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Balis was there. ISD reported a player with the quote "this guy's insane."

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">First day of winter conditioning was ass kicking 🤘🏾🔥😈☘</p>— Nyles Morgan (@Obey_Pride) <a href="https://twitter.com/Obey_Pride/status/821420430741372930">January 17, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Three Ducks football players remain hospitalized today following a series of grueling workouts last week <a href="https://t.co/BW3WBmrfFf">https://t.co/BW3WBmrfFf</a></p>— Andrew Greif (@AndrewGreif) <a href="https://twitter.com/AndrewGreif/status/821157785203130368">January 17, 2017</a></blockquote>
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At least three Oregon Ducks football players were hospitalized after enduring a series of grueling strength and conditioning workouts at UO last week, The Oregonian/OregonLive has learned.

Offensive linemen Doug Brenner and Sam Poutasi and tight end Cam McCormick are in fair condition and remained at PeaceHealth Sacred Heart Medical Center at Riverbend in Springfield on Monday, a hospital spokeswoman said. They have been in the hospital since late last week after workouts that occurred during the team's return from holiday break.

Poutasi's mother, Oloka, said that her son complained of very sore arms after the workouts and had been diagnosed with rhabdomyolysis, a syndrome in which soft muscle tissue is broken down with "leakage into the blood stream of muscle contents," according to the NCAA medical handbook. Depending on the severity, it has the potential to lead to damaged kidneys.

"The safety and welfare of all of our student-athletes is paramount in all that we do," Oregon wrote in a statement on behalf of the entire athletic department. "While we cannot comment on the health of our individual students, we have implemented modifications as we transition back into full training to prevent further occurrences.

"We thank our medical staff and trainers for their continued monitoring of the students and we will continue to support our young men as they recover."

Oregon coach Willie Taggart visited Riverbend to meet with some of the hospitalized players before leaving the state to recruit.

Players this week were required to finish the same workouts, which were described by multiple sources as akin to military basic training, with one said to include up to an hour of continuous push-ups and up-downs. The sources said that some players "passed out" and others later complained of discolored urine, which is a common symptom of rhabdomyolysis. After testing, others were found to have highly elevated levels of creatine kinase, an indicator of the syndrome.

Rhabdomyolysis can be triggered after a spike in intensity of an athlete's workouts and by overexertion during those workouts. For the first time since 2004, Oregon did not qualify for a postseason bowl game in 2016, and players were left to exercise on their own during their nearly monthlong break from school. Oregon hired Irele Oderinde its new football strength and conditioning coach earlier this month. He followed Taggart from South Florida, where Oderinde had worked as the school's director of athletic performance since 2014.

The 6-foot-2, 310-pound Brenner is entering his senior season, while the 6-4, 315-pound Poutasi and 6-5, 240-pound McCormick will be eligible to play in 2017 after using last fall to redshirt.

Reports of multiple players being affected by rhabdomyolysis are rare. In August, eight volleyball players from Texas Women's University were hospitalized. In 2011, 13 players from the University of Iowa were hospitalized due to the syndrome after working out during their winter conditioning program. In August 2010, two dozen football players from McMinnville High School were hospitalized, with some requiring surgery, after complaining of intense workouts held in high heat with little water.

The NCAA medical handbook listed "novel workouts or exercises immediately following a transitional period" such as a winter break as one of its 10 factors that can increase the risk of rhabdomyolysis. It also cautioned that "all training programs should start slowly, build gradually, include adequate rest and allow for individual differences."
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Wow, just wow.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Oregon strength coach suspended after players hospitalized. <a href="https://twitter.com/kareemcopeland">@kareemcopeland</a> <a href="https://t.co/TfIr3RGoYm">https://t.co/TfIr3RGoYm</a></p>— AP Top 25 (@AP_Top25) <a href="https://twitter.com/AP_Top25/status/821570264244908032">January 18, 2017</a></blockquote>
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The University of Oregon suspended football strength and conditioning coach Irele Oderinde one month without pay after three players were hospitalized following a series of intense workouts last week.

The school announced the decision in a statement Tuesday evening and detailed a review of the incident. It added that all future workouts have been modified and the strength and conditioning coach will now report to director of performance and sports science Andrew Murray instead of coach Willie Taggart, who apologized in the statement.

Oregon's statement detailed that players began an off-season conditioning program last Tuesday after six weeks away from "football-related activities" and Oderinde led those workouts.

Three days into the sessions one player complained of "muscle-soreness and displayed other symptoms of potential exercise-related injury." The medical staff took "appropriate action" and two other players later complained of the same symptoms.

"I have visited with the three young men involved in the incidents in the past few days and I have been in constant contact with their families, offering my sincere apologies," Taggart said in the statement. "As the head football coach, I hold myself responsible for all of our football-related activities and the safety of our students must come first. I have addressed the issue with our strength and conditioning staff, and I fully support the actions taken today by the university.

"I want to thank our medical staff and doctors for caring for all of our young men, and I want to apologize to the university, our students, alumni and fans."

A hospital spokeswoman confirmed that one of the players, Doug Brenner, was released from PeaceHealth Sacred Heart Medical Center at Riverbend on Tuesday and the other two were in good condition as of the evening.

"The university holds the health, safety and well-being of all of our students in high regard," director of athletics Rob Mullens said in the statement. "We are confident that these athletes will soon return to full health, and we will continue to support them and their families in their recoveries."

The Oregonian was the first to report (Multiple Oregon Ducks football players hospitalized after grueling workouts | OregonLive.com) late Monday that the players were hospitalized after being taken there late last week. The newspaper reported that the mother of one of the players said her son has been diagnosed with rhabdomyolysis, a condition that occurs when muscle tissue breaks down and leaks into the blood stream. The condition can cause kidney damage.
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Joe Thomas, All-World tackle for the Brownies even tweeted about this saying that it's inexcusable and that someone should be fired.

Big words coming from this gentle quiet giant.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">All that glitters IS Gold! Officially on the recruiting trail for Notre Dame football <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FightingIrish?src=hash">#FightingIrish</a> <a href="https://t.co/HLp3GmMl9m">pic.twitter.com/HLp3GmMl9m</a></p>— Del alexander (@dalex3333) <a href="https://twitter.com/dalex3333/status/821786351498625025">January 18, 2017</a></blockquote>
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bout time ND started paying recruits!
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">All that glitters IS Gold! Officially on the recruiting trail for Notre Dame football <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FightingIrish?src=hash">#FightingIrish</a> <a href="https://t.co/HLp3GmMl9m">pic.twitter.com/HLp3GmMl9m</a></p>— Del alexander (@dalex3333) <a href="https://twitter.com/dalex3333/status/821786351498625025">January 18, 2017</a></blockquote>
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bout time ND started paying recruits!

Nice Smash Mouth "All Star" reference there, coach! "Only shooting stars break the mold."
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Three Ducks football players remain hospitalized today following a series of grueling workouts last week <a href="https://t.co/BW3WBmrfFf">https://t.co/BW3WBmrfFf</a></p>— Andrew Greif (@AndrewGreif) <a href="https://twitter.com/AndrewGreif/status/821157785203130368">January 17, 2017</a></blockquote>
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At least three Oregon Ducks football players were hospitalized after enduring a series of grueling strength and conditioning workouts at UO last week, The Oregonian/OregonLive has learned.

Offensive linemen Doug Brenner and Sam Poutasi and tight end Cam McCormick are in fair condition and remained at PeaceHealth Sacred Heart Medical Center at Riverbend in Springfield on Monday, a hospital spokeswoman said. They have been in the hospital since late last week after workouts that occurred during the team's return from holiday break.

Poutasi's mother, Oloka, said that her son complained of very sore arms after the workouts and had been diagnosed with rhabdomyolysis, a syndrome in which soft muscle tissue is broken down with "leakage into the blood stream of muscle contents," according to the NCAA medical handbook. Depending on the severity, it has the potential to lead to damaged kidneys.

"The safety and welfare of all of our student-athletes is paramount in all that we do," Oregon wrote in a statement on behalf of the entire athletic department. "While we cannot comment on the health of our individual students, we have implemented modifications as we transition back into full training to prevent further occurrences.

"We thank our medical staff and trainers for their continued monitoring of the students and we will continue to support our young men as they recover."

Oregon coach Willie Taggart visited Riverbend to meet with some of the hospitalized players before leaving the state to recruit.

Players this week were required to finish the same workouts, which were described by multiple sources as akin to military basic training, with one said to include up to an hour of continuous push-ups and up-downs. The sources said that some players "passed out" and others later complained of discolored urine, which is a common symptom of rhabdomyolysis. After testing, others were found to have highly elevated levels of creatine kinase, an indicator of the syndrome.

Rhabdomyolysis can be triggered after a spike in intensity of an athlete's workouts and by overexertion during those workouts. For the first time since 2004, Oregon did not qualify for a postseason bowl game in 2016, and players were left to exercise on their own during their nearly monthlong break from school. Oregon hired Irele Oderinde its new football strength and conditioning coach earlier this month. He followed Taggart from South Florida, where Oderinde had worked as the school's director of athletic performance since 2014.

The 6-foot-2, 310-pound Brenner is entering his senior season, while the 6-4, 315-pound Poutasi and 6-5, 240-pound McCormick will be eligible to play in 2017 after using last fall to redshirt.

Reports of multiple players being affected by rhabdomyolysis are rare. In August, eight volleyball players from Texas Women's University were hospitalized. In 2011, 13 players from the University of Iowa were hospitalized due to the syndrome after working out during their winter conditioning program. In August 2010, two dozen football players from McMinnville High School were hospitalized, with some requiring surgery, after complaining of intense workouts held in high heat with little water.

The NCAA medical handbook listed "novel workouts or exercises immediately following a transitional period" such as a winter break as one of its 10 factors that can increase the risk of rhabdomyolysis. It also cautioned that "all training programs should start slowly, build gradually, include adequate rest and allow for individual differences."
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Wow, just wow.

Only got a 1 month suspension without pay. Such Bullshit.

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Only got a 1 month suspension without pay. Such Bullshit.

Oregon suspends strength and conditioning coach without pay for a month

However, a source told ESPN.com that the workouts weren't as strenuous as The Oregonian reported, indicating for example that players haven't started using weights yet. Several Ducks players also took to Twitter to downplay the reported severity of the workouts.

If this is true, and let's say that he handled the situation well, once the kids complained of excessive pain, then a month without pay seems pretty fair. Makes him accountable, but acknowledges that he was not maliciously negligent.
 

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If this is true, and let's say that he handled the situation well, once the kids complained of excessive pain, then a month without pay seems pretty fair. Makes him accountable, but acknowledges that he was not maliciously negligent.

Agreed, really depends on the context of the workouts. If it's a situation of failing to monitor the condition of some out of shape kids and how hard they were being pushed that's very different than gross negligence putting everyone through a legitimately dangerous workout. A month off without pay is a relatively severe (but fair) punishment to show they're taking player safety seriously, and to hold the coach accountable, without going overboard for something that may have been sensationalized.
 

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No I can't, because nobody in history has ever been hospitalized from eating ice cream and walking on a treadmill simultaneously.

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Nice Smash Mouth "All Star" reference there, coach! "Only shooting stars break the mold."

Truly the poet laureates of this generation.

Got damn...Walking On the Sun was released 20 years ago this year...
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The addition of 10th full-time assistant coach is one step closer to happening, and soon: <a href="https://t.co/yfxfFi4tr5">https://t.co/yfxfFi4tr5</a></p>— CoachingSearch.com (@coachingsearch) <a href="https://twitter.com/coachingsearch/status/822102443278401536">January 19, 2017</a></blockquote>
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I know the consensus is Rees as QB Coach but I would like to see a 2nd DL Coach to help with the concerns around Elston with Rees as a GA. Maybe a subsequent change gets Rees into the QB role next year.
 

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I know the consensus is Rees as QB Coach but I would like to see a 2nd DL Coach to help with the concerns around Elston with Rees as a GA. Maybe a subsequent change gets Rees into the QB role next year.

I know it wouldn't happen, but what if they convinced Justin Tuck to come in and coach the defensive ends? That could pay off huge in recruiting.
 

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I know it wouldn't happen, but what if they convinced Justin Tuck to come in and coach the defensive ends? That could pay off huge in recruiting.

If he wanted to be a GA perhaps, dude's a pitch man for a beer company not sure that's a good look for the university.
 

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I know it wouldn't happen, but what if they convinced Justin Tuck to come in and coach the defensive ends? That could pay off huge in recruiting.

Does he have coaching experience? Bryant Young would have been another option, but he quit coaching after a very brief stint to be with his family more.
 
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I know the consensus is Rees as QB Coach but I would like to see a 2nd DL Coach to help with the concerns around Elston with Rees as a GA. Maybe a subsequent change gets Rees into the QB role next year.

Interesting that there is a picture of Clemson-Bama on the tweet you posted.

Because, despite Clemson's ridiculous talent at skilled positions, they truly became National Champs because of their attention to the offensive and defensive lines.

More specifically, the reason they have reloaded monsters on defense, year after year from Lawson on, is their tandem of defensive line coaches. One working with tackles, one with defensive ends. There was a good article at ISD today which dove directly into that.

In the information I have gleaned from people I know, and what I have observed I have high hopes that one of the steering committee recommendations was for two defensive line coaches.

Another issue that I had that I was hoping was addressed with the changes would be handled by bringing Chip Long in. Another good article on ISD, which follows conversation with a couple of posters, and a few others is a change to the blocking scheme. The article on ISD educated me on how much variation there is between different spread schemes. But there was golden text about how Chip Long uses back side tackles, motion, h-backs and scheme to provide better blocking angles for offensive linemen.

I was really excited to learn that Chip doesn't need to promote a blocking scheme that telegraphs tendencies to defenses. (Sound familiar.) This has been a huge issue for me with the offense! Read the article(s) on ISD, they are the best most easily understandable, with sufficient technical detail, to explain what is really going on.

And to totally make my day, one of the authors, who confirmed something I heard elsewhere indicates that though Kelly is making some stops, he hasn't stepped it up in the recruiting game, which indicates to me, we are dealing pretty clearly with one more season with Kelly.

Hey, I have no problem if he got on the road with his additional time and pressed the flesh with prospects, as well as wooed potential signees. Do you all have any idea how many top ten coaches are spending all their time on the road, now that they can, meeting with potential '18 commits, in between working on kids to fill the '17 class?

15 minutes of reading today, after a couple of brief phone conversations yesterday, really made me feel pretty good this morning!
 

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Notre Dame: The University of Notre Dame, is currently seeking candidates for the Offensive Graduate Assistant position. Qualified candidates must have previous experience playing or coaching the Offensive Line. All candidates must posses strong communication and computer skills. Please send cover letter and resume with references to tplantz@nd.edu

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this position should be reserved for big brothers of elite 2018 recruits only. :D
 

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Notre Dame: The University of Notre Dame, is currently seeking candidates for the Offensive Graduate Assistant position. Qualified candidates must have previous experience playing or coaching the Offensive Line. All candidates must posses strong communication and computer skills. Please send cover letter and resume with references to tplantz@nd.edu

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Ha... we have to advertise this position? You would think we could pick up the phone and get this filled within the hour.
 

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Notre Dame: The University of Notre Dame, is currently seeking candidates for the Offensive Graduate Assistant position. Qualified candidates must have previous experience playing or coaching the Offensive Line. All candidates must posses strong communication and computer skills. Please send cover letter and resume with references to tplantz@nd.edu

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Damn, I check all the boxes here. Wonder if the wife would want to move to northern Indiana...
 

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Elko is coaching the safeties too right?

I really wish that the Coach that they brought in to coach STs also was able to help coach the D-Line with Elston. Understandably special teams have not been good and Polian is a good ST coach, but I just wish they would split it up like Clemson does. I think LAX posted a while ago about Gilmore having experience coaching ST, it could have made sense to keep him coaching DT or DEs, Elston would coach the other, while he also handled the STs but I guess they preferred Polian.
 

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Elko is coaching the safeties too right?

I really wish that the Coach that they brought in to coach STs also was able to help coach the D-Line with Elston. Understandably special teams have not been good and Polian is a good ST coach, but I just wish they would split it up like Clemson does. I think LAX posted a while ago about Gilmore having experience coaching ST, it could have made sense to keep him coaching DT or DEs, Elston would coach the other, while he also handled the STs but I guess they preferred Polian.

Polian will probably end up doing more on the recruiting side than the ST coaching side i'd imagine.
 
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