Indianapolis Colts Football

[bkess8]

Started this for general Colts discussion.

What are your thoughts on all the offseason moves?

So far we have signed OL Joe Reitz, LB Cam Johnson, S Mike Adams, S Colt Anderson, OLB DE Trent Cole, DL Kendal Langford, RB Frank Gore and WR Andre Johnson. I am impressed that we have spent the extra money we have and I think that we are only getting better. Would still like to see if we can get Greg Hardy and/or Terrance Knighton.

 

[woolybug25]

Started this for general Colts discussion.

What are your thoughts on all the offseason moves?

So far we have signed OL Joe Reitz, LB Cam Johnson, S Mike Adams, S Colt Anderson, OLB DE Trent Cole, DL Kendal Langford, RB Frank Gore and WR Andre Johnson. I am impressed that we have spent the extra money we have and I think that we are only getting better. Would still like to see if we can get Greg Hardy and/or Terrance Knighton.

Do they even have enough cap room to add both of them? The Bears are looking to add both, so they wouldn't come cheap for the Colts. The Bears have plenty of cap room and they have both played for John Fox.

 

[bkess8]

Do they even have enough cap room to add both of them? The Bears are looking to add both, so they wouldn't come cheap for the Colts. The Bears have plenty of cap room and they have both played for John Fox.

Not sure if they have money for both however one will do!

 

[irishfan]

Pats fan here, but my thoughts:

Herremans as well on the OL was a good signing. I probably would have only worried about Defense (especially front 7) and OL this off-season, but it's hard to argue with signing Johnson/Gore. I think Luck is good enough that he doesn't really need the skill guys around him, but again, you really can't go wrong signing those two guys. Not sure if they have the room for Knighton, but they should try and add Wilfork or Raji or Starks cheap if possible.

I think Indy is definitely better right now than they were 2 months ago, but I think the 11-5 record was pretty inflated by the weak schedule. You guys were 2-5 against playoff teams (in regular season of course), although the schedule is pretty favorable again this season with the NFC South crossover. It's so far out, but really looks like it will be Colts/Pats/Broncos as the Top-3 seeds again.

 

[Irish#1]

I really like the signings so far. I don't know how much Wilfork has left in the tank, but I'd take him in a 1-2 year deal. Signing Langford is going to help the D line. I'd like to see 1 or 2 more guys for the O line. Right now I give Grigson an A-.

 

[Irish2155]

I really like the signings so far. I don't know how much Wilfork has left in the tank, but I'd take him in a 1-2 year deal. Signing Langford is going to help the D line. I'd like to see 1 or 2 more guys for the O line. Right now I give Grigson an A-.

I agree...A-, maybe a B+ depending on how much Gore and Johnson have left in the tank. Regardless they can't be worse than Wayne and Richardson last year.

Another O lineman or two along with a big body on the D line would be great. Tall task taking over the reigns in the AFC from Manning and Brady but Grigson is doing all he can to put Luck in a good place.

We need to get after the passer too. A healthy Mathis will help as well.

 

[GBdomer]

Offense might be cute with those veterans but that won't stop Tom Brady and company from dropping 40 in the playoffs

 

[Irish2155]

Offense might be cute with those veterans but that won't stop Tom Brady and company from dropping 40 in the playoffs

It will if they can stop the run and get after the passer.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Offense might be cute with those veterans but that won't stop Tom Brady and company from dropping 40 in the playoffs

It absolutely will. Longer drives with less 3 and outs equal less chances for the other team.

 

[bkess8]

It absolutely will. Longer drives with less 3 and outs equal less chances for the other team.

Exactly. Frank Gore will help and also a healthy Bradshaw won't hurt either.

 

[woolybug25]

Yo... Colts be harsh, B...

INDIANAPOLIS -- Former Indianapolis Colts running back Trent Richardson, who was released Thursday, has filed a grievance against the team for voiding the $3.184 million he was to make during the 2015 season, according to a source.

Trent Richardson is looking to recoup his 2015 salary by filing a grievance against the Colts, who released him Thursday.

Richardson hopes the grievance will help him recoup some, if not all of the $3.184 million he was scheduled to make next season.

ProFootballTalk.com earlier reported that the grievance had been filed.

Language in Richardson's contract allowed the Colts to avoid paying the final year of Richardson's rookie contract because he was suspended for two games the day before the AFC Championship at New England in January. Richardson was suspended because he failed to notify the team he would be missing walk-through the day before the New England game due to his wife being in the hospital for pregnancy complications.

Richardson told ESPN.com that his phone died and that when he finally reached coach Chuck Pagano and offered to fly out to New England on his own or rush to meet the team plane, he was told don't worry about it by Pagano.

"Nothing would stop me from going to work other than my kids," Richardson said Thursday. "With that, I told Coach the situation. I said I could fly in or try to make the flight. He told me, 'We weren't going to dress you anyway.'"

Trent Richardson files grievance against Indianapolis Colts - ESPN

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Augustus Gloop wants all the chocolate.

Poor trent, he has such a rough life.

 

[NDBoiler]

Started this for general Colts discussion.

What are your thoughts on all the offseason moves?

So far we have signed OL Joe Reitz, LB Cam Johnson, S Mike Adams, S Colt Anderson, OLB DE Trent Cole, DL Kendal Langford, RB Frank Gore and WR Andre Johnson. I am impressed that we have spent the extra money we have and I think that we are only getting better. Would still like to see if we can get Greg Hardy and/or Terrance Knighton.

I am not enamored with Gore and Johnson like most Colts fans seem to be. Too old, not as much left in the tank. Would've preferred going with younger guys on the rise and still need major help on D.

 

[connor_in]

I am not enamored with Gore and Johnson like most Colts fans seem to be. Too old, not as much left in the tank. Would've preferred going with younger guys on the rise and still need major help on D.

I think they thought they were close last year and are bringing in some guys to make a run this year. You are right about not much left in the tank, but maybe one or two years of decent production with a good team.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

There's the Pats, Seahawks, and Packers. Everyone else (minus the really shitty teams) is kind of lumped together, and either has a fatal flaw, or is missing that "it" factor. No top tier team has a stranglehold on the league either. The NFL has NEVER been more wide open. (This is all IMO)

The Colts have proven they can play with anybody, and Luck is good for one poo poo platter in the playoffs. If he makes the next step this year (which I think he will), coupled with 6 guaranteed games against bottom feeding teams, they could very well make the SB.

With that said, I truly hate the Colts. Always have, and even more so since moving here. My opinion is about as biased against them as they come, but their future looks good, if not great.....

 

[irishfan]

There's the Pats, Seahawks, and Packers. Everyone else (minus the really shitty teams) is kind of lumped together, and either has a fatal flaw, or is missing that "it" factor. No top tier team has a stranglehold on the league either. The NFL has NEVER been more wide open. (This is all IMO)

The Colts have proven they can play with anybody, and Luck is good for one poo poo platter in the playoffs. If he makes the next step this year (which I think he will), coupled with 6 guaranteed games against bottom feeding teams, they could very well make the SB.

With that said, I truly hate the Colts. Always have, and even more so since moving here. My opinion is about as biased against them as they come, but their future looks good, if not great.....

Well. Except for a certain team in New England.

 

[NDBoiler]

I think they thought they were close last year and are bringing in some guys to make a run this year. You are right about not much left in the tank, but maybe one or two years of decent production with a good team.

Well. Except for a certain team in New England.

At this point I don't see how their defense is any better than last year, which to me means they're not getting past the conf championship. I think last year was rather lucky that they did anyways, since Payton sucked so bad.

 

[bkess8]

Pulled off a big win today with Hasselbeck at QB!

 

[ndcoltsfan2010]

Pulled off a big win today with Hasselbeck at QB!

Very much needed win. Hasselback has now won three of our five games this year. Thank God for him.

 

[Irish#1]

MFH......

Colts started slow again, but got it going in the second half Defense is coming around. Let's hope Davis's hammy isn't too bad.

 

[Irish YJ]

Had great seats but ended flying down to Vanderbilt Beach for the week. Gave my tix to one of my employees who is also a huge Falcons fan. Can't wait to see him next week lol and talk a little smack.... OL situation still have me SMDH. Veteran QB play from Hassleback. Love that guy.

 

[bkess8]

Thought I would bump this thread up with a couple of questions:

1. If/when we fire Pagano does Grigson have to go also?

2. Who realisticly replaces one or both of them? I know many people say Harbaugh but other than him who do you think is a possibility?

3. I have been reading a lot lately that Luck might come back before he is 100% ready. I hope they don't rush him back just for us to maybe limp into the playoffs and get beat in the wild card round. Thoughts?

 

[zelezo vlk]

Grigson should go before Pagano. Announce his firing first. What he's done to the Colts has been far more egregious.

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[FearTheBeard]

I think Grigson has to go too. I honestly dont know who would replace Pagano. As said Harbaugh is a good choice but i seriously doubt thats a possibility. It'd be nice to find someone who has had some level of success at the NFL level.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

Thought I would bump this thread up with a couple of questions:

1. If/when we fire Pagano does Grigson have to go also?

2. Who realisticly replaces one or both of them? I know many people say Harbaugh but other than him who do you think is a possibility?

3. I have been reading a lot lately that Luck might come back before he is 100% ready. I hope they don't rush him back just for us to maybe limp into the playoffs and get beat in the wild card round. Thoughts?

Clean house because they are wasting a franchise QB.

Don't bring luck back this year. Let him completely heal and start cutting the fat by offloading bad contracts in the offseason. Hire someone who has a track record of drafting wisely, then draft boatloads of OL and defensive personnel.

If the Colts play it right, they can be a serious contender in two years and they can maintain that for another 7-8. They have the QB, the lynchpin of it all, now they need people who know how to run a program.

oh and fire the owner, or at least distance him from the team. He's trash.

 

[FearTheBeard]

Clean house because they are wasting a franchise QB.

Don't bring luck back this year. Let him completely heal and start cutting the fat by offloading bad contracts in the offseason. Hire someone who has a track record of drafting wisely, then draft boatloads of OL and defensive personnel.

If the Colts play it right, they can be a serious contender in two years and they can maintain that for another 7-8. They have the QB, the lynchpin of it all, now they need people who know how to run a program.

oh and fire the owner, or at least distance him from the team. He's trash.

I agree with all of this. Especially the bolded. Do not chance Luck this year, the team is going nowhere in the playoffs. Let him get healthy and find a GM and coach who can get the right pieces. Luck is good enough that if protected and used in the right system the team can really go somewhere. Just need some defense and linemen who can protect him

 

[Irish#1]

oh and fire the owner, or at least distance him from the team. He's trash.

Irsay has his demons no doubt, but as an owner he's as good as any of them. He lets his GM be the GM. He only gets involved when it comes to approving the biggies like Manning and Luck.

Grigson definitely needs to go. There had to be some conflict between him and Pagano for a while. Otherwise, why take a proven leader and only offer a one year extension? Pagano saw the offer as a slap in the face. Rumor is Grigson also didn't like Pagano telling him what he needed in the draft (mainly O & D linemen). Grigson went the Bill Polian route and drafted more receivers.

I was for firing Grigson and keeping Pagano, but after the last couple of games and the excuses Pagano gave after the last game, I think he needs to go as well.

I heard they will bring back Luck if there is still a chance to make the playoffs. I would rest him and miss the playoffs to improve the drafting position.

 

[bkess8]

Irsay has his demons no doubt, but as an owner he's as good as any of them. He lets his GM be the GM. He only gets involved when it comes to approving the biggies like Manning and Luck.

Grigson definitely needs to go. There had to be some conflict between him and Pagano for a while. Otherwise, why take a proven leader and only offer a one year extension? Pagano saw the offer as a slap in the face. Rumor is Grigson also didn't like Pagano telling him what he needed in the draft (mainly O & D linemen). Grigson went the Bill Polian route and drafted more receivers.

Couldn't agree with this more. Yes Irsay is an idiot for making bad personal decisions in his life but as far as ownership goes he has done great things in Indy.

I am currently looking at potential candidates for the HC and GM positions, I will post them as soon as the list is complied.

 

[bkess8]

HC Candidates:

Adam Gase (OC Chicago Bears)

Hue Jackson (OC Cincinnati Bengals)

Jim Schwartz (League Offices)

Josh McDaniels (OC New England Patriots)

Kyle Shanahan (OC Atlanta Falcons)

Teryl Austin (DC Detroit Lions)

Sean McDermott (DC Carolina Panthers)

Jim Harbaugh (HC Michigan)

David Shaw (HC Stanford)

GM Candidates:

Eliot Wolf, director of pro personnel, Green Bay Packers

Nick Caserio, director of player personnel, New England Patriots

Terry McDonough, vice president of player personnel, Arizona Cardinals

Scot McCloughan, consultant

Jeff Ireland, consultant

Mark Dominik, ESPN analyst

These are the most interesting names I found on various lists on the net. I find it interesting that Eliot Wolf is in such high demand and he is only 32 years old so I understand the risk of bringing in someone so young. For the HC position it would be nice to give someone like Gase or McDermott a chance IMO but I'm not sure you want to do that and waste prime years of Luck's career taking a chance.

 

[Irish#1]

McDaniels and Shanahan don't excite em at all. Several months back when this Pagano/Grigson thing started to percolate, there was a mention of Irsay going after Dungy again. Don't know how much merit that has but that would be a home run as long as we didn't run the Tampa 2 D.