NCAA Tournament Talk

[arrowryan]

I literally can’t believe that UVA kid would try that pass

 

[Irish#1]

I literally can’t believe that UVA kid would try that pass

Didn't someone say the Furman kid was 0-10 in his last ten 3pt attempts before hitting that?

 

[NorthDakota]

I had Virginia in the final. So...that sucks lmao

 

[NDPhilly]

The fact that Kihei Clark off all people made that pass is unreal

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

The fact that Kihei Clark off all people made that pass is unreal

Yeah, that's a rough way to go out.

Slawson from Furman has been building an NBA case for himself. Continued to do so today.

 

[notredomer23]

ND sucking had me relatively tuned out this year and I was stunned Kihei Clark still played for UVA. Thought for sure he was 26 or 27 years old

 

[sfk324]

Rod Balanis sighting. Forgot he went to Howard as an associate.

 

[laughingirish90]

not surprised at all by the Furman vs UVA score because i was telling people at work that anybody can win the title in this tournament as nobody this year looked unbeatable going into the big dance

 

[Irish#1]

Mighty Princeton takes down AZ.

 

[MacIrish75]

Pay. Shrewsberry. Now.

 

[IrishLion]

NKU is normally pretty good from beyond the arc… but instead went 5-33 (!) from three-point range.

If they had even just had a “slightly-below-average” night from 3, rather than “abysmal,” they would have been the 2nd 16 seed to beat a 1.

The frustrating thing is that they weren’t even really victim to Houston’s defense, either. I’d say 20 of those looks were clean, off of good ball movement. Bummer!

 

[stpeteirish]

Ah this time of year. Trying to find Tru TV on my television dial.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Pay. Shrewsberry. Now.

He's going to have offers when his season is over. No question.

 

[Irish#1]

NKU is normally pretty good from beyond the arc… but instead went 5-33 (!) from three-point range.

If they had even just had a “slightly-below-average” night from 3, rather than “abysmal,” they would have been the 2nd 16 seed to beat a 1.

The frustrating thing is that they weren’t even really victim to Houston’s defense, either. I’d say 20 of those looks were clean, off of good ball movement. Bummer!

Was watching PSU / A&M when PSU started raining 3's which is their strength. Blew the game wide open. Jalen Pickett is turning out to be a hand full for opposing teams.

 

[MKEagle]

Buzz Williams got what he deserved after the act he pulled with the selection committee last year. Shrewsberry will be getting a nice pay raise next year

 

[Irish#1]

Kennesaw St. blew it against Xavier. Too much one on one in the last five minutes.

Sparty sends the condoms home.

 

[ndfanatic78]

Down go the Boilermakers. Second 1 seed to ever go down in the first round.

 

[Irish#1]

Down go the Boilermakers. Second 1 seed to ever go down in the first round.

Bad time to go cold. Even with the turnovers if they just hit a couple more threes it’s a different story.

 

[arrowryan]

I didn’t have Purdue surviving the weekend, but I had them winning one game.

Without Edey, they’re probably not even a tournament team. Pathetic performance.

 

[ACamp1900]

I haven't watched much of the tourney in years (or any ball outside of a few ND games a year) but I'm home on spring break so I figured I'd tune in.... I cannot believe how unwatchable bball has become. I'm sitting here venting to my wife about how different and individual it seems to be now and they go to the halftime show and here is Charles and Kenny ranting on how every game is a collection of individuals and very little team effort. At least I know it's not just me.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Did Purdue consider just getting the ball to the biggest guy on the floor a bit more often?

 

[Sea Turtle]

Did Purdue consider just getting the ball to the biggest guy on the floor a bit more often?

They were triple teaming him and dared them to shoot.

In football teams, they loaded the box and dared them to throw.

 

[NumbersGuy0520]

It’s a little bit different when your guy is almost a foot taller than the other teams tallest player. If nothing else, it should also open things up for other players.

From about 6:30 to 1min to go, every one of Purdue’s shot attempts was a 3-pointer, despite being in the double bonus.

That’s abysmal coaching and execution.

 

[Old Man Mike]

The Purdue Problem was that they had zero players athletic enough to stay in front of the other guys defensively, and zero converse ability to go by the other team's players. Edey was fine. His job is to post and dunk. He does that and screws defenses up. The other players need to be able to do all the fast, skilled, and athletic things. None of them can.

So how did Purdue win the Big Ten? It's because the whole conference is a set of robotic clone teams of mediocre athleticism and subpar guard play. They are big and rough, but not engaged in modern basketball. Michigan also just got embarrassed in the last two minutes of the Vanderbilt game by similar skill athleticism and WANT-TO deficiencies. Only Izzo seems occasionally to get a modern BBall game out of his players --- perhaps Northwestern, though they are otherwise underpowered.

In modern college basketball you can try to run a CLOCK but it must be a Dynamic skilled Clock --- Kansas is your posterchild for that (though they need their Clock Wizard Manipulator, Bill Self, to really make it go smoothly all game.) OR, you can run a pack of Werewolves with an arch-street criminal on the floor keeping them from degrading into chaos. Houston is the poster child for that (and Shedd is the criminal mastermind.) The team who beat Purdue is a minor version of exactly that.

But you can't win in the NCAA tournament with a robot clock, like Big Ten teams seem to want to be --- maybe back-in-the-day Pete Correll and Princeton could get away with it --- our local Kalamazoo legend team under Eldon Miller was a classic Clock which almost pulled it off.

A last reflection on Edey. His only really strange flaw is that he plays with such soft hands that ANY mild touching of the ball sends it wobbling out of his control. He has to fix that.

 

[BobbyMac]

My old ball coach, Homer Drew had a special one yesterday in Denver watching both of his sons coach. Scott's Bears beat the Gauchos, then Bryce's GCU squad played the Zags. Good thing both were there, the airlines lost GCU's bags but Scott let Bryce use Baylor's gear to practice in.

And it came on their 25th anniversary of "The Shot" vs Ole Miss.

Oddly enough I watched the game with my buddy who went to Santa Barbara High and his HS friend who's a UCSB alum... even odder, they are both Irish af and ND football fans.

 

[BobbyMac]

The Purdue Problem was that they had zero players athletic enough to stay in front of the other guys defensively, and zero converse ability to go by the other team's players.

Purdue's athleticism was more than enough to beat FDU. Purdue's game does not revolve around dribble penetration by the 1-2-3's.

With Edey, it's simple pass him the ball, he scores at a high percentage or he kicks out for open jumpers when the opposition dives defensively.

It's the formula that they beat a who's who of tourney teams on this year's schedule.

But yesterday, they were 5-26 from 3. Edey only shot 10 times and they allowed FDU 11 offensive rebounds that converted into 18 points.

Matt Painter lost the game.

 

[Old Man Mike]

Agree in part; disagree in part.
If you play man-to-man exclusively (the announcers screaming for Painter to change his defense up) and none of your guys can stay in front of any of the opponents' guys, you are both not athletic enough to handle them defensively AND you are not prepared by your coach to play some necessary zones. My "athleticism" comments are not directed to dribble drive offense. They are directed to inability to defend, inability to properly deal with press pressure, inability to deal with NCAA energy-heightened teams throwing themselves into games like semi-wildmen. I wonder what the Looseball percentage was? I wonder what the productive numbers of going to the floor comparison was? I wonder what a motion measure and distance covered comparison was? I'm betting Purdue flunked all of that badly. ... As I said, you CAN play winning BBall in a Clock system, and most winning teams do (a la Kansas, Duke et al) but you must have enough physical ability to stay in front of your opponents defensively, and break presses offensively, get the ball into play with no time hassle, etc. In the NCAA with teams rising in game energy to GO For It with nothing to lose, slow Big Ten clocks aren't usually good enough.

 

[notredomer23]

Tennessee-Duke has turned into a great game. Very impressed by UT. If they hold on here I won’t be surprised to see them make a run in this tournament

 

[Irish#1]

My old ball coach, Homer Drew had a special one yesterday in Denver watching both of his sons coach. Scott's Bears beat the Gauchos, then Bryce's GCU squad played the Zags. Good thing both were there, the airlines lost GCU's bags but Scott let Bryce use Baylor's gear to practice in.

And it came on their 25th anniversary of "The Shot" vs Ole Miss.

Oddly enough I watched the game with my buddy who went to Santa Barbara High and his HS friend who's a UCSB alum... even odder, they are both Irish af and ND football fans.

That shot came off the play called “Pacer”.

 

[Irish#1]

Agree in part; disagree in part.
If you play man-to-man exclusively (the announcers screaming for Painter to change his defense up) and none of your guys can stay in front of any of the opponents' guys, you are both not athletic enough to handle them defensively AND you are not prepared by your coach to play some necessary zones. My "athleticism" comments are not directed to dribble drive offense. They are directed to inability to defend, inability to properly deal with press pressure, inability to deal with NCAA energy-heightened teams throwing themselves into games like semi-wildmen. I wonder what the Looseball percentage was? I wonder what the productive numbers of going to the floor comparison was? I wonder what a motion measure and distance covered comparison was? I'm betting Purdue flunked all of that badly. ... As I said, you CAN play winning BBall in a Clock system, and most winning teams do (a la Kansas, Duke et al) but you must have enough physical ability to stay in front of your opponents defensively, and break presses offensively, get the ball into play with no time hassle, etc. In the NCAA with teams rising in game energy to GO For It with nothing to lose, slow Big Ten clocks aren't usually good enough.

FDU only scored 63. That’s good enough to win the game if Purdue hits two or three more threes.