Peter King Comments on Helmets

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"c. I see NBC reported there were "flecks of gold'' in the paint on the new, shiny Notre Dame helmets in the Saturday night game against USC. Are you telling me there's no better, more charitable way for a Catholic institution to spend its money than to outfit the football team with helmets made in part with real gold?"

This comment kind of pissed me off? I thought i had seen once that the gold in the helmet amounts to like 11 cents a helmet. Not sure where i saw that or if its even true, just wondering if anyone has anymore perspective on the subject?
 

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Beyond that, the flecks of gold are taken from the Dome, so it's not even like they're paying for it, outside of the labor to remove it and add it to the paint mix...
 
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I'd like to see how much ND actually gives to charity. I bet it's a pretty penny. Sure PK didn't know that number when he made the comments.
 

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Its been like this for how long, and only now they are bitching about it? Slow news day...
 

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Its been like this for how long, and only now they are bitching about it? Slow news day...

BINGO, not to mention he is one of the absolute WORST prognosticators of NFL games for being a so-called "expert." He should just go away and secretly date Favre, starting a love triangle between him, Favre, and Madden.
 

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"c. I see NBC reported there were "flecks of gold'' in the paint on the new, shiny Notre Dame helmets in the Saturday night game against USC. Are you telling me there's no better, more charitable way for a Catholic institution to spend its money than to outfit the football team with helmets made in part with real gold?"

This comment kind of pissed me off? I thought i had seen once that the gold in the helmet amounts to like 11 cents a helmet. Not sure where i saw that or if its even true, just wondering if anyone has anymore perspective on the subject?

Did he get sick of reporting on where he got free coffee this week, and how good it was?..and then mentioning how he's a coffee snob?

He should stick to botching NFL reporting.
 

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Peter King is, and has always been, a blowhard douchebag. I highly recommend Drew Magary's weekly takedown of King's MMQB column at his website, kissingsuzykolber.
 

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Peter King is, and has always been, a blowhard douchebag. I highly recommend Drew Magary's weekly takedown of King's MMQB column at his website, kissingsuzykolber.

I had never heard of that site, Rhode.

Now it's like my disdain for Peter King is verbalized on a weekly basis! Thanks for sharing!!
 

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King is a pompous, name-dropping, twit. Really has a high opinion of himself. Quit reading him a long time ago.
 

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Let's see:

8oz of gold on the entire dome (a handful)
Re-gilded every 10-15 years
85 helmets a game + other athletics (rower's paddles, for instance)

Let's just say there isn't much gold in there.

Hater's gone hate.
 

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Is there too much money spent on college football? Yes. Is this a sign of that reality? No.
 

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Where can you verify the amount of gold in the Golden Dome? Not disputing, just curious.
 

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"c. I see NBC reported there were "flecks of gold'' in the paint on the new, shiny Notre Dame helmets in the Saturday night game against USC. Are you telling me there's no better, more charitable way for a Catholic institution to spend its money than to outfit the football team with helmets made in part with real gold?"

This comment kind of pissed me off? I thought i had seen once that the gold in the helmet amounts to like 11 cents a helmet. Not sure where i saw that or if its even true, just wondering if anyone has anymore perspective on the subject?

I'm surprised he wasn't complaining about ND's cheapness for all those years they used "forced", unpaid student labor to paint the helmets.

Now the helmets get painted by private industry stimulating the economy.

ND has been recycling the gold from the regilded dome for decades.

Peter King is just green with envy, Irish Envy!
 

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Where can you verify the amount of gold in the Golden Dome? Not disputing, just curious.

Lol, that's a good point. Apparently he doesn't have a problem with the $100 million-dollar sports complexes built on just about every major program's campus across America, but spend about $20 a year (just throwing that number out there) on gold to keep up a long-held tradition, and suddenly you can't pass through the eye of the needle...
 

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I don't get how this is noteworthy, even for a nitwit like King.

Haven't we had real gold in the helmets since the 1960s?
 

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I liked Peter King so much better when he was just content playing Norm on "Cheers." I don't know why he does this column thing nowadays.
 

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Where can you verify the amount of gold in the Golden Dome? Not disputing, just curious.

I don't know the basis of the 11 cents per helmet but the 8 oz number comes from the amount of gold in regilding the entire dome which was last done in '05. They scrap off the old gold leaf and a save it. Particles from that salvaged gold leaf is what's mixed in with the paint that goes on the helmets. It's recycled material.

There's are '05 article on Regilding the Dome here:

Regilding the Dome // News // Notre Dame Magazine // University of Notre Dame

It's about the Dome not about helmets.
 

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I was a tour guide for 4 years while at ND. That's the amount they told us to tell people, not sure why they'd lie. I'm also pretty sure the dome has only been re-gilded 11 times since 1842... I can check my book when I get back from business this week.

Even with the price of gold going up insanely in the recent economy, per helmet it's a marginal amount of money at best.

Edit -- 8oz ~ $13.5k in today's prices for 10 years and recycled for years in helmets, etc... Compare that to $2,000 per student athlete per year....

Again, what a tool.
 
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I'd like to see how much ND actually gives to charity. I bet it's a pretty penny. Sure PK didn't know that number when he made the comments.

Nevermind the dollars that are donated to charity, the call for social responsibility on the campus eclipses anything that goes into a damn helmet. Students, faculty, and alumni do more to give back to their communities in time and effort...but all that gets lost. I am so sick of the "Notre Dame does not give back" argument.
 

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I was a tour guide for 4 years while at ND. That's the amount they told us to tell people, not sure why they'd lie. I'm also pretty sure the dome has only been re-gilded 11 times since 1842... I can check my book when I get back from business this week.

Even with the price of gold going up insanely in the recent economy, per helmet it's a marginal amount of money at best.

Edit -- 8oz ~ $13.5k in today's prices for 10 years and recycled for years in helmets, etc... Compare that to $2,000 per student athlete per year....

Again, what a tool.


The Notre Dame Magazine article notes 10 regildings in addition to the original job.

Now, 126 years later, as the Golden Dome and golden statue undergo their 10th regilding ...
 

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It DOES give a bad impression though. When I first came here, the front page of ND's "giving back" power point had a close-up pic of the Golden Dome. I wondered then, as I do know how many people could be fed with the gold from it? Or from all of the gold and $$$ in Rome.

that shouldn't be meant to take away from the good things accomplished.
 

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It DOES give a bad impression though. When I first came here, the front page of ND's "giving back" power point had a close-up pic of the Golden Dome. I wondered then, as I do know how many people could be fed with the gold from it? Or from all of the gold and $$$ in Rome.

that shouldn't be meant to take away from the good things accomplished.

Any grocery store, if they were to give their food they throw away to hungry people, would be able to feed more people in a week than ND could feed from the gold on the dome. The Vatican is a different story, but ND does more than its fair share when it comes to helping people.
 

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Any grocery store, if they were to give their food they throw away to hungry people, would be able to feed more people in a week than ND could feed from the gold on the dome. The Vatican is a different story, but ND does more than its fair share when it comes to helping people.

Regilding the Dome // News // Notre Dame Magazine // University of Notre Dame
$300,000 to regild in 2005, before gold prices shot through the roof (or dome). I don't think Martin's or Meijer hold that much in food in one week. I understand your point however, and i know first-hand that ND does a tremendous amount to help people. They simply don't need that gold or the money to regild and it could help others. Also, I'm an adult and I'm very over the gold in the helmets. It's unnecessary, especially in a post-industrial society and as Diogenes said, it's "mere affectation".
 

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It DOES give a bad impression though. When I first came here, the front page of ND's "giving back" power point had a close-up pic of the Golden Dome. I wondered then, as I do know how many people could be fed with the gold from it? Or from all of the gold and $$$ in Rome.

that shouldn't be meant to take away from the good things accomplished.

It gives as bad of an impression as anyone who wears a wedding ring made of gold might be giving a bad impression. The golden dome isn't just some gold slapped onto a dome. At the very least, being a gift given to ND by Saint Mary's, the dome should hold some subjective, irreplaceable value so that it can't just be so freely given away. More than that, it's an homage to the patroness of the university. It is comparable to the subjective value that a person might give to his or her wedding ring, a ring which perhaps was passed down through the family. Sure, you could pawn it and give the money to charity, but the subjective value you might place in the ring outweighs the value it might have to anyone else so it's unlikely anyone would do such a thing.
 

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Regilding the Dome // News // Notre Dame Magazine // University of Notre Dame
$300,000 to regild in 2005, before gold prices shot through the roof (or dome). I don't think Martin's or Meijer hold that much in food in one week. I understand your point however, and i know first-hand that ND does a tremendous amount to help people. They simply don't need that gold or the money to regild and it could help others. Also, I'm an adult and I'm very over the gold in the helmets. It's unnecessary, especially in a post-industrial society and as Diogenes said, it's "mere affectation".

I don't even know how to respond to you Peter.
 
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Regilding the Dome // News // Notre Dame Magazine // University of Notre Dame
$300,000 to regild in 2005, before gold prices shot through the roof (or dome). I don't think Martin's or Meijer hold that much in food in one week. I understand your point however, and i know first-hand that ND does a tremendous amount to help people. They simply don't need that gold or the money to regild and it could help others. Also, I'm an adult and I'm very over the gold in the helmets. It's unnecessary, especially in a post-industrial society and as Diogenes said, it's "mere affectation".

Completely disagree, let's get to the root of the debate here. The real issue is wasting money or useless spending(I don't believe ND is doing either). MANY universities waste TONS of money on things that could be considered wastful. The golden dome IMHO is not one of them, it's just a really easy target.
 
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