OSU or Oregon vs ND

[wallym]

Would ND compete against either of these teams, and win? Go...

 

[gkIrish]

Would ND compete against either of these teams, and win? Go...

No.

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[Nick Setta]

In October? ND could beat OSU and would give Oregon a game.
Now, lol no.
Next year, I firmly believe we'd beat Oregon and be neck and neck with the Buckeyes.

 

[GoldenDomer]

Stahp.

 

[wallym]

Stahp.

Just getting takes from everyone. Something I was thinking about. If we played like we did against LSU, maybe...control the ball/clock, keep the score low, don't expose our D too much.

 

[koonja]

I'd like to start a similar (although not really) thread about what 2015 rosters you like better than ND's based on what they return/replace.

Might help the off season. Anyone interested?

 

[Nick Setta]

Just getting takes from everyone. Something I was thinking about. If we played like we did against LSU, maybe...control the ball/clock, keep the score low, don't expose our D too much.

Except, I am better than Anthony Jennings at QB. Marcus Mariotta and 12 gauge are much better QBs than I am. Both those teams would roll us now.

 

[Black Irish]

In October? ND could beat OSU and would give Oregon a game.
Now, lol no.
Next year, I firmly believe we'd beat Oregon and be neck and neck with the Buckeyes.

I agree. Actually, even bowl season Notre Dame I think would give OSU a game, but the Ducks would probably smoke our battered defense.

 

[koonja]

Watching Oregon's offense against the middle of/deep parts of our defense would be the most embarassing thing that happened to ND on the field since BK was here IMO.

 

[IrishLax]

Midseason ND was comparable to JT Barrett's Ohio State. People forget that Ohio State...
-Lost to Virginia Tech at home.
-Needed 3 horrendous officiating errors that all directly lead to points to beat PSU in double overtime.
-Played Michigan worse than we did.
-Looked reallllly poor against Minnesota, who had a decent team but isn't great.

But this current iteration with Cardale Jones and running the ball with authority would absolutely destroy this current iteration of Notre Dame that can't stop the run. Probably something like 49-24.

Notre Dame was never on par with Oregon this year and would've gotten torched.

 

[RDU Irish]

I don't think we score enough to keep up with Oregon but it isn't a complete blowout. Maybe 1/4 chance of winning, doable but not probable.

OSU doesn't scare me. I would favor them something like 60/40. They should win but I would like our chance of upsetting them.

 

[GoldenDomer]

Oregon would beat us like a drum. That combination of tempo, physicality, and team speed would be a mismatch.

 

[RDU Irish]

I'm talking the non-November Irish that has more than three healthy bodies on the D line.

 

[Nick Setta]

Midseason ND was comparable to JT Barrett's Ohio State. People forget that Ohio State...
-Lost to Virginia Tech at home.
-Needed 3 horrendous officiating errors that all directly lead to points to beat PSU in double overtime.
-Played Michigan worse than we did.
-Looked reallllly poor against Minnesota, who had a decent team but isn't great.

But this current iteration with Cardale Jones and running the ball with authority would absolutely destroy this current iteration of Notre Dame that can't stop the run. Probably something like 49-24.

Notre Dame was never on par with Oregon this year and would've gotten torched.

Barrett's Ohio State team is better than Jones's honestly. I've seen all of Ohio State's games and that Minnesota game wasn't that close. The thing about Jones is he has a stronger arm but his wideouts are winning the floaters he throws up. I think Ohio State beats Oregon easily tonight. But against Bama he got balied out by a corner back slipping and against Wisconsin Devin Smith was just too athletic for the bad Wisconsin CBs

 

[bkess8]

No.

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+1

 

[NDohio]

Barrett's Ohio State team is better than Jones's honestly. I've seen all of Ohio State's games and that Minnesota game wasn't that close. The thing about Jones is he has a stronger arm but his wideouts are winning the floaters he throws up. I think Ohio State beats Oregon easily tonight. But against Bama he got balied out by a corner back slipping and against Wisconsin Devin Smith was just too athletic for the bad Wisconsin CBs

Really? Easily?

I am hoping for a good game just to have a good game to watch, but IMO if there is an easy win, it's Oregon over OSU.


Mid-season I believe ND could have played either team to a decent game.

 

[IrishinSyria]

I don't think anyone in on-par with oregon this year. I'm expecting a blowout tonight, though maybe they've reached a tipping point with injuries and players out where next man in just won't do it.

 

[Nick Setta]

Really? Easily?

I am hoping for a good game just to have a good game to watch, but IMO if there is an easy win, it's Oregon over OSU.


Mid-season I believe ND could have played either team to a decent game.

I just can't see Oregon beating Ohio State tonight. Devin Smith is too good for the injured Oregon DBS and Pope Urban knows how to stop the spread. 12 gauge is about to shoot some Ducks and Buckeyes win 42-20.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

No. As it stands now, ND wouldn't have a shot.

But next year, we also probably wouldn't have a shot so there's always hope.

Maybe in a decade, time will tell.

Let's just have consistent double digits wins in our seasons and we can start talking about the best teams in the country.

 

[tko]

We would get absolutely curb-stomped by either team. Oregon just b/c of their style and speed etc and OSU b/c Urban Meyer would absolutely take Kelly to the cleaners.

 

[bkess8]

The bigger issue for me is that Oregon is getting disrespected by all the ESPN analyst. No one is picking Oregon to win. I hope they take OSU to the wood shed!

 

[IrishLax]

I just can't see Oregon beating Ohio State tonight. Devin Smith is too good for the injured Oregon DBS and Pope Urban knows how to stop the spread. 12 gauge is about to shoot some Ducks and Buckeyes win 42-20.

This is the whole problem with Oregon... they're too hurt. If they're healthy, I think they'd be able to get enough stops and enough scores to win. But this is a pretty terrible matchup for them given their injured players on both sides of the ball.

 

[anarin]

The bigger issue for me is that Oregon is getting disrespected by all the ESPN analyst. No one is picking Oregon to win. I hope they take OSU to the wood shed!

Because ohio state beat big bad Alabama.

It's the Texas a&m thing all over again.

 

[bkess8]

Because ohio state beat big bad Alabama.

It's the Texas a&m thing all over again.

I just kills me, I guess they shouldn't show up tonight!

 

[zelezo vlk]

Can both teams lose this game? That's really what I'd like most.

 

[RDU Irish]

FSU pretty much handed Oregon that win on a silver platter. OSU beat an overrated Bama. I think there are 10 teams in the country that would have pretty similar shot in the championship game as these two.

Oregon wins 42-24

 

[bkess8]

FSU pretty much handed Oregon that win on a silver platter. OSU beat an overrated Bama. I think there are 10 teams in the country that would have pretty similar shot in the championship game as these two.

Oregon wins 42-24

I would love to hear that list with justifications. I think you have 8 teams too many on that list!

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[Irishbounty28]

FSU pretty much handed Oregon that win on a silver platter. OSU beat an overrated Bama. I think there are 10 teams in the country that would have pretty similar shot in the championship game as these two.

Oregon wins 42-24

I don't know about ten teams, but I think that TCU was the best team in football this season. Hindsight, it would have been nice seeing them in over Florida State, but with the records as they were it is hard keeping an undefeated out.

On the topic of Notre Dame vs either of these teams...

I would say that it would be a closer loss at the beginning of the season than at the end to both of these teams, but the end result would be the same.

 

[IrishLion]

Oregon is too efficient; ND would have to play a perfect game offensively to keep up, and I don't think that would happen.

Ohio State's new-found run game behind a young OL (Warriner...) would shred ND. Elliot would pick up chunk after chunk, Jones would deliver some punishment on a few scrambles, and then one of their burner would hit a homerun. Again, ND would have to play a perfect game offensively to keep up, and I don't think it could happen.

I don't think either game would be a blowout... both games would be 40-something to 30-something in favor of Oregon/OSU. A few extra mistakes and ND is blown out; a very clean game and ND would have a shot at an upset.

 

[NDohio]

Oregon is too efficient; ND would have to play a perfect game offensively to keep up, and I don't think that would happen.

Ohio State's new-found run game behind a young OL (Warriner...) would shred ND. Elliot would pick up chunk after chunk, Jones would deliver some punishment on a few scrambles, and then one of their burner would hit a homerun. Again, ND would have to play a perfect game offensively to keep up, and I don't think it could happen.

I don't think either game would be a blowout... both games would be 40-something to 30-something in favor of Oregon/OSU. A few extra mistakes and ND is blown out; a very clean game and ND would have a shot at an upset.

The improvements this group made from the Va Tech game to the post-season were amazing. If only the ND front five would have improved that much ...