Pets

[Irish YJ]

What do you like about Bulldogs? They are cool looking, and all dogs are good, but it's one breed that I don't get the appeal. They have short lifespans, medical problems, oily skin and smell no matter how much you wash them.

have to agree with wooly on this one. some old co-workers had a pair. hated going over their house for game day stuff. the dogs had good personalities and were cute, but I hated being near them.

 

[calvegas04]

Goldendoodles are smart,friendly, loyal,non-shedding, long life span

 

[Irish Insanity]

Okay so my wife and I lost our boys over the course of the last year (Timon and Pumba, mentioned earlier in the thread) to old age... we now have one 7-8 year old cat Gipper.

We are thinking our next pet will prob be a dog, or a dog and cat together as puppy and kitten and let them grow together... we are good on the cat... for the dog we want something that presents SOME form of security while not being too big...

we are thinking bulldog of some sort and both love English Bulldogs but I doubt we are willing to pay that much (those dogs are fing expensive)...

Bullmastiff??
Old English BD??
American bull??

Thoughts? Anyone with experience with these types of dogs in terms of temperament, cost, etc??

Bullmastiff's are huge.

I had an American Bulldog. He was awesome. Really mellow. He would sit at the door when someone knocked and let out one deep, loud, bark. The person would proceed to leave as fast as possible. He was about 140 lbs at 2 years. Problem with most American Bulldogs is their breeding. Most are a Pit bull / Mastiff mix. They look like a cracked out boxer. Basically a boxer with a wider gate. Mine, Benny was his name, was a Mastiff / English Bulldog mix. There are a few different bloodlines, but I've yet to see any others bread like Benny was.

 

[Irish Insanity]

THAT is def a possibility... anyone ever own one or have any experience with these types of dogs??

That's simply the legit name for a properly bread Pitbull.

 

[IrishLion]

What my dog thinks she is:

What my neighbors think she is:

What I think she is:

What she actually is:

 

[woolybug25]

That's simply the legit name for a properly bread Pitbull.

 

[ACamp1900]

That's simply the legit name for a properly bread Pitbull.

I thought that was American Pitbull... But I'm not a dog guy at all so not shocking, I googled and they looked the part.

To wooly, I could go through the history of it but let's just say there are very few breeds of dog, if any, I'd even consider aside from bulldogs, or cross breeds of, just me. I appreciate all the input from everyone on various breeds, IE is great because of stuff like this, but I'm only interested in the breeds I mentioned unfortunately,

 

[ACamp1900]

Bullmastiff's are huge.

That was always my impression but honestly the Browns have one as their mascot now and he's not very big, it drove me to research this whole thing a bit and all the stats I see only have them averaging two feetish tall, which is reasonable to me... They're also 'supposed' to be low energy and low maintance (compared to other breeds) so it sparked my interest....

So I asked the board their thoughts...

 

[Irish YJ]

try this

Dog Breed Questionnaire : Dog Breed Selector : Animal Planet

 

[pkt77242]

I thought that was American Pitbull... But I'm not a dog guy at all so not shocking, I googled and they looked the part.

To wooly, I could go through the history of it but let's just say there are very few breeds of dog, if any, I'd even consider aside from bulldogs, or cross breeds of, just me. I appreciate all the input from everyone on various breeds, IE is great because of stuff like this, but I'm only interested in the breeds I mentioned unfortunately,

Huh?

You admit to not being a dog person but don't want advice from experienced dog owners.....

 

[pkt77242]

try this

Dog Breed Questionnaire : Dog Breed Selector : Animal Planet

Haha. I have taken that before, and I got Corgi. I do like Corgis.

 

[ACamp1900]

Not joking, that popped up on my Facebook page right after I first posted this question here... Fing Internet...

 

[BobbyMac]

I thought that was American Pitbull... But I'm not a dog guy at all so not shocking, I googled and they looked the part.

To wooly, I could go through the history of it but let's just say there are very few breeds of dog, if any, I'd even consider aside from bulldogs, or cross breeds of, just me. I appreciate all the input from everyone on various breeds, IE is great because of stuff like this, but I'm only interested in the breeds I mentioned unfortunately,

If you are drawn to Mastiffs, the Pit Terriers and all of their various combinations then you have to ask yourself serious questions about all the variables in your lifestyle before getting one. You said you've never had a dog before, that's huge. Other things are your house/yard situation, family members (kids), frequency of visitors, your personality, the way you interact with love ones, your time available to train the dog, how social will you be with your dog like going out in public, local laws/HOA stips/Apartment condo rules etc... There are a lot of things to consider.

Once you figure that out, then you have to get a dog from a reliable source. The biggest mistake people make is getting a dog that's game. I can hook you up with a 100% professional, Biff & Buffy, AmStaff breeder and you still might get a dog that's a handful and getting a roller when you're not prepared for it is no bueno.

I grew up raising aggressive guard dogs. Terriers can be a crap shoot. My sister has the greatest gun metal blue AmStaff ever. Looks like Satan's spawn but cuddles with kittens. When I move back to AZ, I'm gonna start breeding Hog Dogs and he's going into service.

All i say is be careful in every aspect of the process.


If you like Asian things, get one of these:

 

[ACamp1900]

I have a HUGE backyard by So Cal standards, a pool (do all dogs swim??), two baby girls, youngest is four,... I want them protected without any danger to them... ( I shared some time back a G Shepard nearly killed me when I was my daughters age, hence my typical, 'fvk dogs' attitude...) we have a 'big' house with nice stuff we don't want getting destroyed, we have some sliding glass,... We do however live right at the edge of the Mojave desert so the image of grass and palm trees doesn't fit,... Think dirt, rock, desert landscaping and Palm trees... Not sure what else to consider???? Btw, what dog is pictured above?

Major thx to EVERYONE for their help...

 

[pkt77242]

If you are drawn to Mastiffs, the Pit Terriers and all of their various combinations then you have to ask yourself serious questions about all the variables in your lifestyle before getting one. You said you've never had a dog before, that's huge. Other things are your house/yard situation, family members (kids), frequency of visitors, your personality, the way you interact with love ones, your time available to train the dog, how social will you be with your dog like going out in public, local laws/HOA stips/Apartment condo rules etc... There are a lot of things to consider.

Once you figure that out, then you have to get a dog from a reliable source. The biggest mistake people make is getting a dog that's game. I can hook you up with a 100% professional, Biff & Buffy, AmStaff breeder and you still might get a dog that's a handful and getting a roller when you're not prepared for it is no bueno.

I grew up raising aggressive guard dogs. Terriers can be a crap shoot. My sister has the greatest gun metal blue AmStaff ever. Looks like Satan's spawn but cuddles with kittens. When I move back to AZ, I'm gonna start breeding Hog Dogs and he's going into service.

All i say is be careful in every aspect of the process.


If you like Asian things, get one of these:

If he goes Asian he should go Hokkaido. Who doesn't want a dog that can fight a bear?

Traditionally in Japan, the dog has been used as a working breed that plays both the role of family pet and hunter. In Japan, they are strongly tied to hunting kennels and work alongside their handlers to manage populations of wild boar and bear. Their vocal nature manifests in varying types of characteristic howls, long and short barks, used as sighting signals on hunts. They have an unusual fighting style against the Hokkaido brown bear, or higuma, and will take risks to protect its master, despite size differences. The way in which the Ainu dog accomplishes this is to attack the bear's back, then bite and hold the dorsal flesh of the bear's neck until the bear retreats. For this purpose, the Hokkaido in Japan are encouraged to have a fierce and unrelenting character that benefits in the field.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hokkaido_%28dog%29

 

[Irish YJ]

I grew up raising aggressive guard dogs. Terriers can be a crap shoot. My sister has the greatest gun metal blue AmStaff ever. Looks like Satan's spawn but cuddles with kittens. When I move back to AZ, I'm gonna start breeding Hog Dogs and he's going into service.

All i say is be careful in every aspect of the process.


If you like Asian things, get one of these:

Looks pretty svelte for an amstaff?

 

[ND NYC]

beautiful dog

 

[BobbyMac]

The Dog pictured is a Thai Ridgeback. It looks like the type of dog you want but it's not.

What you need is a trained Belgium Malinois, but you don't like breeds that look like Shepards. You'd be fine with a with a good AmStaff from a reputable breeder .

 

[ShakeDown]

The answer is always Dogo Argentino.

 

[BobbyMac]

The answer is always Dogo Argentino.

If the question is best all around dog for family protection and sport, only a well sorted American Bulldog is in it's class, especially if you want a bigger dog. Real Dogo's are around 100lb tops

If you want the perfect dog dog in this class it's a Tosa / Dogo hybrid. I'm gonna be breeding them soon.

 

[FLDomer]

jmurphy75 and FLDomer's dog's on page 2 look like what we have in mind...

Hey man I have owne bullmastiffs and currently have a Olde. The bullmastiffs were great dogs and awesome temperament, training early and consistent are critical cause they can be stubborn turds. The olde I have now is currently 86lbs and is awesome with kids and adults, he only has two set backs. He has terrible skin allergies which are a nitemare to get under control and the second issue of the fault of myself as he was not socialized enough as a pup and he is very dog aggressive today. I love my dog now but in all honesty I will probably not get an Olde ever again mostly due to the skin issues. Good luck man!

 

[rocket66]

+1 for the golden doodle. I've owned lots of dogs and breeds but "Rudy" is the smartest, least shedding, and friendliest dog I've ever had.


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[Irish YJ]

Anyone have experience with Dobermans? My neighbor had a pair growing up. They were the most loyal, smart, trained, obedient, dogs I've ever seen. Wanted a pair since Zeus and Apollo lol

 

[Corry]

I had an American Bulldog that was my wife and I's best friend. I can't speak to the breed other than my personal experience with Rocky, but if he's indicative of the breed as a whole I couldn't recommend them more.

I just can't bring myself to get another dog. The hardest thing Ive ever done was putting my dog down. Maybe after the boys grow up and leave the nest, but not anytime soon. The feels are real.

 

[Irish#1]

Everyone has their favorite breeds and thinks their breed is the best. I'm no different, but what I'm suggesting below fits for any breed you select.

I bred hounds for about 20 years, so I do have some experience. Just keep these things in mind when selecting a dog.

1. While all breeds have their inherent characteristics, there can be a lot of variance within the breed itself. All dogs are individuals much like humans. While one breed is reported to have a good temperament, there will be those within the same breed that do not. While certain dogs may be "outgoing" there will be some that are timid and/or shy.
2. Not only talk to the breeder, ask to see the parents. Do they meet breed standards? How are their personalities? Any health issues?
3. If they don't own both parents, walk away.
4. Ask to talk to some of their customers to see if they are happy and if what the breeder has told you is correct.
5. Find out about any health issues. For instance, I used to work with a lady who bought a Golden Retriever from a breeder. She always complained to me about the health problems the dog had including hip dysplasia. One day she tells me she's getting another GR. I asked her where she was getting it and she said the same breeder. I politely pointed out that she should buy from another breeder. She thought I was crazy. I told her, her breeder was using a dog in her breeding program that was passing along the deformity. This dog shouldn't have been used for breeding. She bought from the same breeder and eventually paid for surgery on the second dog as well.
5. Don't buy from the casual breeder who raises one or two litters a year. Buy from someone who has been breeding for a while and has a documented breeding program. Labradors and Golden Retrievers have pretty much had their hunting instincts bred out of them because of casual breeders. You can still find good hunting Lab's and GR's but it takes some work to locate them.
6. Finally decide what you want the dog for and narrow the breeds down to one or two before deciding.

My Redbone named Ruby.

 

[ACamp1900]

The search is over,... 'Mack' is home... Pics later

 

[ShakeDown]

The search is over,... 'Mack' is home... Pics later

PICS NOWWWWW

 

[ShakeDown]

If the question is best all around dog for family protection and sport, only a well sorted American Bulldog is in it's class, especially if you want a bigger dog. Real Dogo's are around 100lb tops

If you want the perfect dog dog in this class it's a Tosa / Dogo hybrid. I'm gonna be breeding them soon.

Awesome. Let me know if/when you get going. My parents live in NM and I can definitly send someone to Scottsdale to pick up a pup. They've wanted a Dogo since I got my female.

I'd be really interested in the traits you'd get from a Tosa/Dogo mix. There is quite a bit of variation within the Tosa breed I believe.

If you could get rid of my Ayla's sensitive skin and shedding... Perfect dog.

 

[Irish2155]

Little Maxx...

 

[Irish2155]