Marcus Freeman New DC

[Dale]

MTA: 54 NaNa: 15 Ehrensberger: 6
Hinish: 45 Cross: 35
Jayson: 54 Mills: 11 Lacey: 9
Foskey: 49 Justin: 28

 

[BeauBenken]

I just dont care for the changes in the text and forum here about as much as I dont care for Freemans defensive philosophy of over complicated defense they both need fixing although I was very impressed with everything else about the Irish Sat especially team attitude-offense speaks for itself but Freeman will get burned here with this philosophy but he wont care because its just a stopover to a head job somewhere-bad combo

What's wrong with the text on the forum? It's just default Times New Roman....Pretty sure it's the exact same it was before the update.

 

[Dale]

I won’t get into the grades because I don’t think they are that accurate many times but I’d say Botelho taking Justin A’s Vyper snaps and Justin A taking Big End snaps is likely to everyone’s benefit. I also would expect the almost 50/50 from Hinish and Cross to continue and was good to see there

 

[SouthSideChiDomer]

I don't know if I buy the whole heat & humidity thing. First, South Bend was still hitting highs in the 90s up until about a week before the game. Humidity is obviously higher in Tallahassee than South Bend, but many days this summer it looks like it could only be 10-15% more humidity between the two areas. At kickoff it was 80 and later it dropped to 75. Again, humidity was definitely high that night, but it wasn't midday hot and it wasn't night and day different for our guys like Arizona dry heat vs. swamp heat. I'm pretty sure someone high up the chain commented about all that before the game too.

That's not a real comparison though. That is a 10-15% relative humidity difference. Key word being relative. As in related to the temperature. At a given temperature, higher humidity means more water in the air. But it also means that for a given humidity, there is more water in the air at a higher temp than at a lower temp. So if the amount of water in the air is constant, raising the temperature actually lower the relative humidity. So saying an area has 10-15% higher humidity doesn't really tell us anything without the temperature. Given that Tallahassee has had consistently higher temperatures than us, for the same amount of water in the air, they would actually have a lower relative humidity. So, if they have both a higher temperature AND a higher relative humidity, those effects actually compound to make a much bigger difference than either one considered individually.

 

[Luckylucci]

Do you have any idea how many snaps he played?

Snap Count Thoughts | FSU | Irish Sports Daily

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

MTA: 54 NaNa: 15 Ehrensberger: 6
Hinish: 45 Cross: 35
Jayson: 54 Mills: 11 Lacey: 9
Foskey: 49 Justin: 28

Thanks, that’s a lot of snaps for MTA. Foskey had fewer than I would have guessed.

 

[Luckylucci]

Thanks, that’s a lot of snaps for MTA. Foskey had fewer than I would have guessed.

Yea, and just 11 snaps for Mills. I'd love to hear the reason for that. Maybe it's been posted or shared and I haven't seen it. Because if not, that seems like a glaring mistake by the coaching staff. I would've thought he'd be the first guy off the bench to spell either one of those guys at End in the 3 down or 3T and SDE in the 4 down. .

 

[Rogue219]

My problem with the 3-3-5 is that it’s a fake defense. The only teams that run it are small timey or in the Big 12 where they play soft offense.

When we were doing the 4-2-5 earlier in the game with the “hybrid” being a larger guy like Prior it seemed to work pretty well. Lots of disruption, two big plays (one of which was ultimately some pretty good execution by FSU). Created three interceptions with Kyle Hamilton playing center field.

My biggest concern comes from the fact that our LBs looked slow without Liufau and that our DBs/LBs were not sure tacklers. That was the worst tackling we’ve seen in ages.

The tackling was the biggest problem I had with the performance overall. Everyone is running variations of varying formations and schemes. Nobody just decides to do a 4-3, 3-4, 3-3-5 or whatever and just sit in it the rest of the game. Most guys want flexible personnel they can use in different fronts and above all else want to disguise what it is they're doing.

Freeman did a podcast earlier this summer where he explained a lot about his defense. It was insightful and not anything earthshattering in comparison to how most of these guys describe what it is they try to do schematically.

Tackling has to be better. Don't care what kind of "base" you're running a defense from. You don't tackle, you're in trouble. Too much trying to strip the ball rather than getting the ball carrier down to the ground. If you are the first defender at the point of attack, get that fucker down instead of trying to rip the ball out of his hands. I have been seeing this week after week, year after year for far too long now and it drives me absolutely crazy.

 

[Dale]

The DL in 3 DL sets was commonly, per Prister:

Jayson A - Cross - MTA
Lacey - Hinish - Alex E


That first group makes perfect sense. That 2nd group is a head scratcher

EDIT: I should clarify that 2nd group was definitely a grouping, per Alex E’s snap count for at least 6 plays. I am not sure if there was a second group and this was the third or if all the 3 DL except 6 plays were the first group

 

[Dale]

More snap counts, Simons injury put us in a bind but there is not a world where Bertrand should be not coming off the field (69 snaps, Hamilton/Lewis/Hart were only others and they were low 70s). I’d guess he was gassed. I’m surprised given the cross training talk they didn’t feel comfortable throwing Bauer snaps there. It also means Kollie is likely due around 20 snaps based off Pryor and Bauer’s snap counts.

 

[tko]

 

[Irish#1]

I'm guessing we're holding off on the coronation of St. Freeman? His sticking to the 3 man front until OT is puzzling to say the least, but if he's a good coach we'll see some adjustments. Given the experience with BVG, I have to think BK will step in at some point and strongly encourage some changes if he's not getting the results he expects.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

This triggers me so fucking much.

 

[RDU Irish]

I'm guessing we're holding off on the coronation of St. Freeman? His sticking to the 3 man front until OT is puzzling to say the least, but if he's a good coach we'll see some adjustments. Given the experience with BVG, I have to think BK will step in at some point and strongly encourage some changes if he's not getting the results he expects.

You mean at some point in the last 36 hours?

 

[Whiskeyjack]

C'mon, man. There are established gifs for this sort of thing:

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

C'mon, man. There are established gifs for this sort of thing:

fuckin scrubs.... lol

 

[Rogue219]

It. Was. One. Game.

 

[Redbar]

I certainly felt like I was watching a slightly more competent BVG defense. IMO there are only two fundamental approaches to playing defense. Attack and try to create havoc which is often a fan favorite, and when everything is right is a lot of fun to watch. Or a more read and react, bend but don’t break approach. Not as flashy, maybe these coordinators aren’t the hot names, but I think it is a better approach to defense.
The attack style requires the DC to generally guess correctly what is coming, then it requires everyone to be assignment disciplined, not miss a tackle or a gap, not get juked by an outstanding player, because you are creating lanes by trying to constantly get upfield. IMO very risky. Plus the offense gets three chances to rip one on you.
The read and react allows you to keep things in front of you and hopefully swarm to the ball. You can still dial up exotic pressures at low risk high reward times, or unpredictable times. (Clark Lea was a master). Most importantly you force young kids to sustain long drives, with penalties, bad snaps, miscommunication, slips, a good defensive play, all the things that can put an offense off schedule it just seems like the better way to play defense. $0.02

Edit- This is not a knock on Coach Freeman specifically, more a critique of a defensive scheme that requires so much.

 

[Trait Expectations]

Here's the head scratcher: If you are losing LBs left and right and your LBs are gassed, why are you taking more DL off the field? Go ahead and drop your most athletic DE to an LB spot and call it 3-3-5 if you must.

I know Freeman is really smart and he's been dealt a difficult hand losing three players (one of which was a breakout candidate) to injury and another to COVID or something: Marist, Moala, Simon, Bothelo. We were excited for 2 of those 4 and we've seen the other 2 come up big at moments in their careers.

Marist and Bothelo would probably be the two most violent players coming out of summer/fall camp and they were gone. Time to give Freeman some space to learn his personnel and adjust.

 

[ulukinatme]

That's not a real comparison though. That is a 10-15% relative humidity difference. Key word being relative. As in related to the temperature. At a given temperature, higher humidity means more water in the air. But it also means that for a given humidity, there is more water in the air at a higher temp than at a lower temp. So if the amount of water in the air is constant, raising the temperature actually lower the relative humidity. So saying an area has 10-15% higher humidity doesn't really tell us anything without the temperature. Given that Tallahassee has had consistently higher temperatures than us, for the same amount of water in the air, they would actually have a lower relative humidity. So, if they have both a higher temperature AND a higher relative humidity, those effects actually compound to make a much bigger difference than either one considered individually.

I was looking back through the history in August comparing each city, looking at both heat and humidity together. I meant that the humidity and heat was comparable for that temperature about a week ago in South Bend. There were certainly times that the humidity was higher in Tallahasse, and in fact I'm sure most days it was as I didn't check every day. I'm just saying given the evening format for the game and the slightly cooler temperature I don't know if I buy the heat & humidity line.

Here's an example: about a week before the game on Aug 25th it hit a high of 90% in the afternoon and early evening when practice would be held, and there was 70% humidity. That's actually a hotter temp than kickoff with the same humidity level. Again, not everyday was like that as there were hot days that only were around 50% humidity in South Bend, but it was also getting cooler as the game went on Sunday night in Tallahasse.

I'm in no way trying to say Florida ain't hot and humid as all hell. If they were playing this game at 3pm, I'd sooner execute the whole team than send them out into that shit Just saying that since this was a night game and cooler I don't know if it would have been incredibly worse than afternoon/early evening practices in South Bend roughly a week ago.

 

[ulukinatme]

Needs the twin Spiderman meme with Freeman.

 

[dublinirish]

Here's the head scratcher: If you are losing LBs left and right and your LBs are gassed, why are you taking more DL off the field? Go ahead and drop your most athletic DE to an LB spot and call it 3-3-5 if you must.

I know Freeman is really smart and he's been dealt a difficult hand losing three players (one of which was a breakout candidate) to injury and another to COVID or something: Marist, Moala, Simon, Bothelo. We were excited for 2 of those 4 and we've seen the other 2 come up big at moments in their careers.

Marist and Bothelo would probably be the two most violent players coming out of summer/fall camp and they were gone. Time to give Freeman some space to learn his personnel and adjust.

well they did have Justin A at times playing what looked like LB way off the LOS and it didn't look great

 

[BabyIrish]

An actual good article from Driskell on the defense and how he thinks it’s about to explode in a good way.

https://www.si.com/college/notredam...ootball-midweek-musings-marcus-freeman-purdue

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

An actual good article from Driskell on the defense and how he thinks it’s about to explode in a good way.

https://www.si.com/college/notredam...ootball-midweek-musings-marcus-freeman-purdue

This is a win-win. Either he is right and the defense starts to play really well, or Driskell is wrong, and I love when he's wrong. Obviously hoping for the former...haha

 

[Irish8248]

This is a win-win. Either he is right and the defense starts to play really well, or Driskell is wrong, and I love when he's wrong. Obviously hoping for the former...haha

I mean he's basically saying everything that we've all said. A play when you're too aggressive or one person is out of position, can lead to monster gains. So clean that up and your defense is naturally better.

I don't think anyone disagrees that we're more disruptive and aggressive.

 

[ulukinatme]

This is a win-win. Either he is right and the defense starts to play really well, or Driskell is wrong, and I love when he's wrong. Obviously hoping for the former...haha

Yeah, I really hope they do end up exploding and playing well. We've invested in Freeman and having to hit the reset a year or two from now would be a major setback when this team is trying to close the gap with the Big 3 teams. We've got a horrible track record with "aggressive" style coaches though.

 

[Rockin’Irish]

Crossing my fingers this is the game where the defensive players turn the corner……..third game is the charm, so to speak.

 

[tko]

Crossing my fingers Freeman isn't VanTenuta

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/greg2126/status/1440731881033535493?s=21[/TWEET]. Very interesting thread on Freeman vs Purdue.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/greg2126/status/1440731881033535493?s=21[/TWEET]. Very interesting thread on Freeman vs Purdue.

I wonder how the defense would have adjusted if there was pre-snap motion on that play. Do they still disguise as man coverage, follow the motion and have their assignments switch or do they just stay in their pre-snap alignment and basically show their hand that they're disguising a zone? Still very interesting, nice disguise by Freeman on third and long. Keep the QB guessing post-snap, gives our four man rush more time to get home.