Jack Arute on Sirius

[Whiskeyjack]

Kiffin has failed upwardly many times in his career already. There's no reason why Kelly couldn't do it once, especially given his record pre-ND.

 

[BeauBenken]

Only way I see it be a surprise story is if Kelly is being courted by another college, like Michigan, but if it's Michigan, I think it is just humorous.

 

[NDRock]

Wouldn't be surprised at all if Kelly bolts. It's his nature and after the frozen five stuff went down I kind of expected it. Hope not.

 

[gkIrish]

LOL that article draws from that Bernstein piece which is laughably inaccurate hot garbage? Jeez...

Being serious for a second though, I think there is reasonable chance Kelly could end up at the Bears, Giants, 49ers, or Dolphins depending on what opens. But there isn't anything to warrant even discussion right now.

FYI the Giants are probably going to give Coughlin one more year from everything I'm hearing.

 

[Luckylucci]

Wouldn't be surprised at all if Kelly bolts. It's his nature and after the frozen five stuff went down I kind of expected it. Hope not.

So this strikes me as odd. Its his nature to not want to stay at UC for the rest of his life? or its in his nature to not be content coaching GVSU? Nobody in coaching wants to be a lifer at those places. I'm not saying that he won't move on at some point but to say its in his DNA to leave a program is ridiculous.

 

[kmoose]

Just now on his show

"there will be some changes that are possibly going to be made in south bend in the college football program."

"what that means? i'm not even certain at this point."

he keeps saying that he is not trying to be first with news, but wanted to alert people to pay attention.

"it is nothing that is out of control. take a deep breath."

Then Gino Toretta says, "all that should tell us is that we won't be surprised at coaching moves before it is all said and done."

I don't know if that last part let things slip or if that's even connected to ND, but Toretta finished after Arute's statement.


Edit: after a break, he came back and let the cat out of the bag. "fine. your head coach is being courted."

"my intention is not to come across as Joe Schad." LOL

Malik Zaire announced as the starter?

 

[TK22867]

Jack Arute? Are we really paying attention to what he has to say? Good lord what has this message board come to.

 

[NDohio]

I actually think Kelly would be more successful in the NFL than what he currently is at ND. His business/Politician like approach will probably go over well at the next level. And, if he goes, he goes. Let's build on all the good that has happened over the last five years. This program was a dumpster fire when he took over.

As for Jack Arute? That was pretty horrible reporting. Get the fan base all hyped up for some breaking news and then throw this out there? Of course Kelly is being pursued - you think we aren't bright enough to expect this every year? Ridiculous...

 

[GATTACA!]

I actually think Kelly would be more successful in the NFL than what he currently is at ND. His business/Politician like approach will probably go over well at the next level. And, if he goes, he goes. Let's build on all the good that has happened over the last five years. This program was a dumpster fire when he took over.

As for Jack Arute? That was pretty horrible reporting. Get the fan base all hyped up for some breaking news and then throw this out there? Of course Kelly is being pursued - you think we aren't bright enough to expect this every year? Ridiculous...

Arute didnt say anything about Kelly leaving, that article wasn't related to him.



Or am i missing something?

 

[ozzman]

Arute didnt say anything about Kelly leaving, that article wasn't related to him.



Or am i missing something?

Today on his show he said that BK is being courted.

 

[BobbyMac]

LOL that article draws from that Bernstein piece which is laughably inaccurate hot garbage? Jeez...

Being serious for a second though, I think there is reasonable chance Kelly could end up at the Bears, Giants, 49ers, or Dolphins depending on what opens. But there isn't anything to warrant even discussion right now.

If anyone could relate to Cutler it would be BK. He's had Mini-Cutler to cut his teeth on. As a Bear fan, I'd pass on BK. I want a defense back. If they dump Trestman they better make Cowher an offer he can't refuse.

I'm a big fan of Tony's, so I hope he gets the CSU job and does well. But he's a long way down the list of coaches I'd like to see as Kelly's successor. We've twice hired guys without any HCing experience before, and both were unmitigated disasters.

Exactly.

I have a dream Kelly leaves and Coach Holtz announces on College Football Final that The Irish have give Urban Meyer a 9 year, $63M deal and Mark May immediately shoots himself on live TV. Goosebumps.

 

[scUM Hater]

The field turf didn't hold up and they are putting grass back in.

 

[Luckylucci]

A poster on BGI asked Jack on twitter if it involved Kelly and the NFL and he said yes.

 

[irishfan]

I don't want BK to leave, but I really don't think any NFL fanbase should be excited if their team hires him.

Life-long college coach who seems to be more motivator than a scheme guy. Only 8 years of coaching big-time football (if you count Cincy that with the old Big East). I don't think he's proven nearly enough for an NFL team to want him.

Again, I'd be pretty pissed if he left....but I just don't think he's an elite guy that NFL teams should be drooling over.

 

[NDohio]

Just now on his show

"there will be some changes that are possibly going to be made in south bend in the college football program."

"what that means? i'm not even certain at this point."

he keeps saying that he is not trying to be first with news, but wanted to alert people to pay attention.

"it is nothing that is out of control. take a deep breath."

Then Gino Toretta says, "all that should tell us is that we won't be surprised at coaching moves before it is all said and done."

I don't know if that last part let things slip or if that's even connected to ND, but Toretta finished after Arute's statement.


Edit: after a break, he came back and let the cat out of the bag. "fine. your head coach is being courted."

"my intention is not to come across as Joe Schad." LOL

Arute didnt say anything about Kelly leaving, that article wasn't related to him.



Or am i missing something?

See above

 

[scUM Hater]

Didn't Colin Coward also say scum was going to announce a coach this past weekend. I think it's these guys just trying to get a scoop. They can come up with these hair brained ideas so if news does happen, they can say they knew first. And anyway something always happens to our beloved Irish.

 

[IrishLion]

I don't want BK to leave, but I really don't think any NFL fanbase should be excited if their team hires him.

Life-long college coach who seems to be more motivator than a scheme guy. Only 8 years of coaching big-time football (if you count Cincy that with the old Big East). I don't think he's proven nearly enough for an NFL team to want him.

Again, I'd be pretty pissed if he left....but I just don't think he's an elite guy that NFL teams should be drooling over.

I disagree. I think he'd be great in the NFL because he IS a scheme guy. When he's got everything in place and a QB that can protect the ball (like at UC), he can put a nearly unstoppable gameplan together. For whatever reason, it hasn't all come together at ND. Some of that is on Kelly, some of that is on players, and some of that is on recruiting. In the NFL, he won't have to worry about quality of players (probably) or recruiting. He'll have to worry about motivating his players, putting a gameplan together (the scUM and FSU games showed that he can still do this with the best of them), and developing rookies (he's always been great with player development).

 

[scUM Hater]

I asked Jack Nolan on twitter if it involved suspensions for the bowl game and he told me "nope". Hell, half of you on here wanted Kelly gone anyway so you should be happy.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

A poster on BGI asked Jack on twitter if it involved Kelly and the NFL and he said yes.

Meh. At this stage of the season, no NFL team is doing anything beyond kicking tires (save Harbaugh trade scenarios).

 

[TheChosen1]

Guess what arute did today? Had a ton of listeners and clicks on his website. He also had message boards talking about him for a day and a half. Job well done.

 

[scUM Hater]

I personally would hate to see Kelly leave. If he does. ROW THE BOAT!! Bring in PJ Fleck from Western Michigan University.

 

[Irish Insanity]

I personally would hate to see Kelly leave. If he does. ROW THE BOAT!! Bring in PJ Fleck from Western Michigan University.

I live in WMU country. Everyone loves him and his catch phrase has really caught on.

 

[GoIrish41]

Seriously? Haven't you seen his offense.......it is a pass first league now.

maybe he'll draft Golson

 

[GATTACA!]

See above

Ahh missed that edit my bad

 

[TK22867]

Guess what arute did today? Had a ton of listeners and clicks on his website. He also had message boards talking about him for a day and a half. Job well done.

Arute, Arute, Arute is on fire....

 

[IrishinSyria]

I'm a big fan of Tony's, so I hope he gets the CSU job and does well. But he's a long way down the list of coaches I'd like to see as Kelly's successor. We've twice hired guys without any HCing experience before, and both were unmitigated disasters.

I don't know if I'd call Weis an unmitigated disaster. He certainly helped move the program forward. In fact, if we do lose Kelly this year, we'll be lucky to get a coach of that caliber moving forward.

 

[scUM Hater]

I live in WMU country. Everyone loves him and his catch phrase has really caught on.

I also live in southwest michigan. He is very personable and proving to be a great recruiter and developer. Just not sure if he is ready for the big time.

In all seriousness though. Kinda makes sense why Kelly hired Vangorder. Pro style defense and this year helped them work directly together for a year before heading to the NFL. I hope it's not true.

 

[PANDFAN]

I also live in southwest michigan. He is very personable and proving to be a great recruiter and developer. Just not sure if he is ready for the big time.

In all seriousness though. Kinda makes sense why Kelly hired Vangorder. Pro style defense and this year helped them work directly together for a year before heading to the NFL. I hope it's not true.

on the flip side his kid is enrolled at ND

 

[NDRock]

And what I'm saying is what coach is his position wouldn't be. How many lifetime coaches are there at those programs he's recently been at? Where did Urban start? Where did Saban start? The point is all coaches are climbers until they get to a spot that they enjoy being at. To say that coach Kelly is different or its in his nature is ridiculous because its in all coaches nature to coach at a higher level than GVSU or UC.

I'm talking about the fact he interviewed with the Eagles after his 3rd year at ND and now may be interested in the NFL again. How many coaches have left ND for "greener pastures"? Not all coaches are constantly looking for the next big thing. You think a Kelly would have stayed at TCU as long as Patterson has?

 

[irishfan]

I disagree. I think he'd be great in the NFL because he IS a scheme guy. When he's got everything in place and a QB that can protect the ball (like at UC), he can put a nearly unstoppable gameplan together. For whatever reason, it hasn't all come together at ND. Some of that is on Kelly, some of that is on players, and some of that is on recruiting. In the NFL, he won't have to worry about quality of players (probably) or recruiting. He'll have to worry about motivating his players, putting a gameplan together (the scUM and FSU games showed that he can still do this with the best of them), and developing rookies (he's always been great with player development).

I've seen him get out-coached too many times despite having so much more talent than the opposition (Navy, Tulsa, USF, Michigan, Pitt, AZ State, NW, Louisville....not to mention the amount of ugly wins we've had.....lost to Kiffin, lost to Sark in Steve's first year), for me to think he would excel in a league built on parity.

Not to sound like a pompous fan, but one of the issues with being a Pats fan is that you see a team that is coached as close to perfectly as possible on Sundays, so BK's mistakes and the team's sloppy play stands out way more than it should.