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Not gonna lie. Tonight is stirring up emotions towards sports that have been mostly dormant.

I’m REALLY excited for this game. Feels like we will witness the biggest gut check for the staff and players of the Freeman era.

Sure, there have been bigger games, but those usually felt more like the “playing with house money, let’s see if the boys can pull it off” variety.
 

irishjim

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Joe Montana and Bon Jovi will be in town for the game. Crazy environment is in store
 

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Just finished watching the Catholics vs Convicts documentary and I'm now f'ing juiced up for tomorrow.
Such a different era. I was a senior in HS & took NDs success for granted. Never let some idiot tell u the refs botched that game on the Cleveland Gary fumble call. First, in real time Pat Haden (SC QB & Rhodes Scholar) told the audience it was the correct call after replay. Remember this was a CBS game so before Haden was an NBC employee & the analyst for ND home games when the ND/NBC TV agreeent came about.

I’m happy to give the Miami fans the Cleveland Gary play where he would’ve been down at the one yard line & likely scored after 1st & goal. But know those same Miami bitches never acknowledged that Andre Brown dropped the game tying TD. Go watch the replay or the 30 for 30. Great job of acting but he never completed the catch. Earlier in the game Brown had another TD that was called despite ND knocking him out of bounds before the goal line. Even Musberger called him OOB before the ref throws his hands up. They likely score eventually but another example of Miami getting just as many favorable calls as ND.
 
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What I loved about the 80s/90s era is Holtz was all ND. In ‘88 he warns his team about being classless & starting any extracurricular shit. In interviews decades later, he still wanted to honor ND and do it the right way. Unfortunately, it likely led to them losing in 1989 & ending their wining streak. I remember reading about that year & the players saying how they felt neutered b/c Holtz was adamant that he didn’t want any scuffles.

The lack of aggressiveness played out on the field and ND lost by 11(?). However, ND would go on to knock off #1 Colorado in the the bowl game but couldn’t even get a share of the NC b/c Miami beat Bama in their bowl & had H2H. Ironically, H2H didn’t hold water in 1993. Holtz should’ve had two NC but ND left it in the hands of the voters.

Today, ND can avoid that by winning out. If they don’t, they have no one to blame but themselves. For decades, ND would get outclassed in big games. Started w/ the Bowl Alliance in ‘94 when ND got a Fiesta Bowl bid they didn’t deserve & got smoked by CU. Then they were embarrassedd by Oregon St after the 2000 season. Then you had Willingham’s teams getting emascualted by SC for 3 straight seasons. Then it was Weis in two BCS bowls. Then it was BK in ‘12, ‘18 & ‘20.

In all those instances, ND lacked the horses. They were slow & unathletic & couldn’t recruit DL. Now ND has all of that so to lose tomorrow would sting that much more b/c it would point to one thing….coaching. No excuses. Beat Miami & win out.
 

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I hope we win, I’m always going to be pessimistic but if we had played a little better last week on the defensive line I’d maybe feel like we stood better a better chance but hopefully the team is ready and can pull it out. If not I guess we just cheer for all the other teams to lose a bunch
 

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Yeah hard pass on game day, it’s so obvious what’s happening to everyone besides sec fans. I’ll watch the barstool show from campus this afternoon. Atleast they’ll attempt to be some what subjective
 
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