Marcus Freeman Revisited

sfk324

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Dude all you've done is gone around clicking on boos. Pretty sure you don't have jack to say about "takes." Yours takes literally consist of clicking a button. Adios
You are so dim you can't even scroll 5 posts down from your last comment.

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Things feel like they are back on the upswing - strong portal additions, bringing back Denbrock and excising Porker from the offense, Golden seemingly coming back, no signing day drama, and a wipeout win in the bowl game. It will be interesting to see if McCullough stays (just a feeling I have, no intel), and what the roster looks like after spring practice. This season will always have you saying what if, but Freeman looks like he is really putting his fingerprint on the program. At this moment, I like what I see.
 

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Jordan Faison is the perfect example of Freeman vs Kelly/Weis/Willingham in roster construction.

When Sam Hubbard was a longtime ND lacrosse recruit and had family at ND, Sam's football coach... who was an established guy at powerhouse Moeller in Ohio... reached out to a number of teams saying "you need to look at this guy, he's an elite athlete and is just starting football but could be a star." Most colleges took time to review his film, some extended offers. Urban Meyer -- who had an elite and talented loaded Ohio State team and certainly didn't "need" some stringbean thin lax bro -- took the time to evaluate him and eventually offer a scholarship. Diaco was too lazy to return a phone call or look at the film. Same for Kelly. If ND has been proactive, he likely would've settled for a PWO spot (money was NOT an issue and he was a high academic guy) and then taken a scholly when the spot became available. The rest is history... Hubbard would go from a 0* recruit to by the end of his senior season a top 150 recruit and eventually 3rd round draft pick // six year NFL vet currently in the league.

Faison similarly was a 0* recruit that Iowa evaluated and was like "holy shit this guy is a sleeper"... he played in an offense in HS where he was primarily a QB and RB. When he came for his lacrosse visit at ND, Freeman and Stuckey pitched him on being a slot WR and really put in a lot of legwork to show that he was valued. He turned down a full Power 5 football scholarship to "play both" at ND because they sold the total package. Freeman had no way of knowing he would be THAT good but because he had synergy with other coaches at ND and because he's a tenacious recruiter he invested the small amount of time that was required to seal the deal with a kid that he had no way of knowing whether he'd even play a down of football. A few months later, he looks like a surefire starter and likely NFL player.

In short -- effort matters. Little things matter. ND has not had a "dog" in the HC role since Holtz/Cerrato worked their asses off recruiting. Freeman still has to grow in many areas, but it's amazing feeling to have someone who cares and is willing to put in the work.
 

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Anybody good at the flight tracker thing?

Anything in or out of Tuscaloosa the past few days? Sorry just Lil bit nervous since BK moved his damage Famaly down south
 

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Anybody good at the flight tracker thing?

Anything in or out of Tuscaloosa the past few days? Sorry just Lil bit nervous since BK moved his damage Famaly down south

It's going to be Deboer. ESPN reporting that they're negotiating the contract now.
 

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Serious question. Would you take Alabama's roster over Notre Dame's right now? Seems we are closing the gap.
Great question. I would say as it stands, no.

Would not want to be the guy who follows Saban. I'm sure somebody is going to get the job and probably wants it, but I don't think it'll be Marcus on either front.

It's going to be a Jimmy Sexton guy.
 

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Serious question. Would you take Alabama's roster over Notre Dame's right now? Seems we are closing the gap.
I really like our roster right now, Freeman continues to recruit at a high level, and this is a good staff he has put together.
 

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Serious question. Would you take Alabama's roster over Notre Dame's right now? Seems we are closing the gap.
Maybe. I would not take it over OSUs, Ole Miss, or Georgia's though. Those teams are on another level in 2024 it seems.

Ole Miss is going to come damn close to a title if they don't win it completely, assuming they don't have damning injuries. I've been saying Kiffen is top 4 coach for years now and he's about to take a swing.
 

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Ole miss better figure it out on defense then they were I think 6th in the sec in defense
 

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So are we talking about the bit when he said they teach their kids to go "down, down" if they are tied or ahead in the waning moments? I'm still listening but they were mentioning analytics there.

if so, I'm not sure how old school that logic is. Remember, Toledo would've beaten ND in 2021 in South Bend if they took a knee and kicked the chip shot FG vs. running in the TD with a minute left and giving Coan, Austin, Mayer and co. time to score. And I'm sure there are plenty of other cases. If your'e down 1, I don't think you ever play for a FG. But if you're tied or in the lead, take the knee, let the clock bleed.
 

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The analytics discussion relates to a hypothetical from Big Cat asking if Freeman would kick the PAT or go for 2 if he scored a touchdown with 3 minutes remaining to bring the score within 8 points.

Freeman said he'd kick. Analytics would say to go there.
 

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The analytics discussion relates to a hypothetical from Big Cat asking if Freeman would kick the PAT or go for 2 if he scored a touchdown with 3 minutes remaining to bring the score within 8 points.

Freeman said he'd kick. Analytics would say to go there.
So if you kick it’s 8, or if you kick it’s 9? I’m confused about which.
 

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So if you kick it’s 8, or if you kick it’s 9? I’m confused about which.
If you consider converting a 2 pt conversion as a 50/50 chance, the numbers say got for 2 down 8 after the td. Best case scenario: you convert and the next extra pt wins. If you miss the 2 pt, then the odds say you get it next time
 

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If you consider converting a 2 pt conversion as a 50/50 chance, the numbers say got for 2 down 8 after the td. Best case scenario: you convert and the next extra pt wins. If you miss the 2 pt, then the odds say you get it next time
So the tuddy got you down 8… so it’s whether you want to be down 6, or down 7 (assuming either attempt is made). I get the analytics. But idk man. I like the sure thing.

I think it also depends on the opponent, and home/away. There’s definitely, imo a better chance I’d be ok with going to OT if I was at home.
 

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In the NFL you go for 2. I feel like if you're ND you kick the XP most of the time because we're more talented than 90% of our schedule and you're just looking to go to OT with momentum.
 

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So the tuddy got you down 8… so it’s whether you want to be down 6, or down 7 (assuming either attempt is made). I get the analytics. But idk man. I like the sure thing.

I think it also depends on the opponent, and home/away. There’s definitely, imo a better chance I’d be ok with going to OT if I was at home.
Yeah. At home, or against a significantly lesser opponent (so, two-thirds of our games) you probably take the one and play for OT. In a situation like Saturday night maybe you go for two. It's not just a math equation.
 
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