ND Coaching Changes 2016

[PANDFAN]

Ballou ...247 is trying to get clarification as to what's going on

 

[IrishFanForever23]

Ballou ...247 is trying to get clarification as to what's going on

Ditto from ISD. They said as of this past weekend, it seemed Ballou would be on staff.

 

[Irish#1]

The new rule changes will take place after this class is in the book, so all the alarmist, and dramatists will have to find something else to point to to claim the sky is falling.

I just talked to someone today who clearly stated Long is the OC and will be handling all play calling, and the Tight Ends, (at this point, subject to change, but not probable.)
They saw Kelly as having interaction with the quarterbacks, but they all seemed to think Tommy Rees would be hired as a GA and given a lot bigger job than most GA's have, related to working with the quarterbacks.

Everything else is good, and well listed, except there is a nagging question as to if Elston can handle the d-line. Bunches of folks think that position group needs to get grown up fast. Elston's positives are moving recruiting forward at ND, in spite of some real trogs, and the effort he made to kluge something together for the defense, after BVG was let go. He made a lot of friends with that.

Something big is happening on the recruiting front with late offerers, and with some offers that don't materialize in this class (like another linebacker._

But ND had four or five or six guys out there working so hard that some of the guys we thought were supermen a few years back would look puny by comparison. Still no sign of BK.

Certainly sounds positive.

 

[NDinBoston]

Just talked with someone who said Tommy Rees will be a GA until the NCAA rules about having 10 coaches. Will either remain as a GA or become the QB coach depending on the ruling.

I would love to see Rees stay a GA - give him lots of responsibility and experience - but add a 2nd DL coach like they have at Clemson. That would mitigate the concerns about Elston and send a skrong message to DL recruits.

 

[dad4aa]

I would love to see Rees stay a GA - give him lots of responsibility and experience - but add a 2nd DL coach like they have at Clemson. That would mitigate the concerns about Elston and send a skrong message to DL recruits.

I like your way of thinking.

 

[NDinBoston]

I think he visited Michael Young and Drew White as well.

You are right, BK definitely visited both and met with Hammertime today.

 

[NDinBoston]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Three Ducks football players remain hospitalized today following a series of grueling workouts last week <a href="https://t.co/BW3WBmrfFf">https://t.co/BW3WBmrfFf</a></p>— Andrew Greif (@AndrewGreif) <a href="https://twitter.com/AndrewGreif/status/821157785203130368">January 17, 2017</a></blockquote>
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At least three Oregon Ducks football players were hospitalized after enduring a series of grueling strength and conditioning workouts at UO last week, The Oregonian/OregonLive has learned.

Offensive linemen Doug Brenner and Sam Poutasi and tight end Cam McCormick are in fair condition and remained at PeaceHealth Sacred Heart Medical Center at Riverbend in Springfield on Monday, a hospital spokeswoman said. They have been in the hospital since late last week after workouts that occurred during the team's return from holiday break.

Poutasi's mother, Oloka, said that her son complained of very sore arms after the workouts and had been diagnosed with rhabdomyolysis, a syndrome in which soft muscle tissue is broken down with "leakage into the blood stream of muscle contents," according to the NCAA medical handbook. Depending on the severity, it has the potential to lead to damaged kidneys.

"The safety and welfare of all of our student-athletes is paramount in all that we do," Oregon wrote in a statement on behalf of the entire athletic department. "While we cannot comment on the health of our individual students, we have implemented modifications as we transition back into full training to prevent further occurrences.

"We thank our medical staff and trainers for their continued monitoring of the students and we will continue to support our young men as they recover."

Oregon coach Willie Taggart visited Riverbend to meet with some of the hospitalized players before leaving the state to recruit.

Players this week were required to finish the same workouts, which were described by multiple sources as akin to military basic training, with one said to include up to an hour of continuous push-ups and up-downs. The sources said that some players "passed out" and others later complained of discolored urine, which is a common symptom of rhabdomyolysis. After testing, others were found to have highly elevated levels of creatine kinase, an indicator of the syndrome.

Rhabdomyolysis can be triggered after a spike in intensity of an athlete's workouts and by overexertion during those workouts. For the first time since 2004, Oregon did not qualify for a postseason bowl game in 2016, and players were left to exercise on their own during their nearly monthlong break from school. Oregon hired Irele Oderinde its new football strength and conditioning coach earlier this month. He followed Taggart from South Florida, where Oderinde had worked as the school's director of athletic performance since 2014.

The 6-foot-2, 310-pound Brenner is entering his senior season, while the 6-4, 315-pound Poutasi and 6-5, 240-pound McCormick will be eligible to play in 2017 after using last fall to redshirt.

Reports of multiple players being affected by rhabdomyolysis are rare. In August, eight volleyball players from Texas Women's University were hospitalized. In 2011, 13 players from the University of Iowa were hospitalized due to the syndrome after working out during their winter conditioning program. In August 2010, two dozen football players from McMinnville High School were hospitalized, with some requiring surgery, after complaining of intense workouts held in high heat with little water.

The NCAA medical handbook listed "novel workouts or exercises immediately following a transitional period" such as a winter break as one of its 10 factors that can increase the risk of rhabdomyolysis. It also cautioned that "all training programs should start slowly, build gradually, include adequate rest and allow for individual differences."
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Wow, just wow.

 

[ND Fan Vancouver]

I would love to see Rees stay a GA - give him lots of responsibility and experience - but add a 2nd DL coach like they have at Clemson. That would mitigate the concerns about Elston and send a skrong message to DL recruits.

I think Tommy will be great as QB coach. I really do. His football IQ is very high. Coaches son.

 

[NDinBoston]

I think Tommy will be great as QB coach. I really do. His football IQ is very high. Coaches son.

Agreed 100%! To be clear, my idea is NOT a slight on Rees, but rather I think ND can do him right in a GA capacity, while ALSO using that 10th spot for a 2nd DL coach. I think that would be HUGE.

If Rees stays more than one year further changes could occur opening up a position for him.

 

[BobbyMac]

I think Tommy will be great as QB coach. I really do. His football IQ is very high. Coaches son.

My Dad was a boilermaker. I can't weld worth a damn.

 

[Free Manera]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Three Ducks football players remain hospitalized today following a series of grueling workouts last week <a href="https://t.co/BW3WBmrfFf">https://t.co/BW3WBmrfFf</a></p>— Andrew Greif (@AndrewGreif) <a href="https://twitter.com/AndrewGreif/status/821157785203130368">January 17, 2017</a></blockquote>
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At least three Oregon Ducks football players were hospitalized after enduring a series of grueling strength and conditioning workouts at UO last week, The Oregonian/OregonLive has learned.

Offensive linemen Doug Brenner and Sam Poutasi and tight end Cam McCormick are in fair condition and remained at PeaceHealth Sacred Heart Medical Center at Riverbend in Springfield on Monday, a hospital spokeswoman said. They have been in the hospital since late last week after workouts that occurred during the team's return from holiday break.

Poutasi's mother, Oloka, said that her son complained of very sore arms after the workouts and had been diagnosed with rhabdomyolysis, a syndrome in which soft muscle tissue is broken down with "leakage into the blood stream of muscle contents," according to the NCAA medical handbook. Depending on the severity, it has the potential to lead to damaged kidneys.

"The safety and welfare of all of our student-athletes is paramount in all that we do," Oregon wrote in a statement on behalf of the entire athletic department. "While we cannot comment on the health of our individual students, we have implemented modifications as we transition back into full training to prevent further occurrences.

"We thank our medical staff and trainers for their continued monitoring of the students and we will continue to support our young men as they recover."

Oregon coach Willie Taggart visited Riverbend to meet with some of the hospitalized players before leaving the state to recruit.

Players this week were required to finish the same workouts, which were described by multiple sources as akin to military basic training, with one said to include up to an hour of continuous push-ups and up-downs. The sources said that some players "passed out" and others later complained of discolored urine, which is a common symptom of rhabdomyolysis. After testing, others were found to have highly elevated levels of creatine kinase, an indicator of the syndrome.

Rhabdomyolysis can be triggered after a spike in intensity of an athlete's workouts and by overexertion during those workouts. For the first time since 2004, Oregon did not qualify for a postseason bowl game in 2016, and players were left to exercise on their own during their nearly monthlong break from school. Oregon hired Irele Oderinde its new football strength and conditioning coach earlier this month. He followed Taggart from South Florida, where Oderinde had worked as the school's director of athletic performance since 2014.

The 6-foot-2, 310-pound Brenner is entering his senior season, while the 6-4, 315-pound Poutasi and 6-5, 240-pound McCormick will be eligible to play in 2017 after using last fall to redshirt.

Reports of multiple players being affected by rhabdomyolysis are rare. In August, eight volleyball players from Texas Women's University were hospitalized. In 2011, 13 players from the University of Iowa were hospitalized due to the syndrome after working out during their winter conditioning program. In August 2010, two dozen football players from McMinnville High School were hospitalized, with some requiring surgery, after complaining of intense workouts held in high heat with little water.

The NCAA medical handbook listed "novel workouts or exercises immediately following a transitional period" such as a winter break as one of its 10 factors that can increase the risk of rhabdomyolysis. It also cautioned that "all training programs should start slowly, build gradually, include adequate rest and allow for individual differences."
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Wow, just wow.

1. Rhabdo is no joke. I hope those kids are alright.
2. That is reckless behavior by the strength coach. Served no purpose other than sending a message that he was the new big dog.

 

[NDinBoston]

1. Rhabdo is no joke. I hope those kids are alright.
2. That is reckless behavior by the strength coach. Served no purpose other than sending a message that he was the new big dog.

Yeah, and he came with Taggart so there is a familiarity aka no plausible deniability.

No bueno.

 

[BoredIrish]

1. Rhabdo is no joke. I hope those kids are alright.
2. That is reckless behavior by the strength coach. Served no purpose other than sending a message that he was the new big dog.

Someone needs to forward this article to Thomas Graham.

 

[NDinBoston]

Someone needs to forward this article to Thomas Graham.

Great point but I think he might be an EE.

 

[Calabrese's People]

Was...was that a Tilda Swinton gif?

Whaaaat?

 

[Sherm Sticky]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Three Ducks football players remain hospitalized today following a series of grueling workouts last week <a href="https://t.co/BW3WBmrfFf">https://t.co/BW3WBmrfFf</a></p>— Andrew Greif (@AndrewGreif) <a href="https://twitter.com/AndrewGreif/status/821157785203130368">January 17, 2017</a></blockquote>
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At least three Oregon Ducks football players were hospitalized after enduring a series of grueling strength and conditioning workouts at UO last week, The Oregonian/OregonLive has learned.

Offensive linemen Doug Brenner and Sam Poutasi and tight end Cam McCormick are in fair condition and remained at PeaceHealth Sacred Heart Medical Center at Riverbend in Springfield on Monday, a hospital spokeswoman said. They have been in the hospital since late last week after workouts that occurred during the team's return from holiday break.

Poutasi's mother, Oloka, said that her son complained of very sore arms after the workouts and had been diagnosed with rhabdomyolysis, a syndrome in which soft muscle tissue is broken down with "leakage into the blood stream of muscle contents," according to the NCAA medical handbook. Depending on the severity, it has the potential to lead to damaged kidneys.

"The safety and welfare of all of our student-athletes is paramount in all that we do," Oregon wrote in a statement on behalf of the entire athletic department. "While we cannot comment on the health of our individual students, we have implemented modifications as we transition back into full training to prevent further occurrences.

"We thank our medical staff and trainers for their continued monitoring of the students and we will continue to support our young men as they recover."

Oregon coach Willie Taggart visited Riverbend to meet with some of the hospitalized players before leaving the state to recruit.

Players this week were required to finish the same workouts, which were described by multiple sources as akin to military basic training, with one said to include up to an hour of continuous push-ups and up-downs. The sources said that some players "passed out" and others later complained of discolored urine, which is a common symptom of rhabdomyolysis. After testing, others were found to have highly elevated levels of creatine kinase, an indicator of the syndrome.

Rhabdomyolysis can be triggered after a spike in intensity of an athlete's workouts and by overexertion during those workouts. For the first time since 2004, Oregon did not qualify for a postseason bowl game in 2016, and players were left to exercise on their own during their nearly monthlong break from school. Oregon hired Irele Oderinde its new football strength and conditioning coach earlier this month. He followed Taggart from South Florida, where Oderinde had worked as the school's director of athletic performance since 2014.

The 6-foot-2, 310-pound Brenner is entering his senior season, while the 6-4, 315-pound Poutasi and 6-5, 240-pound McCormick will be eligible to play in 2017 after using last fall to redshirt.

Reports of multiple players being affected by rhabdomyolysis are rare. In August, eight volleyball players from Texas Women's University were hospitalized. In 2011, 13 players from the University of Iowa were hospitalized due to the syndrome after working out during their winter conditioning program. In August 2010, two dozen football players from McMinnville High School were hospitalized, with some requiring surgery, after complaining of intense workouts held in high heat with little water.

The NCAA medical handbook listed "novel workouts or exercises immediately following a transitional period" such as a winter break as one of its 10 factors that can increase the risk of rhabdomyolysis. It also cautioned that "all training programs should start slowly, build gradually, include adequate rest and allow for individual differences."
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Wow, just wow.

My god!


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[philipm31]

Edited for you, but I'm not sure all have been confirmed so TIFWIW.

Remaining in place:

Heistand @ OL, Denson @ RB, Lyght @ DB

Thank you for spelling POLIAN correctly.

That has been bugging me for ages.

 

[Irish#1]

My god!


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First requisite for being a S&C coach is have some crazy "out of the box" routine you came up with to make you appear "leading edge" and "heads and tails" above others programs. Only way to get ahead of everyone else.

 

[PANDFAN]

My god!


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i have had it and its NO JOKE...the soreness is NOTHING like just sore muscles

 

[IrishLion]

I'm actually amazed that Iowa came out of their 2011 incident unscathed in any way, shape or form. After those two dozen kids in high school got it in 2010, it was like Iowa's strength coach saw it as a challenge for their winter conditioning the next year. Working the team to where 13(!) college athletes are over-worked to the point of organ damage and hospitalization is just reckless and negligent...

Kirk Ferentz awarded that strength coach an assistant coach award that year.

 

[FDNYIrish1]

Completely disgusting that any strength and conditioning professional doesn't know better than this. The days of beating people up as some sort of gut check should be in the past. Any idiot can make people tired, a professional makes you better. Radcliffe was one of the best in the biz, he must be sick over this amateur doing this to kids he cares about.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Ballou ...247 is trying to get clarification as to what's going on

Ditto from ISD. They said as of this past weekend, it seemed Ballou would be on staff.

There are no current rule changes that affect MBallou's hire. Talk to BGIF. He is even more tired than I am of the ego-centered dramatists insistence that rules not yet adopted by the NCAA affect Ballou's hire.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

I think he visited Michael Young and Drew White as well.

You are right, BK definitely visited both and met with Hammertime today.

Yeah, well he has seen a number of current commits recently. Which is one of the things he needed to do, no doubt. But didn't he always do a lot of in homes at this time of year?

I don't know as much about the recruiting process as some of you, but earlier in the process, I think guys like Urban (who has been cleaning up), Dabo, and Nick all talk to their top perspective recruits. I think I read somewhere that Urban follows up on every recruiting assistant contact with a player or his hs program.

So, it's great that Kelly is visible. But he needs to be a force.

Another point that occurs to me is that Joe Moore may have been the last successful assistant that wouldn't recruit. How many programs getting top ten talent every year have had guys like BVG, BDiaco, etc on staff, with their head coach taking a relatively pedestrian approach, themselves?

 

[PANDFAN]

There are no current rule changes that affect MBallou's hire. Talk to BGIF. He is even more tired than I am of the ego-centered dramatists insistence that rules not yet adopted by the NCAA affect Ballou's hire.

i understand however there are legit concerns that it hasn't been announced from ND and he is currently at img

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Dude, Panda, can you update the OP in this thread please/thanks?!

 

[PANDFAN]

Dude, Panda, can you update the OP in this thread please/thanks?!

sure..heading to lunch..will get

 

[IrishLax]

i understand however there are legit concerns that it hasn't been announced from ND and he is currently at img

Yes, yesterday evening ISD confirmed the rumor that the hire could be "on hold" pending the new rule. They also confirmed that some (re: Balis, etc.) still expect it to get worked out and for him to be on staff. We'll probably know sooner rather than later whether this is ND compliance being overly cautious or if it's truly dead. I really hope they can find a way to bring him on board.

 

[IrishFanForever23]

There are no current rule changes that affect MBallou's hire. Talk to BGIF. He is even more tired than I am of the ego-centered dramatists insistence that rules not yet adopted by the NCAA affect Ballou's hire.

So the team had their first introduction with Balis today. No word on Ballou being there...

 

[PANDFAN]

So the team had their first introduction with Balis today. No word on Ballou being there...

nor balis

 

[IrishFanForever23]

nor balis

Balis was there. ISD reported a player with the quote "this guy's insane."