Nov 14 | Boston College

[Free Manera]

So what does everyone predict Lea's gameplan will be?

I'm thinking it looks like the USC game a year or two ago. Play coverage, rush 4, keep contain on Jurk to force him to throw from the pocket.

In that game Lea made SC put together 15 play drives to go down the field (they couldn't do it). I suspect they feel the same way about Phil. He can beat you deep and he can beat you with his legs. But he is going to throw into double or triple coverage 1 out of 10 times and force balls across the middle. If ND can get 2 or 3 takeaways this game is a beatdown.

 

[IrishLax]

So what does everyone predict Lea's gameplan will be?

I'm thinking it looks like the USC game a year or two ago. Play coverage, rush 4, keep contain on Jurk to force him to throw from the pocket.

In that game Lea made SC put together 15 play drives to go down the field (they couldn't do it). I suspect they feel the same way about Phil. He can beat you deep and he can beat you with his legs. But he is going to throw into double or triple coverage 1 out of 10 times and force balls across the middle. If ND can get 2 or 3 takeaways this game is a beatdown.

Having watched way too much BC football this year, I can say definitively that they can’t run the ball and that they want to throw deep. If I’m ND I’m keeping two high safeties all game and waiting for the easy interceptions to come. Their underneath passing game is mostly throwing to their TE and I think we have the LBs to take that away.

The one thing ND should NOT do is blitz letting BC take shots down the field against single coverage. Their WRs are underrated and very solid players.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

So what does everyone predict Lea's gameplan will be?

I'm thinking it looks like the USC game a year or two ago. Play coverage, rush 4, keep contain on Jurk to force him to throw from the pocket.

In that game Lea made SC put together 15 play drives to go down the field (they couldn't do it). I suspect they feel the same way about Phil. He can beat you deep and he can beat you with his legs. But he is going to throw into double or triple coverage 1 out of 10 times and force balls across the middle. If ND can get 2 or 3 takeaways this game is a beatdown.

I think so, yeah. ND doesn't have to respect the run very much but you do have to respect the TE as a security blanket. Also, I wouldn't bother to put a spy on the QB. Jurkovec hasn't been that aggressive or successful as a runner (he is very effective in short yardage situations).

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

Having watched way too much BC football this year, I can say definitively that they can’t run the ball and that they want to throw deep. If I’m ND I’m keeping two high safeties all game and waiting for the easy interceptions to come. Their underneath passing game is mostly throwing to their TE and I think we have the LBs to take that away.

The one thing ND should NOT do is blitz letting BC take shots down the field against single coverage. Their WRs are underrated and very solid players.

Yeah, the question is zone or cover 2? I think you mostly do the latter to take away the safe outlet throws.

 

[Irish YJ]

So what does everyone predict Lea's gameplan will be?

I'm thinking it looks like the USC game a year or two ago. Play coverage, rush 4, keep contain on Jurk to force him to throw from the pocket.

In that game Lea made SC put together 15 play drives to go down the field (they couldn't do it). I suspect they feel the same way about Phil. He can beat you deep and he can beat you with his legs. But he is going to throw into double or triple coverage 1 out of 10 times and force balls across the middle. If ND can get 2 or 3 takeaways this game is a beatdown.

I don't think Phil is the running threat we once though he might be. And not really worried about their running game in general. Flowers is the guy they need to cover, perhaps double. I see a lot of 3rd and longs....

 

[Irish YJ]

Having watched way too much BC football this year, I can say definitively that they can’t run the ball and that they want to throw deep. If I’m ND I’m keeping two high safeties all game and waiting for the easy interceptions to come. Their underneath passing game is mostly throwing to their TE and I think we have the LBs to take that away.

The one thing ND should NOT do is blitz letting BC take shots down the field against single coverage. Their WRs are underrated and very solid players.

I agree mostly, but I do think they should send an occasion LB blitz on 3rd and longs. Aside from Flowers, I'm not that worried about their WRs.

Didn't VT blitz them a bit?

 

[IrishLion]

Having watched way too much BC football this year, I can say definitively that they can’t run the ball and that they want to throw deep. If I’m ND I’m keeping two high safeties all game and waiting for the easy interceptions to come. Their underneath passing game is mostly throwing to their TE and I think we have the LBs to take that away.

The one thing ND should NOT do is blitz letting BC take shots down the field against single coverage. Their WRs are underrated and very solid players.

I think they'll sit back and keep Phil from trying to freestyle too much... the question is if the front four can get to him in a timely fashion (hoping 2OT of the Clemson game turned the lights on for the DL), or if he continues to look like Roethlisberger shrugging DL off to escape and make throws as coverage starts to break down, even when they're playing things like you're supposed to.

 

[Irishize]

Is BC’s leading tackler out? I forget his name but he’s an LB.

 

[notredomer23]

Is BC’s leading tackler out? I forget his name but he’s an LB.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jeff Hafley just said that he is hopeful that Isaiah McDuffie will be ready this weekend, but that he doesn't expect safety Mike Palmer to play.</p>— BC Bulletin (@BostonCollegeSi) <a href="https://twitter.com/BostonCollegeSi/status/1326216366886674432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is all I could find.

 

[Irishize]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jeff Hafley just said that he is hopeful that Isaiah McDuffie will be ready this weekend, but that he doesn't expect safety Mike Palmer to play.</p>— BC Bulletin (@BostonCollegeSi) <a href="https://twitter.com/BostonCollegeSi/status/1326216366886674432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is all I could find.

McDuffie! That’s him.

Thank you.

 

[Irish YJ]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jeff Hafley just said that he is hopeful that Isaiah McDuffie will be ready this weekend, but that he doesn't expect safety Mike Palmer to play.</p>— BC Bulletin (@BostonCollegeSi) <a href="https://twitter.com/BostonCollegeSi/status/1326216366886674432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is all I could find.

McD is their 2nd leading tackler. Palmer is 8th total, and 5th among DBs.

 

[notredomer23]

McD is their 2nd leading tackler. Palmer is 8th total, and 5th among DBs.

It looks like McDuffie was subbed out in the first quarter for injury last week. I can't find what the injury was though. He's had over 10 tackles in 5 games each. That would be a big loss for them. Palmer doesn't look like nearly as much of a loss based on stats alone.

 

[BobbyMac]

Is BC’s leading tackler out? I forget his name but he’s an LB.

The other LB, Richardson leads the nation in tackles. McDuffie is just #3 in the country.

 

[dad4aa]

The other LB, Richardson leads the nation in tackles. McDuffie is just #3 in the country.

Easy to be 1 and 3 in tackles in the nation when nobody else on your team plays defense

 

[Irish YJ]

It looks like McDuffie was subbed out in the first quarter for injury last week. I can't find what the injury was though. He's had over 10 tackles in 5 games each. That would be a big loss for them. Palmer doesn't look like nearly as much of a loss based on stats alone.

Wonder whey both their LBs are tops in tackles. Is their DL just super bad. Are teams running a ton at them. Are they not rotated. huh.

 

[Irishize]

Wonder whey both their LBs are tops in tackles. Is their DL just super bad. Are teams running a ton at them. Are they not rotated. huh.

For some reason I thought McDuffie was their leading tackler so thanks for the correction from both you & Crusader.

Maybe his numbers are misleading b/c PFF has him as the lowest rated starter on the the defense. Prister also said he misses a lot of plays when you go back to watch film. He seems to be out of position a lot. He’ll probably play like Luke Keuchley this Sat though..

 

[Wingman Ray]

Wonder whey both their LBs are tops in tackles. Is their DL just super bad. Are teams running a ton at them. Are they not rotated. huh.

Remember years ago there was a Mich St LB named Percy Snow or something like that? He absolutely killed it with a mindblowing number of tackles. But the defense was catered to pretty much occupy the offense so he could make tackles. Was a dud in the pros.

 

[notredomer23]

For some reason I thought McDuffie was their leading tackler so thanks for the correction from both you & Crusader.

Maybe his numbers are misleading b/c PFF has him as the lowest rated starter on the the defense. Prister also said he misses a lot of plays when you go back to watch film. He seems to be out of position a lot. He’ll probably play like Luke Keuchley this Sat though..

It makes me think of those early Kelly or Weis defenses where the safeties would end up having an absurd amount of tackles because everyone else was terrible. I seem to recall Chinidum Ndukwe having 22 tackles in a game. Maybe 2008 or 2009 David Bruton & Kyle McCarthy were the top tacklers. They weren't necessarily bad players, but those defenses were garbage.

 

[dublinirish]

PFF has McDuffie as BC's lowest ranked Defender. Tim Prister on II podcast savaged him as being a poor tackler and takes poor angles

 

[BobbyMac]

It makes me think of those early Kelly or Weis defenses where the safeties would end up having an absurd amount of tackles because everyone else was terrible. I seem to recall Chinidum Ndukwe having 22 tackles in a game. Maybe 2008 or 2009 David Bruton & Kyle McCarthy were the top tacklers. They weren't necessarily bad players, but those defenses were garbage.

Future NFL safeties have a way of racking up tackles in college when they are used as the 4th LB. This years D is pretty good and a safety is the leading tackler.

ND had some very un-Lea like D's under Charlie but the one thing ND did have was excellent safety play.

 

[IrishLion]

It makes me think of those early Kelly or Weis defenses where the safeties would end up having an absurd amount of tackles because everyone else was terrible. I seem to recall Chinidum Ndukwe having 22 tackles in a game. Maybe 2008 or 2009 David Bruton & Kyle McCarthy were the top tacklers. They weren't necessarily bad players, but those defenses were garbage.

Kind of *funny* story: Chinny is currently a key informant in a pretty big FBI bribery investigation of Cincinnati City Council. A councilman got elected and almost immediately started selling his votes in return for cash, laundered through a charity that he created.

Ndukwe's company is trying to rehab a significant site downtown, so the FBI tabbed him as an informant in the event that the councilman reached out about "helping" things move along.

(He was also turning into a pretty good NFL safety prior to two bad knee injuries, and will always be one of my favorite players if for nothing more than knocking Calvin Johnson out of his shoes.)

 

[stpeteirish]

It looks like McDuffie was subbed out in the first quarter for injury last week. I can't find what the injury was though. He's had over 10 tackles in 5 games each. That would be a big loss for them. Palmer doesn't look like nearly as much of a loss based on stats alone.

Palmer is addition by subtraction. McDuffie, OTOH, is arguably their best defender. Either he or Richardson.

 

[stpeteirish]

Wonder whey both their LBs are tops in tackles. Is their DL just super bad. Are teams running a ton at them. Are they not rotated. huh.

They rotate but only 1 DE and 1 DT based on Clemson game. They did a pretty good job on Etienne rushing until late then they got gashed some. LB's couldn't cover him on passes tho.

Looks like their scheme is for the DL to keep the blockers off the LB's. LB's don't miss many tackles so I'm not sure what PFF is basing their low rating on.

 

[IrishLax]

Kind of *funny* story: Chinny is currently a key informant in a pretty big FBI bribery investigation of Cincinnati City Council. A councilman got elected and almost immediately started selling his votes in return for cash, laundered through a charity that he created.

Ndukwe's company is trying to rehab a significant site downtown, so the FBI tabbed him as an informant in the event that the councilman reached out about "helping" things move along.

(He was also turning into a pretty good NFL safety prior to two bad knee injuries, and will always be one of my favorite players if for nothing more than knocking Calvin Johnson out of his shoes.)

I've seen this episode of The Wire.

 

[Irishize]

Kind of *funny* story: Chinny is currently a key informant in a pretty big FBI bribery investigation of Cincinnati City Council. A councilman got elected and almost immediately started selling his votes in return for cash, laundered through a charity that he created.

Ndukwe's company is trying to rehab a significant site downtown, so the FBI tabbed him as an informant in the event that the councilman reached out about "helping" things move along.

(He was also turning into a pretty good NFL safety prior to two bad knee injuries, and will always be one of my favorite players if for nothing more than knocking Calvin Johnson out of his shoes.)

IIRC, he & Brady Quinn we’re friends/teammates in HS. Willingham wasn’t recruiting BQ very hard so Ndukwe pushed the issue as he was already committed and finally got them to offer Brady. I could be remembering that wrong so forgive my memory.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

IIRC, he & Brady Quinn we&#146;re friends/teammates in HS. Willingham wasn&#146;t recruiting BQ very hard so Ndukwe pushed the issue as he was already committed and finally got them to offer Brady. I could be remembering that wrong so forgive my memory.

IIRC the situation was something like that. I recall that ND originally went out to Ohio to recruit Ndukwe and he eventually committed obviously. While on the recruiting trip they discovered Quinn. They hadn’t heard of Brady prior to the trip. They saw Brady in action and then offered him. I don’t recall Ndukwe pushing for Brady to get over Ed though.


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[zelezo vlk]

Pretty sure that Quinn wasn't being recruited until Ndukwe pushed. At least that's the version I heard

 

[Free Manera]

BC fans have no idea what's coming.

 

[AllTimeIrish]

BC fans have no idea what's coming.

This team hits hard. It will not be 1993.

 

[T-Boone]

Apart from a convincing win my big hopes are:
1. that Shayne Simon matches last weeks performance (but with better stats given the lesser opponent). It would be great if he has flicked (fluck?) a switch like Coney did in 17 and to a lesser extent Bilal did last year.
2. that Avery Davis continues to improve and Johnson gets in the game with a few catches.