Nov 11 | Miami (FL)

calvegas04 · Nov 5, 2017

IrishLax said:
LOVE being underdog. Overreaction to this weekend's games.

The team is going to need to sack up and bring their A game next week... biggest home game for Miami in ages.

ND is favored

loomis41973 · Nov 5, 2017

IrishLax said:
LOVE being underdog. Overreaction to this weekend's games.

The team is going to need to sack up and bring their A game next week... biggest home game for Miami in ages.

Amazes me how people can't read betting lines.

ND is favored.

SonofOahu · Nov 5, 2017

Dizzyphil said:
Miami -2.5
O/U 74

bcole2 said:
Excellent. Get the boys fired up when they see they are an underdog. (I realize this would be a pick em on a neutral site.)

By NFL betting-line norms, this means it's about even, right? I've heard that, for NFL teams, the home-field advantage is worth 3 points. Not sure if that's true, or not.

SonofOahu · Nov 5, 2017

ickythump1225 said:
In hindsight I'm not sure why we (me included) were so high on VA Tech beating Miami because VT has done nothing all year to merit that praise. They've lost to the only two ranked teams they've played all year and their marquee win is WVU. They could easily win 10 games and have their 2 best wins all year be WVU and GA Tech. Color me super unimpressed.

VaTech's playcalling was horrendous, at times. That direct-snap to the end-around, or whatever the hell that was, is straight bananas. They deserved to lose, the way they ran their offense.

calvegas04 · Nov 5, 2017

SonofOahu said:
By NFL betting-line norms, this means it's about even, right? I've heard that, for NFL teams, the home-field advantage is worth 3 points. Not sure if that's true, or not.

ND is favorite, on a neutral field ND would be a 7 point favorite

Green Mountains · Nov 5, 2017

Vegas Insider.com lists lines by Sportsbook. Wynn is ND minus 3.5. Online betting is ND minus 4.0. That’s all that’s listed currently.

IrishLax · Nov 5, 2017

loomis41973 said:
Amazes me how people can't read betting lines.

ND is favored.

Dizzy above said we were dog, just reading that. I actually write a weekly gambling column on ISD that is way over 60%.

BGIF · Nov 5, 2017

IrishLax said:
Dizzy above said we were dog, just reading that. I actually write a weekly gambling column on ISD that is way over 60%.

Yes, he did at 3:36pm

Miami -2.5
O/U 74

BGIF · Nov 5, 2017

Sagarin Forecasts Favorite ND to WIN and COVER

Sagarin Forecasts Favorite ND to WIN and COVER

Sagarin Models with HFA included ND 1.5 to 7.65 Favorite.

Rating Predictor Gold Recent
-6.44 -7.56 -3.00 -1.56

This seems like a wide range in point spread. I used to seeing 1 or 2 points difference. The PREDICTOR covers the entire season so I suspect it reflects MIA's somewhat softer schedule. The RECENT doesn't so I suspect it reflects MIA's 18 point win over VA Tech while late scores by Wake Forest made the ND game appear closer than it was. Sagarin doesn't account for a score with 30 seconds on the clock but doesn't consider the score as well as Wins, SOS, and MOV depending on the model.

Sagarin: Predicated Score MOV Total Points
ND @ MIA 34.45 - 22.62 11.83 57.07

NDGOLDEN · Nov 5, 2017

BGIF said:
Sagarin Models with HFA included ND 1.5 to 7.65 Favorite.

Rating Predictor Gold Recent
-6.44 -7.56 -3.00 -1.56

This seems like a wide range in point spread. I used to seeing 1 or 2 points difference. The PREDICTOR covers the entire season so I suspect it reflects MIA's somewhat softer schedule. The RECENT doesn't so I suspect it reflects MIA's 18 point win over VA Tech while late scores by Wake Forest made the ND game appear closer than it was. Sagarin doesn't account for a score with 30 seconds on the clock but doesn't consider the score as well as Wins, SOS, and MOV depending on the model.

Sagarin: Predicated Score MOV Total Points
ND @ MIA 34.45 - 22.62 11.83 57.07

So it’s predicting us to win by 12 right?

BGIF · Nov 5, 2017

https://247sports.com/college/miami/Bolt/Notre-Dame-Opens-As-Early-Favorite-Over-Miami-110024893
The books like Josh Adams and the Irish.

Andrew Ivins - 116 minutes ago

The first betting lines are out for next weekend's highly anticipated showdown between No. 7 Miami and No. 3 Notre Dame and the Hurricanes are an underdog.

VegasInsider.com's had the Fighting Irish as a consensus 4-point favorite over UM on Sunday.

Miami is fresh off a 28-10 beat down of Virginia Tech. Notre Dame on the other hand took down Wake Forest with a 48-37 win. The Irish lead the all-time series 18-7-1 and has won four straight including last year's meeting in South Bend.

loomis41973 · Nov 5, 2017

IrishLax said:
Dizzy above said we were dog, just reading that. I actually write a weekly gambling column on ISD that is way over 60%.

Dizzy was wrong or misinformed. Not sure why ANYONE would think we'd be a DOG here.

One would think someone who writes a "gambling column" would do better research. Do you write this these articles based on IE posts?

Not sure what one has to do with the other.

JMO

GowerND11 · Nov 5, 2017

I hope we're super classless and distateful with our signs.

https://www.canesinsight.com/thread/game-day-signs/125420?

I love the U...

loomis41973 · Nov 5, 2017

GowerND11 said:
https://www.canesinsight.com/thread/game-day-signs/125420?

I love the U...

The turn over Jesus chain was pretty good.....the rest mostly tasteless.

irishnd31 · Nov 5, 2017

GowerND11 said:
https://www.canesinsight.com/thread/game-day-signs/125420?

I love the U...

Aah, the ramblings of the under educated. So adorable.

GowerND11 · Nov 5, 2017

loomis41973 said:
The turn over Jesus chain was pretty good.....the rest mostly tasteless.

I did chuckle at that one, but yeah.. they are some abhorrent human beings.

Their spelling is that of a 12 year old using AIM...

BGIF · Nov 5, 2017

loomis41973 said:
Dizzy was wrong or misinformed. Not sure why ANYONE would think we'd be a DOG here.

One would think someone who writes a "gambling column" would do better research.

Not sure what one has to do with the other.

JMO

No, not your opinion; your pissing contest. Your drive by. dizzy clearly was the poster with a minus in front of Miami. Perhaps he say early odds which changed, perhaps dizzy made a typo. dizzy's post was up about an hour before anyone else posted a spread. You even commented on the O/U long before commenting about MIA being the favorite.

Regardless, for some reason you went trolling after Lax. You included a copy of his post and only his post. No mention of dizzy nor anyone else, just Lax. He mentioned the gambling article to explain his familiarity with the subject because you went after him. Yet you came back at him with another swipe wondering why he would mention that.

Like I said in the neg rep you earned for your BS. "Take the pissing contest elsewhere." You're the only one pissing.

ickythump1225 · Nov 5, 2017

I do enjoy the fact that Miami and their "fans" embrace unabashedly the heel role in CFB. Mark Richt, for his clean cut image the media has bestowed upon him, always led pretty classless and thuggish UGA teams. I'll never forget when he had every player on the UGA sideline storm the field and stomp in endzone after they scored on the opening drive of the game in the Cocktail party in '07. I expect full on bad guy retro 80s Jimmy Johnson era Hurricane behavior on Saturday.

This is a game where I really hope we just RTDB all day long. I want 33 Trucking fueled and ready to roll. I want to physically wear them down and break them. Chucking the ball around the yard like it was 2015 against Wake was fun and all but it isn't quite as satisfying as physically manhandling your opponent.

These guys think they're tough but I want them to prove it in the trenches for 60 minutes because I think our guys are stronger and more physical than they are.

loomis41973 · Nov 5, 2017

BGIF said:
No, not your opinion; your pissing contest. Your drive by. dizzy clearly was the poster with a minus in front of Miami. Perhaps he say early odds which changed, perhaps dizzy made a typo. dizzy's post was up about an hour before anyone else posted a spread. You even commented on the O/U long before commenting about MIA being the favorite.

Regardless, for some reason you went trolling after Lax. You included a copy of his post and only his post. No mention of dizzy nor anyone else, just Lax. He mentioned the gambling article to explain his familiarity with the subject because you went after him. Yet you came back at him with another swipe wondering why he would mention that.

Like I said in the neg rep you earned for your BS. "Take the pissing contest elsewhere." You're the only one pissing.

Wow dude...you need better reading skillz. I said being an underdog was silly. No trolling at all...someone who writes gambling columns should realize...without a 2nd thought that the # posted by dizzy was wrong.

No pissing contests...except maybe by you. You get what you give, Son.

BGIF · Nov 5, 2017

ND -3 Vegas Insider

loomis41973 · Nov 5, 2017

ickythump1225 said:
I do enjoy the fact that Miami and their "fans" embrace unabashedly the heel role in CFB. Mark Richt, for his clean cut image the media has bestowed upon him, always led pretty classless and thuggish UGA teams. I'll never forget when he had every player on the UGA sideline storm the field and stomp in endzone after they scored on the opening drive of the game in the Cocktail party in '07. I expect full on bad guy retro 80s Jimmy Johnson era Hurricane behavior on Saturday.

This is a game where I really hope we just RTDB all day long. I want 33 Trucking fueled and ready to roll. I want to physically wear them down and break them. Chucking the ball around the yard like it was 2015 against Wake was fun and all but it isn't quite as satisfying as physically manhandling your opponent.

These guys think they're tough but I want them to prove it in the trenches for 60 minutes because I think our guys are stronger and more physical than they are.[/QUOTE]

Amen

BeatSC · Nov 5, 2017

Am I the only concerned that with gameday there that Lee Corsica might pick the Hurricanes!!!!! What are we going to do?! What ex Miami thug/convict will they get to pick the game? Corso can redeeem himself by jumping on the ND train but he is probably too far gone into his senility to wise up. Maybe Hrtbstreet will nudge him to make a coherent pick. All the ESPN team has been on the ND wagon for weeks. Corso is just a meascot for the show at this point. Starting to remind me of mumbles from Dick Tracy.

nd_fan · Nov 5, 2017

Now that Miami had a good win against VT, their fans have come out of the wood work and talking a whole lot of trash. I can't wait for ND to destroy them. I hope it 30+ points.

BeatSC · Nov 5, 2017

Not too much talk about the squeaker against UNC with their backup in the game. UNC had the ball and was driving for the winning score and coughed it up. The wake game felt like another 20 point win since that was the difference during the game when it mattered. Wake scored twice during diaco prevent time.

IrishLax · Nov 5, 2017

loomis41973 said:
Dizzy was wrong or misinformed. Not sure why ANYONE would think we'd be a DOG here.

One would think someone who writes a "gambling column" would do better research.

Not sure what one has to do with the other.

JMO

What's your problem?

I'm posting on my phone from an airport, not exactly doing "research" right now. Just read the line Dizzy posted and responded... what's the big deal? Reason I mentioned what I did was because you were talking about "not reading lines" and I was reading the posted line I saw in the thread. When someone says "Miami -2.5" that'd mean we're the dog.

MNIrishman · Nov 5, 2017

IrishLax said:
What's your problem?

I'm posting on my phone from an airport, not exactly doing "research" right now. Just read the line Dizzy posted and responded... what's the big deal? Reason I mentioned what I did was because you were talking about "not reading lines" and I was reading the posted line I saw in the thread.

Some people take gambling seriously, Lax. Don't know why someone's trying to jump down your throat for a casual reply to a minor datapoint.

notredomer23 · Nov 5, 2017

IrishLax said:
What's your problem?

I'm posting on my phone from an airport, not exactly doing "research" right now. Just read the line Dizzy posted and responded... what's the big deal? Reason I mentioned what I did was because you were talking about "not reading lines" and I was reading the posted line I saw in the thread. When someone says "Miami -2.5" that'd mean we're the dog.

You didn't hear? The internet? It's serious business.

dwshade · Nov 5, 2017

Latest line I saw was ND opened as a 1.5 favorite, went up to 4 and now is at 3.

loomis41973 · Nov 5, 2017

IrishLax said:
What's your problem?

I'm posting on my phone from an airport, not exactly doing "research" right now. Just read the line Dizzy posted and responded... what's the big deal? Reason I mentioned what I did was because you were talking about "not reading lines" and I was reading the posted line I saw in the thread. When someone says "Miami -2.5" that'd mean we're the dog.

No problems.

Sorry man...just thinking ND would be a dog in this game would be outside of common knowledge of the even casual gambler....not much "research" needed.

Wish I could bet on some of the "posted" lines I've seen on the hurricane sites.

Hope your flight is safe and enjoyable as possible.

BobbyMac · Nov 5, 2017

dwshade said:
Latest line I saw was ND opened as a 1.5 favorite, went up to 4 and now is at 3.

Is that an offshore line you can share or is that VI's Consensus Line Movement?

I looked for that -1.5 when VI posted it and couldn't find it.

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