Next ND Offensive Coordinator - the search

[GATTACA!]

1. So he prefers this look instead?
2. So he doesn't trust MF?

Notre Dame should be Mercedes and instead they are Haas. Total wankers.

Nah we’re Williams. Used to be a big deal but are a joke now.

 

[MPClinton22]

Would love to know why JS wasn't high on Ludwig. Ludwig, by almost everyone's opinion, would've been a homerun hire. What gives?

I wouldn't put it past JS's ego that he didn't want Ludwig to come in and completely show up his personal project of Tommy Rees

 

[irishog77]

Wouldn't Ludwig himself probably offer the contract for inspection?

I mean it's not like you can just go online and download his contract.

 

[NDFAN2008]

Has Jeff Grimes been eliminated?

Has served in OC/OL roles before. Seems like that might be a good place to turn?

Would want a OC who has experience teaching QB's

 

[NDdomer2]

I woulda been happier if they woulda just offered him in the first place compared to going back and then offering him

everyone walking around with egg on their face lol.

Andy back in Utah, Gerad with his OC title that feels unearned like his first one.

 

[BeauBenken]

Odd move by Ludwig to sign a contract with an outrageously high buyout and then go looking for a new job in the span of a couple weeks.

 

[GrangerIrish24]

So for the last week we have been screaming at the beat writers cause they have zero information but are now listening to everything they have to say on this matter?

 

[NDdomer2]

There is zero chance they got his old contract. This isn’t a matter of doing a Google search and finding the wrong article (like us). These are paid agents and legitimate contracts.


I can believe they never expected to pay it actually, and assumed a negotiation was there to be had.

exactly, still so much that isnt adding up here and too many people not caring to try and do the math.

 

[Luckylucci]

I'm just shocked that the ND fanbase/beat is either so love sick with Freeman or stupid to just blindly run with this narrative that ND lacks the fortitude to pay Ludwig's buyout so Freeman is forced to hire Parker. There is a long road to travel from Ludwig not being an option and hiring Parker. If Parker is hired, it's because Freeman chose that route over others.

 

[Giddyup]

Odd move by Ludwig to sign a contract with an outrageously high buyout and then go looking for a new job in the span of a couple weeks.

Yeah something isn’t adding up. Maybe Ludwig never had any intention of coming to ND

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

There is zero chance they got his old contract. This isn’t a matter of doing a Google search and finding the wrong article (like us). These are paid agents and legitimate contracts.


I can believe they never expected to pay it actually, and assumed a negotiation was there to be had.

This is where I'm at. It's only plausible if you believe the people in charge of million dollar negotiations and a billion dollar brand, are bumbling idiots. The first thing you do is request up-to-date info, right?

 

[thekid33]

we’re Williams. Used to be a big deal but are a joke now.

Fair point. And one that hurts more.

 

[dankgesang]

Wait a minute, I thought he was perniciously involved in some misbehavior with children. You're saying he's a villain because he worked for a firm who took on defendants they successfully 'defended' against charges only for those same people to be found guilty later on?

This doesn't even register on my radar. I guess anything can be spun but most people do their jobs in the moment unless their clients 'bared their souls' to their lawyers which is. highly unlikely. Psychopaths/predators/sociopaths maintain innocence through everything so the firm intended on representing their clients to the best of their abilities. I'm also grateful that the truth came out and these monsters that were successfully defended, eventually were sentenced (or at least i'm assuming?).

I have 3 children under 9, if any of them were ever abused and we took legal action, I wouldn't claim the lawyers were indirectly responsible for the abuse. There would be plenty of terrible things to say about the predators. Lawyers work with the information they have and they try to put together a case.

If you had defended someone and believed their innocence only to find out they were guilty, wouldn't you try to minimize your association with them.

Back to the OC, none of us is changing this course we're on. That was my main criticism (and I find the wild hysterical whinging hilarious (thanks for the correction). I'm infuriated we didn't get Ludwig but I'm waiting to see how this plays out.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I'm just shocked that the ND fanbase/beat is either so love sick with Freeman or stupid to just blindly run with this narrative that ND lacks the fortitude to pay Ludwig's buyout so Freeman is forced to hire Parker. There is a long road to travel from Ludwig not being an option and hiring Parker. If Parker is hired, it's because Freeman chose that route over others.

Yeah, I'd keep looking. Ludwig would have been great, but Touchdown Jesus Christ, there is a lot of other talent out there to acquire. There is no reason to just hand this over to Parker.

 

[MacIrish75]

1. So he prefers this look instead?
2. So he doesn't trust MF?

Notre Dame should be Mercedes and instead they are Haas. Total wankers.

Their avocados are fantastic, though…

 

[Domina Nostra]

I could not see JS vetoing MF on football matters, but I could see JS coming to the conclusion that ND was not going to hire an OC that is not a passionate, dynamic recruiter...

 

[TNUtoNotreDame]

Yeah, I'd keep looking. Ludwig would have been great, but Touchdown Jesus Christ, there is a lot of other talent out there to acquire. There is no reason to just hand this over to Parker.

If we get Parker then I will be pissed, right now I am just frustrated because ND cannot get out of it's own way (yet again). They better see the revolt that is simmering and do better than Parker.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I don’t think Parker actually did much at WVU it was still Neal Brown’s show so less concerned about the output under him as OC as just he actually has a nonexistent resume to be the OC.

You’re essentially hiring someone with zero experience as far as I’m concerned.

So he was Scott Frost at Oregon with worse results.

 

[sfk324]

Wait a minute, I thought he was perniciously involved in some misbehavior with children. You're saying he's a villain because he worked for a firm who took on defendants they successfully 'defended' against charges only for those same people to be found guilty later on?

This doesn't even register on my radar. I guess anything can be spun but most people do their jobs in the moment unless their clients 'bared their souls' to their lawyers which is. highly unlikely. Psychopaths/predators/sociopaths maintain innocence through everything so the firm intended on representing their clients to the best of their abilities. I'm also grateful that the truth came out and these monsters that were successfully defended, eventually were sentenced (or at least i'm assuming?).

I have 3 children under 9, if any of them were ever abused and we took legal action, I wouldn't claim the lawyers were indirectly responsible for the abuse. There would be plenty of terrible things to say about the predators. Lawyers work with the information they have and they try to put together a case.

If you had defended someone and believed their innocence only to find out they were guilty, wouldn't you try to minimize your association with them.

Back to the OC, none of us is changing this course we're on. That was my main criticism (and I find the wild hysterical whinging hilarious (thanks for the correction). I'm infuriated we didn't get Ludwig but I'm waiting to see how this plays out.

That's not an accurate portrayal of what he did.

He was general counsel for USA Gymnastics and in that role, developed policies and procedures that provided cover for and allowed for the continued sexual abuse of hundreds of children and teens over an extended period of time. He went as far as actively dissuading the organization from providing guidance on how to identify signs of or handle allegations of sexual abuse. His work at USA Gymnastics was a big selling point when he was brought on as AD. Once the shit hit the fan on what was going on at USA Gymnastics, he claimed attorney client privilege so he wouldn't have to answer questions and the university scrubbed his bio of any and all references to said work. He's also provided cover for BK and the rest of the football operation after the death of a student in a completely preventable incident (I refuse to call it an accident because it wasn't one).

It's really weird that people continue to defend him. If the University had any integrity, they would have shown him the door years ago.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

ND Alum:

 

[Dale]

Now apparently the story with Klein was he bombed the interview, even though he was the first person offered the job?


The misinformation is astounding. Nothing is an accurate, full portrayal.

 

[NDFAN2008]

Now apparently the story with Klein was he bombed the interview, even though he was the first person offered the job?


The misinformation is astounding. Nothing is an accurate, full portrayal.

Did Sean Lewis every come in to interview? Do we know who has interviewed so far?

 

[KyfightingIrish36]

I'm just shocked that the ND fanbase/beat is either so love sick with Freeman or stupid to just blindly run with this narrative that ND lacks the fortitude to pay Ludwig's buyout so Freeman is forced to hire Parker. There is a long road to travel from Ludwig not being an option and hiring Parker. If Parker is hired, it's because Freeman chose that route over others.

How many guys do you want to go through then? Couldn’t get Klein, Lewis not a culture fit, Moorhead new extension, got smacked down by Brian Johnson. Can’t keep looking around like the girl that got dumped at prom. Bryon Leftwhich shouldn’t have been offered I agree but Ludwig was probably the 3rd or 4th call. I’d say Freeman at least checked in with Hartline. I mean at some point you have to put someone in place to provide some stability.

 

[goldendomer89]

This is just the latest example of why ND is not serious winning about championships.

They're just Iowa with more history/tradition.

 

[Crazy Balki]

Now apparently the story with Klein was he bombed the interview, even though he was the first person offered the job?


The misinformation is astounding. Nothing is an accurate, full portrayal.

I can 100% buy this.

Watching Klein do his press conferences, he does not come off as very personable.

 

[SoIll]

So it pretty much sounds like no-one really knows what in the actual fuck is going on?

 

[Luckylucci]

How many guys do you want to go through then? Couldn’t get Klein, Lewis not a culture fit, Moorhead new extension, got smacked down by Brian Johnson. Can’t keep looking around like the girl that got dumped at prom. Bryon Leftwhich shouldn’t have been offered I agree but Ludwig was probably the 3rd or 4th call. I’d say Freeman at least checked in with Hartline. I mean at some point you have to put someone in place to provide some stability.

Well, I'm not sure I'd categorize all those guys as candidates that they went through.

There was never any communication with Moorehead, so that's a choice by Freeman well within his control. Lewis was never brought on campus, also within their control. Brian Johnson was a very ambitious candidate so they always should've had other candidates at the ready. Leftwich seems like a waste of time. All of those decisions bring us to this spot.

So, I think you might be missing some of the point of my post. A lot of what has transpired is on Freeman for the process, the candidates, and the time invested to get here.

Where you feel like there is no time left and he must hire Parker. If Parker is ultimately hired, because as you put it, you have to have someone in place for stability. The road traveled to this spot is littered with bumps made by a rookie HC. Not an admin hell bent on being cheap.

 

[StPaul_Irish]

OK, i am sick of this shit. Lets move on and start a new list. I wanted Klein, then Ludwig, and will want the next guy.

LETS GO:

Yurcich
Lindgren
Grimes/Streeter as QB
Kotelnicki/Streeter as QB

 

[IrishLax]

We should look into Tommy Ress from Alabama. Young guy with high upside, well thought of in NFL. Previously coached and played at Notre Dame. Seems like it could be a good fit.

 

[stlnd01]

There is zero chance they got his old contract. This isn’t a matter of doing a Google search and finding the wrong article (like us). These are paid agents and legitimate contracts.


I can believe they never expected to pay it actually, and assumed a negotiation was there to be had.

If it’s true that Notre Dame let BK and Rees walk without collecting buyouts, you could see them expecting Utah to do same.