada is pretty cool. I met some really good looking ladies when a band I was in played Montreal, Quebec and Trois-Rivières. Everyone was super nice and we actually got paid for the shows. I also learned how to say Kentucky Fried Chicken and several other interesting phrases in French. On a side note I discovered that Canadians have no idea who Black Jacques Chirac is.
 

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In his last days as AG, Jeff Sessions issued a memo making it more difficult for Justice Department officials to obtain court-enforced agreements to stop civil rights abuses by local police departments.
It also makes it more difficult for the Justice Department’s civil rights lawyers to enforce agreements already in place.

Consent decrees are legally binding agreements with local police departments found to have engaged in practices that routinely violate the civil rights of those within their jurisdictions. The Justice Department has negotiated such agreements in places like Ferguson, Baltimore, New Orleans, Cleveland and Los Angeles. Work remains to be done. Just last week, another candidate has emerged in Elkhart, Indiana, where ProPublica and the South Bend Tribune reports that out of 34 police supervisors, 28 have been disciplined, 15 suspended, seven involved in fatal shootings and three convicted of criminal charges. (11/19/18)

Propublica's articles on individual and pervasive violations by the Elkhart Police Dept.
https://www.propublica.org/series/accused-in-elkhart

Fifteen had been suspended. Seven had been involved in fatal shootings. Three had been convicted of crimes. One officer was made sergeant after being disciplined more than two dozen times, the news organizations found. Another had choked a man in custody. Another failed to report a fellow officer who had battered a woman and shot her cat.

In addition, the news organizations revealed that two Elkhart officers had beaten a handcuffed man. The two officers were subsequently charged with federal civil rights violations. Those charges are still pending. The officers have pleaded not guilty.

From: https://www.propublica.org/article/...ndiana-police-department-lacks-accountability

Removing federal oversight and the threat of consent decrees leaves local communities to determine policies that will curb such abuses, usually for excessive use of force.


From the DOJ on consent decrees:
Entering a consent decree with a state or local governmental entity may be appropriate if
one or more of the following factors is present:
1. The defendant has an established history of recalcitrance or is known to be unlikely to
perform because, for example, the defendant has violated other related administrative
orders, judicial orders, settlement agreements, or consent decrees.
2. The defendant has unlawfully attempted to obstruct the investigation by, for example,
engaging in spoliation.
3. The defendant has engaged in a pattern or practice of deprivations of rights or other
violations of federal law, and other remedies have proven ineffective, such that ensuring
compliance without the ongoing supervision of a court is unrealistic.
4. A consent decree is necessary to secure statutory protection or relief for the defendant, such
as statutory protection against challenges and claims by third parties or statutory relief that
preempts state law.

DOJ on
POLICE USE OF FORCE
Addressing Community Racial Tensions
(DOJ link)

The authority for the Community Racial Tensions was created by the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Father Hesburgh chaired the Civil Rights Commission from 1957-72 which produced the recommendations adopted in the Civil Rights Act.
CRS is the only Federal agency whose purpose is to assist State and local units of government, private and
public organizations, and community groups with preventing and resolving racial and ethnic tensions, conflicts, and civil disorders, and in restoring racial stability
and harmony.
 
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Bluto took the maple pill confirmed,....

I made my kid watch Strange Brew with me awhile back so he would better appreciate Canadian culture.

I will admit even though I like Canadians I still do not understand how Micheal J Fox became such a huge phenomena.
 
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Dude, Canada is pretty cool. I met some really good looking ladies when a band I was in played Montreal, Quebec and Trois-Rivières. Everyone was super nice and we actually got paid for the shows. I also learned how to say Kentucky Fried Chicken and several other interesting phrases in French. On a side note I discovered that Canadians have no idea who Black Jacques Chirac is.

Out of all the places I've ever been, Vancouver and Bratislava have the best looking ladies. Eastern Europe on the whole is pretty phenomenal in that sense.
 

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Out of all the places I've ever been, Vancouver and Bratislava have the best looking ladies. Eastern Europe on the whole is pretty phenomenal in that sense.

Ukraine. Way more than their share of gorgeous women.
 

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Ukraine. Way more than their share of gorgeous women.

Yup. I've never been to Ukraine, but when I was opening a second office in Kosice (only about 50 miles form Ukrainian border) , they had a ton of Ukrainians. On my first trip over there, I only saw one fat chick in the few weeks I was there. And she was Italian...
 

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UK and Australia joining in

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Australia, Melbourne <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/blacklivesmatter?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#blacklivesmatter</a> protest. ⁦(📹<a href="https://twitter.com/moniquehore?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@moniquehore</a>) <a href="https://t.co/rlxCQHvrOt">pic.twitter.com/rlxCQHvrOt</a></p>— Anonymous (@YourAnonCentral) <a href="https://twitter.com/YourAnonCentral/status/1269318456018472960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 6, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

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I made my kid watch Strange Brew with me awhile back so he would better appreciate Canadian culture.

I will admit even though I like Canadians I still do not understand how Micheal J Fox became such a huge phenomena.


Teen Wolf and Back to the Future. Then he had a pretty good sitcom in the late 80's early 90's. He then got Parkinson's.
I'm curious how It's hard to understand why people are attracted to success, and then think It's bad? This Is the newest phenomenon.
 

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First he hates baseball them MJF,.... Bluto is dead to me.
 

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First he hates baseball them MJF,.... Bluto is dead to me.

Hey, I don’t hate the dude. I’m just like he’s a short, average looking dude from Canada. What gives? As a first generation Mexican American who loved Cheech and Chong and Sanford and Son growing up I found the Keatons to be not very relatable or funny. Shit made no sense to me. His sister on the show was kind of hot I think. Or was it the mom? Lol.
 
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Hey, I don’t hate the dude. I’m just like he’s a short, average looking dude from Canada. What gives? As a first generation Mexican American who loved Cheech and Chong and Sanford and Son growing up I found the Keatons to be not very relatable or funny. Shit made no sense to me. His sister on the show was kind of hot I think. Or was it the mom? Lol.

MJF didn't really do it for me either. I liked the first BTTF though.

Sanford and Son >>>>> Family Ties
 

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Ya’ll some hyper aggressive homo bitches,....
 

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Hey, I don’t hate the dude. I’m just like he’s a short, average looking dude from Canada. What gives? As a first generation Mexican American who loved Cheech and Chong and Sanford and Son growing up I found the Keatons to be not very relatable or funny. Shit made no sense to me. His sister on the show was kind of hot I think. Or was it the mom? Lol.

I am white and wasn't a huge fan of Family Ties. Justine Bateman, who played the sister, was cute though. Her brother, Jason, is the popular actor now.

I was a huge Cheech and Chong fan. My Father, God rest his soul, was too. He said they reminded him of all his buddies from Catholic school growing up in East LA. I was also into Sanford & Son, Good Times and Chico and the Man. TV was way better back in my day!
 
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I am white and wasn't a huge fan of Family Ties. Justine Bateman, who played the sister, was cute though. Her brother, Jason, is the popular actor now.

I was a huge Cheech and Chong fan. My Father, God rest his soul, was too. He said they reminded him of all his buddies from Catholic school growing up in East LA. I was also into Sanford & Son, Good Times and Chico and the Man. TV was way better back in my day!

Major reps!
 

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I am white and wasn't a huge fan of Family Ties. Justine Bateman, who played the sister, was cute though. Her brother, Jason, is the popular actor now.

I was a huge Cheech and Chong fan. My Father, God rest his soul, was too. He said they reminded him of all his buddies from Catholic school growing up in East LA. I was also into Sanford & Son, Good Times and Chico and the Man. TV was way better back in my day!

Network TV was totally better back then. S&S and GTs rocked. All in the Family reruns were my fav too.

And anyone that doesn't like C&C is simply unAmerican.

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This talk of 80's sitcoms reminded me of one of my favorite SNL skits.

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Rumors of a huge NYPD shakeup imminent and a large amount of retirements forthcoming.
 

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This talk of 80's sitcoms reminded me of one of my favorite SNL skits.

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Holy hell, I've never seen this. That's some dark comedy lol. I didn't expect that from David Pumpkins.
 
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