Nov 6 | Navy

[Some Irish Bloke]

Regardless, ND is long past the days when we had to worry about losing to a 2-6 Navy squad. We'll be fine.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

SP+ is spitting out a 40-10 result in favor of the Irish.

 

[NDPhilly]

Hopefully we can actually get the 2nd and 3rd teamers reps for once. Buchner needs all the reps he can get.

 

[ACamp1900]

Regardless, ND is long past the days when we had to worry about losing to a 2-6 Navy squad. We'll be fine.

 

[texbender]

I have 2 sets of tix available that include White Field Parking passes.
2 in section 121, $40 each
2 in section 10 row 36, right on the 50 YL on Navy side, $65 each

Will go on Stub Hub tomorrow at noon if no takers

 

[tko]

I appreciate the Naval Academy and their path and service to be to our country, but if I could get 40-10 and not have to watch that shitty style of play I'm in. I like the Army/Navy game and that's it for them.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Haven't read or listened to anybody's Navy preview yet, but I'm starting to think that Botelho is gonna be important this weekend.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

I hope so, I'm still mad at him for jogging after Sam Howell on his long TD run; I'll quickly forgive him if he dominates the Triple O this weekend.

 

[tko]

Be disruptive, teammates come to help.

 

[Irishize]

Hoping Freeman leans on Elston. I know Freeman has experience successfully stopping Navy while he was DC at Cincy but he doesn’t have the same personnel. I’m guessing his LB were more athletic & quicker than Bertrand & White and that his secondary at Cincy didn’t learn how to tackle from a Deion Sanders Tackling For Dummies book.

Take away the FB dive and the play the option from the inside out.
Don’t miss tackles.

I’m sure BK will elect to receive. They need to make sure they score a TD on that first drive.

 

[IRISHMAN]

Hoping Freeman leans on Elston. I know Freeman has experience successfully stopping Navy while he was DC at Cincy but he doesn’t have the same personnel. I’m guessing his LB were more athletic & quicker than Bertrand & White and that his secondary at Cincy didn’t learn how to tackle from a Deion Sanders Tackling For Dummies book.

Take away the FB dive and the play the option from the inside out.
Don’t miss tackles.

I’m sure BK will elect to receive. They need to make sure they score a TD on that first drive.

yeah ND can not afford to break serve on their 1st offensive possession of the game, score first and put pressure on navy to keep pace.

if ND struggles to tackle in this game it will be a very long afternoon.

 

[Trait Expectations]

If we don't get early stops, this has all the makings of a 'way-too-close' victory.

Recipe for disaster:

Tired defense - check
Triple option grinding out first downs across 3 and 4 snaps - check
Loss of 'Erasers' in the middle and backend - check
Sluggish offense - TBD

Our defensive players already seem exhausted from the slog and we can't do a lot of subbing. As Kelly alluded in his presser, now is not the time to break in new players with such a gap-conscious scheme.

There are two trump cards we can play: explosive, consistent offense that pressures Navy into mistakes and/or the DL destroys Navy's OL upfront and causes immediate havoc after the snap.

Those things can get Navy off schedule and blow this thing open, if one or the other isn't happening, it'll be a shitty game and we'll slide down the polls.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

If we don't get early stops, this has all the makings of a 'way-too-close' victory.

Recipe for disaster:

Tired defense - check
Triple option grinding out first downs across 3 and 4 snaps - check
Loss of 'Erasers' in the middle and backend - check
Sluggish offense - TBD

Our defensive players already seem exhausted from the slog and we can't do a lot of subbing. As Kelly alluded in his presser, now is not the time to break in new players with such a gap-conscious scheme.

There are two trump cards we can play: explosive, consistent offense that pressures Navy into mistakes and/or the DL destroys Navy's OL upfront and causes immediate havoc after the snap.

Those things can get Navy off schedule and blow this thing open, if one or the other isn't happening, it'll be a shitty game and we'll slide down the polls.

For those wanting to indulge in a little pessimism today, earlier this week someone posted a "luck" ranking on /r/cfb that showed ND as the 11th luckiest team this year (7-1 record when we should be at 5-3 given average TO luck), while Navy is the 3rd most unlucky team (2-6 record when they should be at 4-4 given average TO luck).

An exhausted and injury-depleted 5-3 Irish squad vs. a 4-4 Navy squad that's starting to gel doesn't inspire much confidence in a comfortable victory. However, SP+ accounts for TO luck, and it still projects a 30-point Irish victory, so a lot would have to go wrong for us to lose this game.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

For those wanting to indulge in a little pessimism today, earlier this week someone posted a "luck" ranking on /r/cfb that showed ND as the 11th luckiest team this year (7-1 record when we should be at 5-3 given average TO luck), while Navy is the 3rd most unlucky team (2-6 record when they should be at 4-4 given average TO luck).

An exhausted and injury-depleted 5-3 Irish squad vs. a 4-4 Navy squad that's starting to gel doesn't inspire much confidence in a comfortable victory. However, SP+ accounts for TO luck, and it still projects a 30-point Irish victory, so a lot would have to go wrong for us to lose this game.

Ken Niumatalolo basically said this in his presser. Ad-libbing: "We need to play a perfect 60 minutes of football and still get some mistakes from Notre Dame and lucky breaks."

 

[IRISHMAN]

If we don't get early stops, this has all the makings of a 'way-too-close' victory.

Recipe for disaster:

Tired defense - check
Triple option grinding out first downs across 3 and 4 snaps - check
Loss of 'Erasers' in the middle and backend - check
Sluggish offense - TBD

Our defensive players already seem exhausted from the slog and we can't do a lot of subbing. As Kelly alluded in his presser, now is not the time to break in new players with such a gap-conscious scheme.

There are two trump cards we can play: explosive, consistent offense that pressures Navy into mistakes and/or the DL destroys Navy's OL upfront and causes immediate havoc after the snap.

Those things can get Navy off schedule and blow this thing open, if one or the other isn't happening, it'll be a shitty game and we'll slide down the polls.

getting a couple turnovers would be big in this game. ND forced two early turnovers in the 2019 game and allowed ND to jump out to a big lead that navy was never able to come back from. not having kyle hamilton in this game hurts, he is so good at running down hill to stop the run (his 4th down stop against navy in 2019 and purdue this year are great examples of that) that type of playmaking will be missed in this game.

 

[Irish#1]

Since Navy likes to dominate time of possession, Tommy stays with the up tempo. I think KW has a monster game. Freeman has experience against Navy as does the front line. I look for the D to dominate. Irish continue to get better.

 

[ulukinatme]

Hoping Freeman leans on Elston. I know Freeman has experience successfully stopping Navy while he was DC at Cincy but he doesn’t have the same personnel. I’m guessing his LB were more athletic & quicker than Bertrand & White and that his secondary at Cincy didn’t learn how to tackle from a Deion Sanders Tackling For Dummies book.

Take away the FB dive and the play the option from the inside out.
Don’t miss tackles.

I’m sure BK will elect to receive. They need to make sure they score a TD on that first drive.

I will never understand why he does this each week. More times than not the defense comes fired up and we end up stalling, often being a 3 and out.

 

[dad4aa]

I will never understand why he does this each week. More times than not the defense comes fired up and we end up stalling, often being a 3 and out.

Not accurate at all:

FSU TD opening drive
Toledo TD opening drive
Purdue 3 and out
Wisconsin 3 and out
Cincinnati 11 play drive with INT in the red zone
VT 3 and out
USC 15 play missed FG in red zone
NC 8 plays and punt

 

[rtrn2glory]

We have to take the ball this week and most likely next but other weeks I wouldn't be opposed if the situation fits

 

[Meatloaf]

A+ opening series O

 

[ThePiombino]

Not accurate at all:

FSU TD opening drive
Toledo TD opening drive
Purdue 3 and out
Wisconsin 3 and out
Cincinnati 11 play drive with INT in the red zone
VT 3 and out
USC 15 play missed FG in red zone
NC 8 plays and punt

Navy 3 and out

 

[Luckylucci]

Accept, first play false start by Lugg, 3 and out. And that’s after they gifted us the ball at the 35.

 

[dang227]

Ugh


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[ThePiombino]

Accept, first play false start by Lugg, 3 and out. And that’s after they gifted us the ball at the 35.

At least Coan fell forward for a few...

 

[MTLIrish]

We should not be taking penalties against Navy…. I’m sensing a lack of focus here

 

[ACamp1900]

Since when does Navy run the option?????

 

[MTLIrish]

Are we being serious here

 

[ThePiombino]

Garbage start

 

[IrishLax]

This game plan on offense makes literally no sense. It is so passive, like we’re playing Alabama and can’t just run right at them.

 

[T-Boone]

TB time.