[NBA] vbook: Spurs vs Heat

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anarin

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I'm thinking that Lebron should've been a fullback with that way he bulldozes into the lane.

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And why doesn't anyone ever try to take a charge from this guy? Do they fear for their safety?
 

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I'm thinking that Lebron should've been a fullback with that way he bulldozes into the lane.

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And why doesn't anyone ever try to take a charge from this guy? Do they fear for their safety?

F*ck I would be afraid. That's a grown *** man.
 

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I'm thinking that Lebron should've been a fullback with that way he bulldozes into the lane.

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And why doesn't anyone ever try to take a charge from this guy? Do they fear for their safety?

No way. Tight end.
 

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I feel like Spurs are going to get game 7. Heat seem more exhausted and relieved. Spurs seem exhausted and upset. Upset can turn into anger pretty quickly.
 

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When San Antonio went up 10-13 near the end of the 3rd /w Wade and Lebron playing like crap, I couldn't help but think "Yes!" In my heart I knew that the Heat were going to pull it out in the 4th somehow to go to OT or win. It's what they do unfortunately. Now I wish this morning that I hadn't stayed up to watch it.
 

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Where? How?

I am a Knick fan, and the only truly questionable call I saw was the foul on Duncan where I thought it should have been a jump ball with Lebron.

Ginobili traveled before he was fouled (would have been his 9th turnover of the night), and NO ONE will call a foul on Bosh on that Green desperation heave.

It's unbelievably silly to say this game was 'rigged'. Unless Joey Crawford was the one that made Manu and Kawhi miss free throws, or have them lose defensive rebounds, then I have no idea where the hell you are coming from. Any of those things happen different, the Spurs win, regardless of officials.

The "rigging" is much more subtle. You only need a handful (maybe less) of calls throughout a game to change how it unfolds. A couple no calls, a couple block/charges, and some touch fouls all going in the same direction add up. It isn't enough to just look at the calls in the last two minutes. And as far as specific calls, on just about every possession there is something that could be called. But it is undeniable that when you found out Crawford was on the game you knew there'd be a seventh. The NBA is dirty.
 
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The "rigging" is much more subtle. You only need a handful (maybe less) calls throughout a game to change how it unfolds. A couple no calls, a couple block/charges, and some touch fouls all going in the direction add up. It isn't enough to just look at the calls in the last two minutes. And as far as specific calls, on just about every possession there is something that could be called. But it is undeniable that when you found out Crawford wa on the game you knew there'd be a seventh. The NBA is dirty.

Even if all you are saying is true, if any of the 4 things I mention above go the Spurs way, they win the Championship last night. It's that simple. Thus, the 'subtle rigging' was just about as effective as the Spurs in the last 30 seconds of the game last night for your purposes.

If you don't like the NBA as it is, don't watch. That is also that simple. The people on here who do enjoy it would prefer not to read silly and unnecessary griping from someone who apparently doesn't like it.
 

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Last night's game was the biggest piece of evidence towards the NBA NOT being rigged that I have seen in awhile. If they were truly trying to guarantee a Heat win, they needed to put it in motion way before they needed miracle offensive rebounds, 3s, and a missed free throw to sneak into OT. I've always thought the NBA was quasi-rigged... last night seemed very much on the up-and-up.

The Manu play at the end was just crazy though. Talk about swallowing your whistle! I used to ref basketball and would've done the same thing... you DO NOT want to make a foul call on a last second shot unless it is DEFINITELY a foul. But then again, I'm not a ref in the NBA. How they didn't call a travel OR a foul is impossible.
 

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If I had paid the refs last night to rig the game, I would want my money back.
 

IrishSteelhead

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The whole rigging idea is overblown. Refs aren't determining certain outcomes, they are simply encouraging them. There will always be wiggle room.
 

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No doubt that at the end of the game the Heat made some plays to win it and the Spurs made enough dumb plays to let them. My complaint is that it shouldn't have been close enough at the end for that to happen. The Spurs had the Heat on the ropes toward the end of the 3rd quarter, and somehow the Heat got back in the game. Joey Crawford can't control whether Ray Allen's three goes down, or whether the Spurs decide not to rebound (or keep their best rebounder on the bench) or whether they miss their free throws, but he can make all those things matter by not allowing them to win the game going away.
 

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No doubt that at the end of the game the Heat made some plays to win it and the Spurs made enough dumb plays to let them. My complaint is that it shouldn't have been close enough at the end for that to happen. The Spurs had the Heat on the ropes toward the end of the 3rd quarter, and somehow the Heat got back in the game. Joey Crawford can't control whether Ray Allen's three goes down, or whether the Spurs decide not to rebound (or keep their best rebounder on the bench) or whether they miss their free throws, but he can make all those things matter by not allowing them to win the game going away.

It was the Spurs/Pop's fault that they let the Heat off the hook at the end of the 3rd. Pops took Duncan and Parker out when he should have went for the kill. At the very least keep Duncan in. The Heat starters vs. the Spurs second team with no scoring threat is not going to work.
 

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Another funny thing I haven't seen discussed here is the illegal Duncan substitution after RA's big 3 pointer.

Duncan was out for that possession, with no timeouts left for either team. Pop asks the refs to look at where Ray was on the floor when he took the shot, and puts Duncan back in. Should've been a technical. That's game right there.
 

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If the NBA wanted to rig things they wouldn't rig the finals (they may want the Heat to get to the finals). The Heat losing in the finals almost generates for attention.
 

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Dude has lost his mind.

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