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Some Irish Bloke said:
I wonder how the defense would have adjusted if there was pre-snap motion on that play. Do they still disguise man and have their assignments switch or do they just stay in their pre-snap alignment and basically show their hand that they're disguising zone? Still very interesting, nice disguise by Freeman on third and long. Keep the QB guessing post-snap, gives our four man rush more time to get home.
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We'll have to find out later this year! I would hope we can trade off zones out of Dime since most of the people dropping are DBs so it shouldn't put one out of position really, but who knows if they feel confident in their ability to do that though.
 
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Needs your signature Boing Boing Boing gif. Wish I knew the source for it.
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78 rushing yards and 2.8 YPC allowed AND that's without Hinish. Against Wisconsin. Really great performance today.
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Interesting what happens when you go out and get the best guy available. Between the recruiting and the play on the field, Freeman seems to be a home run. Wonder what the offense would look like if we had the same mindset when the OC and OL coach jobs were available. Where would we be with Moorhead in charge of the offense?
 
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NDRock said:
Interesting what happens when you go out and get the best guy available. Between the recruiting and the play on the field, Freeman seems to be a home run. Wonder what the offense would look like if we had the same mindset when the OC and OL coach jobs were available. Where would we be with Moorhead in charge of the offense?
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I was really disappointed when he didn't land here. Thought it would've worked out well.
 
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I think he will be a good hire in the long run. However he has a lot to learn. You can’t keep dropping your best pass rusher In Foskey in coverage. Foskey is going to lose that battle almost every time and then you waste his ability. The second TD drive in the first have was terrible for the defense. Their QB had people open everywhere due to the soft coverage and with the defensive line being our strongest part of the team you shouldn’t be play 3 main fronts.

If you can’t coach them up and have a good game plan then recruiting means Nothing.
 
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No idea why he was a top choice in DC. He is not good. He plays 3 down lineman instead of with a running QB. He keeps dropping Foskey in coverage. And he can’t make in game adjustments.
 
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This isn’t a comment on Freeman who I thought did not have them prepared at all tonight but just random thought as our havoc #s have gone done a little….

is there a master “holdings against” type stat? Because we have to be near the bottom. It’s near incredible. They don’t get a single call
 
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Through the first half of the season we are allowing 24.33333 points per game. That’s not top 50. Better be a great recruiter with numbers like that.
 
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My hope is Vanderbilt continues tanking and Lea comes back. For whatever reason I just don't think an attacking defense works here, it's struggled to take hold before. I love that we're getting picks, but we're giving up easy TDs to teams we have no business giving up a bunch of TDs to. Through 6 games we've given up an average of 23.3 points per game. Through 6 games last year we had given up 10.3 points and with the exception of Cincinnati the opponents weren't much different.
 
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I’ve said from Day 1 I’d caution expecting Freeman to come close to Lea as a DC in the coaching aspect. BUT, in the comparison, you have to remember Lea left Freeman with, not a lot. The DL is the only position group that is at the talent level it should be. A 2021 ND Lea D would likely be better than this one, but would have also likely been worse than last two years directly because of Lea.

Looking at Playoff aspirations, Lea was never going to land the type of talent that would be needed to stop Playoff caliber offenses. Freeman can. From there you hope the talent + the Xs and Os is better than less talent with better Xs and Os
 
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Dale said:
I’ve said from Day 1 I’d caution expecting Freeman to come close to Lea as a DC in the coaching aspect. BUT, in the comparison, you have to remember Lea left Freeman with, not a lot. The DL is the only position group that is at the talent level it should be. A 2021 ND Lea D would likely be better than this one, but would have also likely been worse than last two years directly because of Lea.

Looking at Playoff aspirations, Lea was never going to land the type of talent that would be needed to stop Playoff caliber offenses. Freeman can. From there you hope the talent + the Xs and Os is better than less talent with better Xs and Os
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I do agree that I think we've lacked the fast, attacking type players across the board to make that defense work in the past. We may get some here and there, but If we land a handful of some of those freaks it could make the difference.
 
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Dale said:
I’ve said from Day 1 I’d caution expecting Freeman to come close to Lea as a DC in the coaching aspect. BUT, in the comparison, you have to remember Lea left Freeman with, not a lot. The DL is the only position group that is at the talent level it should be. A 2021 ND Lea D would likely be better than this one, but would have also likely been worse than last two years directly because of Lea.

Looking at Playoff aspirations, Lea was never going to land the type of talent that would be needed to stop Playoff caliber offenses. Freeman can. From there you hope the talent + the Xs and Os is better than less talent with better Xs and Os
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Lea held 2018 Clemson (one of the best offenses in the past couple years) to a reasonable point total. If ND played an offense with similar talent this year they’d lose by 8 touchdowns. Lol.
 
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Lea held 2018 Clemson (one of the best offenses in the past couple years) to a reasonable point total. If ND played an offense with similar talent this year they’d lose by 8 touchdowns. Lol.
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That’s kind of the point though right? That D had Lea’s coaching + talent largely recruited by not Lea.
 
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Dale said:
That’s kind of the point though right? That D had Lea’s coaching + talent largely recruited by not Lea.
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Wel then how about 2019? Held Georgia pretty much in check.

2020? The ACC championship game held Clemson to 30 some odd points. Same with Bama in the bowl game. The problem in all those games was not the defense. Unless your expectation is to hold those teams to a field goal in order to win.

Anyhow, seems to me like that’s good enough to win a championship level of play on that side of the ball.
 
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Dale said:
I’ve said from Day 1 I’d caution expecting Freeman to come close to Lea as a DC in the coaching aspect. BUT, in the comparison, you have to remember Lea left Freeman with, not a lot. The DL is the only position group that is at the talent level it should be. A 2021 ND Lea D would likely be better than this one, but would have also likely been worse than last two years directly because of Lea.

Looking at Playoff aspirations, Lea was never going to land the type of talent that would be needed to stop Playoff caliber offenses. Freeman can. From there you hope the talent + the Xs and Os is better than less talent with better Xs and Os
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I am not saying that we don’t need that upgraded talent because it’s clear we do. We need to quit offering so many 3 star Db’s. The things that work me are things talent don’t fix.

Our tackling has been bad. We don’t wrap up very well. That’s fundamentals.

I don’t see the in game adjustments that I saw with Lea. His inability to use the players now to their best ability. Foskey in coverage is a waste. He is a physical guy that pins his ears back and goes after the QB like a mad man. You can’t teach that ability. And considering the over all play of the D-line this year it is the strength of the defense use that depth. Our linebacker depth isn’t good due to injuries but don’t expose them either.
 
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Yeah, Freeman's lack of in game adjustments is concerning. VT did their homework and their game plan going in was to run the QB. They even had the previously unused back up to help do it. We never really stopped it. On their next to last drive Burmeister got 8 on a 3rd and 9, if he had gotten another yard they probably beat us.

We'll continue to see this until we show we can stop it. I like Freeman scheme vs a drop back QB who doesn't run (like USC) but teams with a QB who can run are giving us fits.
 
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