Marcus Freeman named Dick Corbett Head Football Coach

[PutuporShutup]

Beats me why you change the subject. I responded to your post blaming Kelly for the Stanford and Marshall losses. Notre Dame had better talent, by far, in both of those games. Kelly had absolutely nothing to do with those losses. Zero, zilch, nada.

iaintlukinatunomo.

The pivoting by some here is like a Ross friends scene

 

[PutuporShutup]

Kelly/Long recruiting poorly in the '19 and '20 classes offensively had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with putting up 14 points and averaging less than 5 yards per play against Stanford?

Wrap your head around that one...

ND has consistently had poor outings under Kelly. The difference is that ND has generally had enough talent in the final few Kelly years to get them out of those slogs.

2018: Ball State (24-16), Vanderbilt (22-17), Pitt (19-14)
2019: Virginia Tech (21-20)
2020: Duke (27-13), Louisville (12-7)
2021: Florida State (41-38 OT), Toledo (32-29), Virginia Tech (32-29)

ND consistently had enough skill talent to get them past those teams. But that wasn't the case last season. QB play was far worse than it had been in years. Even with Wimbush, we at least had his dynamic running ability to fall back on in 2017.

Pyne had his solid moments, but when he was bad, he was BAD. And the only real bail-out he had was tossing it up to Mayer.

It's not just about having more talent than your opponent. It's having enough talent and enough difference makers to get your team through poor performances. Every team has them. Even Georgia last year, as dominant as they were, needed just enough from their top guys to squeak by a bad Missouri team.

Lenzy styles Thomas colzie Tobias - that’s 5 heavily recruited 4 star wrs…. Freeman was allowed to get a portal qb and wr last year before the 22 season and didn’t

Wr is the easiest position to get on the field early, that and corner

 

[PutuporShutup]

I would love to have more frequent and in depth conversations on recruiting, roster, or schemes but this topic does not hold mu intetest

Yeah would love to discuss if we’re going to have DEs in coverage in our dime package or when our D is in the red zone are we going to play nickel and let them run the ball in easily.

On offense is Thomas slot or outside? Do we spread it out a ton forcing teams not to load the box and estime breaks wills.

 

[PutuporShutup]

This board is getting borderline hard to read lately. Between the dudes that makes 100 accounts, and these dudes that shit on every non 5 star recruit, shit on freeman, blow Kelly, analyze the latest shit Swarbrick took, and make sure he did it wrong.

It's like, I wonder if these dudes argue with themselves in the mirror daily, or they're just cucks that self loathe. Who knows? 🤷‍♂️

Because people like you have homer blinders on to freeman, some of our recruits, jack, etc.

Discussing freeman’s coaching deficiencies, our struggle in recruiting to end last year, jacks scheduling, etc are valid topics unless you think everyone in south bend or going there can do no wrong.

 

[FWIrish4]

Lenzy styles Thomas colzie Tobias - that’s 5 heavily recruited 4 star wrs…. Freeman was allowed to get a portal qb and wr last year before the 22 season and didn’t

Wr is the easiest position to get on the field early, that and corner

Yeah that was literally the only receivers we had on the roster. And who was responsible for that recruiting? Also, they were all sophomores and a freshman. You just made an argument against yourself.

 

[PutuporShutup]

Yeah that was literally the only receivers we had on the roster. And who was responsible for that recruiting? Also, they were all sophomores and a freshman. You just made an argument against yourself.

Really? Ohio State had 4 WRs play meaningful minutes last year on probably the top offense in the country.

Their 2 starting WRs were sophomores. Yes 1 was a 5 star.

We had styles coming off really good close to his Frosh year, and he didn't develop and had a brutal year. Styles was right with harrison and close to egbuka in how highly rated and recruited they were.

Egbuka and harrison hardly played as true frosh for ohio state. Colzie and Thomas were extremely sought after WR recruits that didn't have good sophomore years. (thomas had some solid games, and colzie had a momment or two)

Yes, it would have been awesome to have a ton more WRs. But we had a talented SR WR, we had 3 Talented soph wrs, and a talented frosh WR. The talent was there, the development was not.

THe issue last year wasn't our WR talent, it was not getting a QB from the portal. Kelly solved that in 2021 season, freeman didn't in 22. Bottom line. We had a bunch of highly rated QB busts in Phil, Buchner, Pyne. You fix that by utilizing the portal or grad transfers.

We could have gotten some bodies at WR from the portal too.

I'm all in for blaming kelly and staff on inconsistent WR recruiting and poor QB evaluation. But by no means should we have had such a bad offense last year even with these issues. A portal QB solves a ton of that.

Yes Daniels and Slovis didn't have great stats last year but they are better qbs than buchner/pyne. They were just surrounded by poor offenses at WVU and Pitt. Slovis was a monster at USC when he had a few really good players around him, pitt didn't have that. Daniels played really well too at times when he had talent around him, didn't have that at WV.

Pyne had an oline that became really good, some top RBs, the best TE, and young talent at WR. WE just had terrible QB play, maybe terrible qb development and not great play calling as well with Rees.

 

[Crazy Balki]

Really? Ohio State had 4 WRs play meaningful minutes last year on probably the top offense in the country.

Their 2 starting WRs were sophomores. Yes 1 was a 5 star.

We had styles coming off really good close to his Frosh year, and he didn't develop and had a brutal year. Styles was right with harrison and close to egbuka in how highly rated and recruited they were.

Egbuka and harrison hardly played as true frosh for ohio state. Colzie and Thomas were extremely sought after WR recruits that didn't have good sophomore years. (thomas had some solid games, and colzie had a momment or two)

Yes, it would have been awesome to have a ton more WRs. But we had a talented SR WR, we had 3 Talented soph wrs, and a talented frosh WR. The talent was there, the development was not.

THe issue last year wasn't our WR talent, it was not getting a QB from the portal. Kelly solved that in 2021 season, freeman didn't in 22. Bottom line. We had a bunch of highly rated QB busts in Phil, Buchner, Pyne. You fix that by utilizing the portal or grad transfers.

We could have gotten some bodies at WR from the portal too.

I'm all in for blaming kelly and staff on inconsistent WR recruiting and poor QB evaluation. But by no means should we have had such a bad offense last year even with these issues. A portal QB solves a ton of that.

Yes Daniels and Slovis didn't have great stats last year but they are better qbs than buchner/pyne. They were just surrounded by poor offenses at WVU and Pitt. Slovis was a monster at USC when he had a few really good players around him, pitt didn't have that. Daniels played really well too at times when he had talent around him, didn't have that at WV.

Pyne had an oline that became really good, some top RBs, the best TE, and young talent at WR. WE just had terrible QB play, maybe terrible qb development and not great play calling as well with Rees.

Smh....

JT Daniels

61.2% 13 TD 9 INT 6.4 YPA

Kedon Slovis

58.4% 10 TD 9 INT 7.6 YPA

Drew Pyne

64.6% 22 TD 6 INT 8 YPA

Pyne outplayed Daniels AND Slovis, despite the clear disadvantages at WR for ND.

Stop. You've put up. Now it's time to SHUT THE FUCK UP!

 

[TheRealLynch51]

Because people like you have homer blinders on to freeman, some of our recruits, jack, etc.

Discussing freeman’s coaching deficiencies, our struggle in recruiting to end last year, jacks scheduling, etc are valid topics unless you think everyone in south bend or going there can do no wrong.

And us poor simpletons could never be fully educated about our terrible homerism without your selfless tippity taps on your little keyboard. Thank you sir! Truly an inspiration!! Seriously though, go outside and touch some fucking grass.

 

[TorontoGold]

Because people like you have homer blinders on to freeman, some of our recruits, jack, etc.

Discussing freeman’s coaching deficiencies, our struggle in recruiting to end last year, jacks scheduling, etc are valid topics unless you think everyone in south bend or going there can do no wrong.

Which original points have been made in this batch of outbursts? Do you think no one has made these points already? Maybe they've even been posted a couple times!

Try something new like discussing a change recruiting strategy on a certain type of prospect under MF!

Discussing the same hypotheticals about how Kelly would have won against Marshall/Stanford is nails on a chalkboard.

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[PutuporShutup]

Smh....

JT Daniels

61.2% 13 TD 9 INT 6.4 YPA

Kedon Slovis

58.4% 10 TD 9 INT 7.6 YPA

Drew Pyne

64.6% 22 TD 6 INT 8 YPA

Pyne outplayed Daniels AND Slovis, despite the clear disadvantages at WR for ND.

Stop. You've put up. Now it's time to SHUT THE FUCK UP!

Pyne had significantly better offensive weapons than pitt and wvu, not even close

Look at Slovis with weapons at usc, had insane frosh year

It’s funny, I bet you expect our wrs you claim aren’t good to be really good this year lol. Cause that fits your narrative. When Thomas has 1000 yards receiving this year what will your excuse be for last year? Qb obviously. Wrs under Daniels and Slovis had great years, not under Buchner or pyne.

Facts are Slovis and Daniel’s played awesome when surrounded by good talent, they did not play as well on bum offenses. Pyne did not play well on a very talented offense, albeit young.

 

[PutuporShutup]

And us poor simpletons could never be fully educated about our terrible homerism without your selfless tippity taps on your little keyboard. Thank you sir! Truly an inspiration!! Seriously though, go outside and touch some fucking grass.

Who is swearing on a message board to try and prove a point. Wow, you must be the life of a party.

 

[PutuporShutup]

Which original points have been made in this batch of outbursts? Do you think no one has made these points already? Maybe they've even been posted a couple times!

Try something new like discussing a change recruiting strategy on a certain type of prospect under MF!

Discussing the same hypotheticals about how Kelly would have won against Marshall/Stanford is nails on a chalkboard.

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They will and should continue being main topics and points until fixed…. Won’t know until the fall.

When posters blame those losses on Kelly who wasn’t even there, what do you think will happen?

I don’t even want to think about Stanford and Marshall, but people can’t admit freeman as a first year coach wasn’t as good as needed.

There’s a ton to love about freeman, but right now it’s like a butterface…. He’s perfect but his coaching.

 

[GoIrish41]

They will and should continue being main topics and points until fixed…. Won’t know until the fall.

When posters blame those losses on Kelly who wasn’t even there, what do you think will happen?

I don’t even want to think about Stanford and Marshall, but people can’t admit freeman as a first year coach wasn’t as good as needed.

There’s a ton to love about freeman, but right now it’s like a butterface…. He’s perfect but his coaching.

Got any other points or are you going to keep making the same one ad nauseam? JFC man, talk about something else or STFU! Nobody wants to hear you make the same comment a hundred times a day.

 

[Irishdrunk]

Who is swearing on a message board to try and prove a point. Wow, you must be the life of a party.

PutUp:

The Real Lynch is very emotional. She doesn't let facts get in her way.

 

[PutuporShutup]

Got any other points or are you going to keep making the same one ad nauseam? JFC man, talk about something else or STFU! Nobody wants to hear you make the same comment a hundred times a day.

Didn’t get one response on my post on DEs in coverage, playing nickel in the red zone, how much will we spread teams out, who will be main slot wr, do we run much 2 tes? Does staes become a monster?

But I said freeman made some major mistakes leading into and during 2022 season…. 50 responses hammering, one agreeing, despite losing to Marshall and the worst Stanford team in a long time.

It really seems like a lot of posters would prefer to tell a poster they disagree with to stfu then discuss football.

Butterface

 

[Irishdrunk]

Looking at recruiting - it is obvious that those stupid fucking losses to Marshall and Stanford and the inability of the ND Admin to put their money where their so-called mandates are with elite staffing has cost us on the recruiting trail.

We just closed the #12 class in 2023. That is hardly a great class. Idiots are now saying "we will stack Gap Closing Classes" - HUH??? #12 is #12. Kelly could have landed that type of class.

Now in 2024 Lambert and Scott seem to be slipping away. Why??? Because of above.

Currently, our Oline recruiting this year sucks. And the DL for 2024 isn't looking great either.

We will "stack" another Top 15 class with the Top 12 Class in 2023. Good luck with that!

 

[GoIrish41]

It really seems like a lot of posters would prefer to tell a poster they disagree with to stfu then discuss football.

It’s not a discussion if you make the same point in every post. It’s a tedious, annoying lecture.

 

[PutuporShutup]

It’s not a discussion if you make the same point in every post. It’s a tedious, annoying lecture.

I don’t want to leave any posters behind, so I’ll gladly let each that clearly want to know we didn’t lose to Marshall and Stanford because of Kelly. Ooops I did it again

 

[TheRealLynch51]

Who is swearing on a message board to try and prove a point. Wow, you must be the life of a party.

This post is just one big piece of irony.

 

[stlnd01]

Didn’t get one response on my post on DEs in coverage, playing nickel in the red zone, how much will we spread teams out, who will be main slot wr, do we run much 2 tes? Does staes become a monster?

But I said freeman made some major mistakes leading into and during 2022 season…. 50 responses hammering, one agreeing, despite losing to Marshall and the worst Stanford team in a long time.

It really seems like a lot of posters would prefer to tell a poster they disagree with to stfu then discuss football.

Butterface

Sorry. That one must've got lost amid the six other combative posts you made in one thread before 7:15 on a Sunday morning. (Unless you and Dublin are neighbors or something).

I wanna see Tyree in the slot. I think we'll be less TE heavy than last year, and spread teams out more (then ram Estime & co. inside). And no we should not drop our DEs in coverage I don't care how athletic they are. Bring the pressure. Always.

 

[PutuporShutup]

Sorry. That one must've got lost amid the six other combative posts you made in one thread before 7:15 on a Sunday morning.

I wanna see Tyree in the slot. I think we'll be less TE heavy than last year, and spread teams out more (then ram Estime & co. inside). And no we should not drop our DEs in coverage I don't care how athletic they are. Bring the pressure. Always.

I'm good with DEs in coverage when it's hidden, we did less of it last year but still some where we'd be in dime package and have DEs as LBs and LBs as safeties. Made absolutely no sense. At least disguise it.

I like the idea of Tyree in the slot but I also like Thomas as well because he's such a good blocker, you can shift him from slot to almost the 2nd TE. I just don't think colzie is that great and Thomas will have to place outside more.

 

[stlnd01]

I'm good with DEs in coverage when it's hidden, we did less of it last year but still some where we'd be in dime package and have DEs as LBs and LBs as safeties. Made absolutely no sense. At least disguise it.

I like the idea of Tyree in the slot but I also like Thomas as well because he's such a good blocker, you can shift him from slot to almost the 2nd TE. I just don't think colzie is that great and Thomas will have to place outside more.

I love Thomas. I actually think right now today he's our best overall WR. But yeah he can play outside too (where his blocking comes in handy more), and he doesn't have Tyree's speed. Some slot is fine for him too, but I want to see what Tyree can do, and put Thomas outside. If Colzie and Merriweather emerge as the player we hope they can be and have to get on the field, can always slide Thomas inside. That's a good problem to have.

 

[PutuporShutup]

I love Thomas. I actually think right now today he's our best overall WR. But yeah he can play outside too (where his blocking comes in handy more), and he doesn't have Tyree's speed. Some slot is fine for him too, but I want to see what Tyree can do, and put Thomas outside. If Colzie and Merriweather emerge as the player we hope they can be and have to get on the field, can always slide Thomas inside. That's a good problem to have.

One of those two (colzie/tobias) have to emerge. I believe it will be tobias because he just is significantly more athletic. I think colzie will be that 4th wr that is big and finds holes in the zone but struggles beating man.

 

[indianamouse]

Looking at recruiting - it is obvious that those stupid fucking losses to Marshall and Stanford and the inability of the ND Admin to put their money where their so-called mandates are with elite staffing has cost us on the recruiting trail.

We just closed the #12 class in 2023. That is hardly a great class. Idiots are now saying "we will stack Gap Closing Classes" - HUH??? #12 is #12. Kelly could have landed that type of class.

Now in 2024 Lambert and Scott seem to be slipping away. Why??? Because of above.

Currently, our Oline recruiting this year sucks. And the DL for 2024 isn't looking great either.

We will "stack" another Top 15 class with the Top 12 Class in 2023. Good luck with that!

Don’t just look at rankings, look at BCR. Kelly averaged what? 55%? What does freeman average? We are getting actual athletes now

 

[Ndaccountant]

At the end of the day, I'm not a mercenary fan. I root for ND because of what ND stands for. I want a national championship, sure. But I love Lou not because he won one, but how he did it and how he embraced the challenge. I may be an old school white middle aged dude that is "out of touch", but its how results are achieved matter more that the achievement themselves. BK got results, but it's clear he views it that he did with concrete blocks locked to his legs. Freeman looks at those same blocks and imagines how they will make his quads look more swole when he swims with them. I will back that dude until proven otherwise. He was a first year coach that made first year coach mistakes. I am so fucking shocked. ND was a top 20 team last year and that is where they finished, Freeman or BK. I am more I terested to see how Freeman handles year 2 than discussing BK. We know who that self-serving small dick guy is. He can take his known ceiling and fuck off. He wouldn't break thru at ND and he knew it. I am eagerly awaiting to see if MF can. I know I will be cheering him on much stronger than I did Kelly. Accountant out.

 

[irishandy]

ND is in good hands with Freeman and I back Freeman 100% he is another Lou Holtz who understands & loves the University of Notre Dame.

Year 1 presented hurdles and growing pains as it should've and I think year 2 will show improvement.

There is a lot to be excited about- the WR talk about above I am excited for Colzie, Merriweather, and Greathouse, they have a QB that can throw to them.

83 days until game 1, I am ready!

 

[Irishdrunk]

ND is in good hands with Freeman and I back Freeman 100% he is another Lou Holtz who understands & loves the University of Notre Dame.

Year 1 presented hurdles and growing pains as it should've and I think year 2 will show improvement.

There is a lot to be excited about- the WR talk about above I am excited for Colzie, Merriweather, and Greathouse, they have a QB that can throw to them.

83 days until game 1, I am ready!

Freeman is not Lou Holtz. Lou Holtz had a track record worthy of being an ND Head Coach. Freeman is a very likable assistant promoted to Head Coach. We all hope for the best.

 

[Irishdrunk]

Don’t just look at rankings, look at BCR. Kelly averaged what? 55%? What does freeman average? We are getting actual athletes now

Just not many elite 5 star players. Kelly was a great HC that got the most out of his non-elite recruiting- thus far Freeman will need to prove he can also do this. The recruiting is basically the same.

 

[irishnd31]

Who is swearing on a message board to try and prove a point. Wow, you must be the life of a party.

I’d party with him!

 

[ulukinatme]

Beats me why you change the subject. I responded to your post blaming Kelly for the Stanford and Marshall losses. Notre Dame had better talent, by far, in both of those games. Kelly had absolutely nothing to do with those losses. Zero, zilch, nada.

iaintlukinatunomo.

Then live in ignorance, I don't really care.