Jim Rome is the worst

[Booslum31]

Full disclosure: I was in football and band.

That would have been cool to see you at halftime rocking your football gear while playing the trombone. Serious question...can you do that with a helmet on?

 

[kmoose]

He's not *wrong* -- nearly every band kid I've ever met was a dork. But that doesn't mean there's anything *wrong* with that, or that it's cool or even worth my time to belittle them for doing something that's harmless and brings them joy.

Some of those band geeks are going to pulling max pu$$y, long after the athletes' steroid-riddled 'nads have shriveled up to nothing.

Chicks dig musicians!

 

[IrishJayhawk]

That would have been cool to see you at halftime rocking your football gear while playing the trombone. Serious question...can you do that with a helmet on?

Lots of small high schools have their players march in uniforms (without helmets...that wouldn't have been possible. ). My program didn't. I marched with a bass drum.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Bands are essential to make the game a more family friendly experience. If we are going to get stereotypical: dad and son watch game, mom and daughter watch cheerleaders/band. Something for everyone.

 

[phork]

Full disclosure: I was in football and band.

Call me crazy, but I didn't see that coming.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

Call me crazy, but I didn't see that coming.

 

[Irish#1]

I don't think bandies are necessarily "cool," but I'm not going to belittle them or anything. I remember in high school trying to watch the band from the locker room at halftime. We had a really good band my freshman and sophomore years, but my family moved to the Dayton area and the band at the new school was absolute crap. They played the same damn halftime show every game, never any different, so damn boring. They said that they were a "competition band," and they were trying to perfect their routine or some shit. Fortunately the locker room at that 2nd school was pretty far from the field, so I wasn't missing much. I actually spent more time with bandies and other athletes in high school, like tennis/track/swim people, didn't really hang out with other football jocks much...probably because I was in a lot of AP/Honors classes, very few football players were there.

The delivery might be a little harsh and insensitive, but can't say I've ever been much of a fan of marching bands either...never got the allure and most band people I have met in my life have been kind of dorky...obviously that is not all of them, but has just been my own personal experience.

Band at my school was the same...went from a good regular marching band to a competition marching band and played stuff you din't know and the same exact songs and exact steps so they could be as good as possible at the end of season competitions

I don't care if he doesn't like them. He doesn't have to. But this is another stupid and over-masculine statement. He needs to watch the Breakfast Club and realize he's not in high school.

My four boys played football, baseball and wrestled from the peewee through HS. One started playing the trumpet and started in the band his 8th grade year. Bands two a days are every bit as brutal and maybe more than football, given they practice on hot asphalt. His older brother kept razzing him about being a band nerd. One night he gets his trumpet and hands it to his brother. He tells him to hold the trumpet to his mouth and keep his elbows straight out. Then instructs him to get up on the balls of his feet and march backwards while blowing for 8 minutes. Never heard another band nerd comment after that. Love the bands.

 

[wizards8507]

Full disclosure: I was in football and band.

So was I. We didn't have a marching band but I was in the concert band, wind ensemble, and jazz band. It wasn't unusual for football players and band kids to overlap.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

My four boys played football, baseball and wrestled from the peewee through HS. One started playing the trumpet and started in the band his 8th grade year. Bands two a days are every bit as brutal and maybe more than football, given they practice on hot asphalt. His older brother kept razzing him about being a band nerd. One night he gets his trumpet and hands it to his brother. He tells him to hold the trumpet to his mouth and keep his elbows straight out. Then instructs him to get up on the balls of his feet and march backwards while blowing for 8 minutes. Never heard another band nerd comment after that. Love the bands.

Totally. Bands have a yearly "hell week" that's pretty brutal as well.

 

[Hammer Of The Gods]

So was I. We didn't have a marching band but I was in the concert band, wind ensemble, and jazz band. It wasn't unusual for football players and band kids to overlap.

We had a kid on my team who participated in Band and played football, he would miss Halftime adjustments to play the Halftime show. That kid took a tremendous amount of Verbal and physical abuse, from team mates and Coaches, but he never caved. Pretty impressive really, I would of hung one of the two up with the amount of abuse he had to put up with. I'm sure he has a "to kill" list in his bedroom.

 

[ulukinatme]

My four boys played football, baseball and wrestled from the peewee through HS. One started playing the trumpet and started in the band his 8th grade year. Bands two a days are every bit as brutal and maybe more than football, given they practice on hot asphalt. His older brother kept razzing him about being a band nerd. One night he gets his trumpet and hands it to his brother. He tells him to hold the trumpet to his mouth and keep his elbows straight out. Then instructs him to get up on the balls of his feet and march backwards while blowing for 8 minutes. Never heard another band nerd comment after that. Love the bands.

Hey now...I supported the band and didn't envy them in their itchy outfits practicing in the heat...but I never saw any band members puke during a hot practice. I don't think any of them were used as battering rams against 300 lbs OTs either (I apparently wasn't giving enough effort on scout team against our big OT one day as a Sophomore, so our roided LB coach, former college player, grabbed me by the shoulder pads and started using me as a buffer to bum rush the OL). I never saw any band members carted off the field. My best friends in high school were mostly band members, I heard some stories...just sayin' their two-a-days weren't quite as brutal as mine.

 

[GoldenDomer]

Hey now...I supported the band and didn't envy them in their itchy outfits practicing in the heat...but I never saw any band members puke during a hot practice. I don't think any of them were used as battering rams against 300 lbs OTs either (I apparently wasn't giving enough effort on scout team against our big OT one day as a Sophomore, so our roided LB coach, former college player, grabbed me by the shoulder pads and started using me as a buffer to bum rush the OL). I never saw any band members carted off the field. My best friends in high school were mostly band members, I heard some stories...just sayin' their two-a-days weren't quite as brutal as mine.

+1.

The bands are great, and are a great extracurricular for those who don't play sports, but lets pump the breaks. I have heard that argument about it being harder than football practice and it's silly.

Who do you think would be worse off; a tuba player in the Oklahoma drill or a football player marching?

I get that they practice long hours, but there's no where near as much physical toll.

 

[ulukinatme]

Looks like the Band has fired shots back, and Rome had to issue an apology already:

Jim Rome tweets his take on marching bands, then tweets apology for his take on marching bands - The Washington Post

 

[no.1IrishFan]

That's my biggest issue with Rome. It's like he is always trying to make up for not being accepted by the cool kids or jocks in HS.

This x100

He's the kind of guy you hope never becomes a cop.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

+1.

The bands are great, and are a great extracurricular for those who don't play sports, but lets pump the breaks. I have heard that argument about it being harder than football practice and it's silly.

Who do you think would be worse off; a tuba player in the Oklahoma drill or a football player marching?

I get that they practice long hours, but there's no where near as much physical toll.

Who cares. It can be incredibly rigorous, especially at high levels. My point is that Rome is a jackhole and thinks he's still in high school.

I also love how many military marching bands responded to him.

Jim Rome apologizes for calling marching bands 'dorks' - NY Daily News

He broke one of his two cardinal rules:
1. He had a take.
2. It sucked.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

We had a kid on my team who participated in Band and played football, he would miss Halftime adjustments to play the Halftime show. That kid took a tremendous amount of Verbal and physical abuse, from team mates and Coaches, but he never caved. Pretty impressive really, I would of hung one of the two up with the amount of abuse he had to put up with. I'm sure he has a "to kill" list in his bedroom.

This still happens in some places. It's getting better, but it's still around. Overly masculine garbage.

 

[dshans]

My son, now 27, started playing alto sax in fourth grade. In high school he played in the marching and concert bands. The practices, training and "workouts" that began in August in preparation for football season were pretty damn grueling. A lot of sweat and ibuprofen and laundry detergent were involved.

His freshman year the band went to Hawai'i. I've never been and am still jealous. I was a swimmer and never went further than Atlanta from Orlando. Sweat was rarely an issue. His band also went to L.A.

They played in the Hollywood Christmas Parade. Leave it to Hollywood to stage and video tape the event (for later broadcast) just before Thanksgiving.

The point is that the kids worked their asses off. Lessons were learned and discipline and structure imposed. Life lessons. Piss on the likes of Rome.

 

[GoldenDomer]

 

[ThePiombino]

Wait. Are we saying there ARE people not in marching bands who think dorks running around with their instruments are cool?

 

[ulukinatme]

Wait. Are we saying there ARE people not in marching bands who think dorks running around with their instruments are cool?

I guess so. I didn't think band kids were necessarily the coolest, but I called many of them my friends and I thought they did some impressive stuff.

 

[twig21]

Rome is a tool, he was entertaining when he first started on radio here in LA now he is annoying. Here is a list of so-called band dorks. Lionel Richie, Halle Berry, Andy Griffith, Julia Roberts, Gloria Estafan, Bill Clinton, Jennifer Garner, Vince Carter, Gwen Stefani and the coolest guy on tv ever Tom Selleck. There are many more incredibly talented, famous people who participated in bands. As previously stated there are many more in military bands, clearly Rome is the dork.

 

[woolybug25]

So was I. We didn't have a marching band but I was in the concert band, wind ensemble, and jazz band. It wasn't unusual for football players and band kids to overlap.

Show me your jazz hands.








Why did Rome have to apologize for calling band members dorks? Bunch of sensitive weirdos out there. Should the producers of the American Pie movies apologize for making band kids look like dorks? I had friends in band and don't dislike band members. But hell... I thought everybody made fun of band dorks? no?

 

[IrishJayhawk]

Why did Rome have to apologize for calling band members dorks? Bunch of sensitive weirdos out there. Should the producers of the American Pie movies apologize for making band kids look like dorks? I had friends in band and don't dislike band members. But hell... I thought everybody made fun of band dorks? no?

1. Jazz hands would be a show choir move, not a jazz band move.
2. He didn't have to apologize. But people were free to react and they called him out for acting like a "popular" kid sitting in the back of the lunch room.

 

[NDRock]

Why did Rome have to apologize for calling band members dorks? Bunch of sensitive weirdos out there. Should the producers of the American Pie movies apologize for making band kids look like dorks? I had friends in band and don't dislike band members. But hell... I thought everybody made fun of band dorks? no?

Agree, why would anyone be offended by what Jim Rome says? Who gives a shit? People get their feelings hurt too easily.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

Agree, why would anyone be offended by what Jim Rome says? Who gives a shit? People get their feelings hurt too easily.

Well then go back to the other thread where people have their feelings hurt by what people say about the SEC.

 

[Circa]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Is there anyone not in a marching band who thinks those dorks running around with their instruments are cool?</p>— Jim Rome (@jimrome) <a href="https://twitter.com/jimrome/status/550803844188213249">January 2, 2015</a></blockquote>
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I would hate to be the breaker of old news but usually the band is for the woman the game is for the men.. We as a society have become so simple with this words thing.. sticks and stones anyone?

 

[phgreek]

I don't think bandies are necessarily "cool," but I'm not going to belittle them or anything. I remember in high school trying to watch the band from the locker room at halftime. We had a really good band my freshman and sophomore years, but my family moved to the Dayton area and the band at the new school was absolute crap. They played the same damn halftime show every game, never any different, so damn boring. They said that they were a "competition band," and they were trying to perfect their routine or some shit. Fortunately the locker room at that 2nd school was pretty far from the field, so I wasn't missing much. I actually spent more time with bandies and other athletes in high school, like tennis/track/swim people, didn't really hang out with other football jocks much...probably because I was in a lot of AP/Honors classes, very few football players were there.

There were about 10 of us that were the same as you describe...so we were in class with the band guys more than other jocks. We didn't call it AP then...just honors or advanced classes, but I assume its the same concept. I can't say I preferred one over the other because both groups attracted pretty girls, so .... The thing I recall most is learning that once you got to know someone, it was alot harder to see them as a "dork"...and I think that translates to their interests...so I never saw Band guys as weird...or the band as something to be mocked...pretty simple. For all the grief honors classes presented...comparatively speaking...I liked what I got out of it on the social front.

 

[TheSunIsRising]

I'm not a fan of getting physical in response to jerks. But this has always made me smile.

Truth is that Chris Everett could kick the shit out of Rome too, if he was calling her Jim

 

[IrishJayhawk]

There were about 10 of us that were the same as you describe...so we were in class with the band guys more than other jocks. We didn't call it AP then...just honors or advanced classes, but I assume its the same concept. I can't say I preferred one over the other because both groups attracted pretty girls, so .... The thing I recall most is learning that once you got to know someone, it was alot harder to see them as a "dork"...and I think that translates to their interests...so I never saw Band guys as weird...or the band as something to be mocked...pretty simple. For all the grief honors classes presented...comparatively speaking...I liked what I got out of it on the social front.

I think most of us realize at some point or another that stuff like that is a remnant of being an adolescent. You make fun of people who are different in order to appear superior to someone else.

 

[Irish#1]

Hey now...I supported the band and didn't envy them in their itchy outfits practicing in the heat...but I never saw any band members puke during a hot practice. I don't think any of them were used as battering rams against 300 lbs OTs either (I apparently wasn't giving enough effort on scout team against our big OT one day as a Sophomore, so our roided LB coach, former college player, grabbed me by the shoulder pads and started using me as a buffer to bum rush the OL). I never saw any band members carted off the field. My best friends in high school were mostly band members, I heard some stories...just sayin' their two-a-days weren't quite as brutal as mine.

+1.

The bands are great, and are a great extracurricular for those who don't play sports, but lets pump the breaks. I have heard that argument about it being harder than football practice and it's silly.

Who do you think would be worse off; a tuba player in the Oklahoma drill or a football player marching?

I get that they practice long hours, but there's no where near as much physical toll.

Never said they were harder. Having kids play both I can speak from a voice of experience. The band practices might not have been qiite the same physical toll as football, bit the bands two a days were three hours long each with a indoor "section practice" mixed in between. My son dropped 20lbs every summer. But if you want to compare who has harder practices, neither compare to wrestling.