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From the NCAA Rulebook (p FR77)

Rule 7/ Snapping and Passing The Ball

Illegal Contact and Pass Interference

ARTICLE 8.
a. During a down in which a legal forward pass crosses the neutral
zone, illegal contact by Team A and Team B players is prohibited from the time
the ball is snapped until it is touched by any player or an official (A.R. 7-3-8-II).
b. Offensive pass interference by a Team A player beyond the neutral zone
during a legal forward pass play in which a forward pass crosses the
neutral zone is contact that interferes with a Team B eligible player. It is
the responsibility of the offensive player to avoid the opponents. It is not
offensive pass interference
(A.R. 7-3-8-IV, V, X, XV and XVI):
1. When, after the snap, a Team A ineligible player immediately charges
and contacts an opponent at a point not more than one yard beyond the
neutral zone and does not continue the contact more than three yards
beyond the neutral zone.
2. When two or more eligible players are making a simultaneous and bona
fide attempt to reach, catch or bat the pass. Eligible players of either
team have equal rights to the ball (A.R. 7-3-8-IX).
3. When the pass is in flight and two or more eligible players are in the area
where they might receive or intercept the pass and an offensive player in
that area impedes an opponent, and the pass is not catchable
.

Doesn't this kind of sum up what happened on that play?? (only person that ball was catchable by was Robinson)
 

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Oh I'm looking at it as a football fan not an ND fan. I have plenty of people who HATE ND texting me saying it was BS. The DB engaged first. CJ did not block hiim. He ran his route. That is not a PI in the 1st quarter.
CJ doesn't even HAVE a route on that play. His route is to block. It's a WR screen and Robinson is the ONLY target.
 

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Complaining about coaches, players, play calling, stadium atmosphere, and INCORRECT calls are all fair game. Complaining about CORRECT calls should be beneath us. I'm as furious as anyone but I'm madder at the poor execution by our receiver than some mythical conspiracy against us.

Got it. Correct call but STFU
 

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CJ doesn't even HAVE a route on that play. His route is to block. It's a WR screen and Robinson is the ONLY target.

He ran a slant. Yes his "route" is to rub the DB, but he was running a slant. The DB initiated contact. It should be a no call.
 
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CJ doesn't even HAVE a route on that play. His route is to block. It's a WR screen and Robinson is the ONLY target.

That doesn't matter. CJ has the right to run his route regardless of whom is being targetted. Otherwise, QBs would never be able to throw to their 2nd or 3rd option.
 

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He ran a slant. Yes his "route" is to rub the DB, but he was running a slant. The DB initiated contact. It should be a no call.


One hundred percent agree. If DB doesn't engage first I might understand even though it is never called.


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Golson was AMAZING tonight. Best player on the field IMO.

He really was! If we are to win a title in the not too distant future, he will lead us there. He did everything right tonight, it just did not work out. I have no qualm saying that he may be the best player in college football. The future is scalding!
 

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Take off the green sunglasses. Every analyst (including ultra ND homer Lou) agrees it was the right call. It wasn't even a question.

So you're saying you agree cause every1 agree(wtf)? I dnt care what lou or anybody else says we lost that was a bs call. How can u block without your hands.
 

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That doesn't matter. CJ has the right to run his route regardless of whom is being targetted. Otherwise, QBs would never be able to throw to their 2nd or 3rd option.
I agree he has the right to run his route but he wasn't running one. Come on guys if this is such an obvious non-call wouldn't there be at least ONE analyst SOMEWHERE who agrees?
 

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I agree he has the right to run his route but he wasn't running one. Come on guys if this is such an obvious non-call wouldn't there be at least ONE analyst SOMEWHERE who agrees?

Yes, probably on the network that benefits them when we win...oh wait.
 

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I agree he has the right to run his route but he wasn't running one. Come on guys if this is such an obvious non-call wouldn't there be at least ONE analyst SOMEWHERE who agrees?

No because pretty much every analyst works for ESPN and it's easy to agree with the call. The DB sold it. He acted. Nevermind when Winston scrambled for like 6 yards and it was clear Rochell was held and there was a no call. The analysts will always agree because they can only push the major agenda. They can't disagree with the mothership.
 
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Did anyone see Will fuller also do the same thing. IDK the rule(s) but fuller definitely blocked well into the endzone.
 
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I agree he has the right to run his route but he wasn't running one. Come on guys if this is such an obvious non-call wouldn't there be at least ONE analyst SOMEWHERE who agrees?

I originally thought it was the right call because Herbstreit almost had a stroke on the TV. However, reviewing the link Gramaho posted and listening to the arguments, I have changed my mind. I think the WR was trying to push into the end zone.

Yes, it was a pick but that its the BEAUTY of the call. The WR has the right to run forward, which Kelly knows would have resulted in the DB being taken out of the play. The DB jammed the WR, and the replay clearly shows that CJ did not actively 'block' the DB. CJ simply ran a route and he had the right to occupy that space. WR have the right to run forwards, jam or not. Go watch the replay and you will see what happened.
 

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Listening to Kirk so vehemently argue for that call was sickening. I knew it was BS just because Kirk was so adamant that it was the correct call. I didn't even need to see the replay to know.
 

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I agree he has the right to run his route but he wasn't running one. Come on guys if this is such an obvious non-call wouldn't there be at least ONE analyst SOMEWHERE who agrees?

Will you shut the f*ck up now?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>I didn't think that was a block by Fuller. I think Ramsey tried to take away the inside. Bad call.</p>— David Pollack (@davidpollack47) <a href="https://twitter.com/davidpollack47/status/523682253705334784">October 19, 2014</a></blockquote>
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