High-School Senior Controversial WSJ Article

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Real classy. I'm writing that one down.



So much nonsense in one paragraph. My parents barely speak English and make less combined than the tuition at Notre Dame. I come from the most violent city in New York. Why can't I go to certain job fairs or access certain job boards? I guarantee my life has been as hard as the beneficiaries of AA. And save the "I'm white and have a job, you must not be working hard enough."

Because your taste in sports teams is atrocious at best... ;) I don't mean to make light of the struggle you are/have facing/faced. As my students say to me all the time, "The struggle is real out here." It doesn't discriminate.
 

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Because your taste in sports teams is atrocious at best... ;) I don't mean to make light of the struggle you are/have facing/faced. As my students say to me all the time, "The struggle is real out here." It doesn't discriminate.


I hear that. I wish there was a way for all of us, black or white, rich or poor, male or female, to get jobs and go to the best schools. I simply want the people who are smartest and work hardest to have an equal chance. I don't think anything but what's in your brain and what's in your heart(effort) should be a factor.
 
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I hear that. I wish there was a way for all of us, black or white, rich or poor, male or female, to get jobs and go to the best schools. I simply want the people who are smartest and work hardest to have an equal chance. I don't think anything but what's in your brain and what's in your heart(effort) should be a factor.

Respect.
 

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I hear that. I wish there was a way for all of us, black or white, rich or poor, male or female, to get jobs and go to the best schools. I simply want the people who are smartest and work hardest to have an equal chance. I don't think any other factor than what's in your brain and what's in your heart(effort) should be a factor.

I feel you on that...Totally unrelated, on the other end of the spectrum of all this, I got pulled over months ago for what I feel was DWB (aka bullsh*t) and the cop had me out of the car to check it. The following conversation ensues upon him coming back to do a 2nd search of my car:

Cop: (With smirk) "Saw the license plate frame, what..did you go there?"
Me: "Yes sir"
Cop: "Hmmm...what sport did you play?"
Me: "Didn't play a sport, got an academic scholarship.."
Cop: (chuckles) "Oh did you now?"

I bolded the above line portion to tell how much it pisses me off that that's the first question I seemed to get asked everytime before, during, and after my time at ND when I tell people where I went to school. It is as if in people's minds (majority of them being white in this case) that that was my ticket into getting into the university as prestigious as ND and not because I rocked the f*ck out of my classes during high school. Ok, I'm done.
 

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I feel you on that...Totally unrelated, on the other end of the spectrum of all this, I got pulled over months ago for what I feel was DWB (aka bullsh*t) and the cop had me out of the car to check it. The following conversation ensues upon him coming back to do a 2nd search of my car:

Cop: (With smirk) "Saw the license plate frame, what..did you go there?"
Me: "Yes sir"
Cop: "Hmmm...what sport did you play?"
Me: "Didn't play a sport, got an academic scholarship.."
Cop: (chuckles) "Oh did you now?"

I bolded the above line portion to tell how much it pisses me off that that's the first question I seemed to get asked everytime before, during, and after my time at ND when I tell people where I went to school. It is as if in people's minds (majority of them being white in this case) that that was my ticket into getting into the university as prestigious as ND and not because I rocked the f*ck out of my classes during high school. Ok, I'm done.

That would **** me off too. Sorry that happened to you.
 

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This is the entire thing to me, right here. White people getting mad when other people get opportunities is like being mad that handicapped people get all the good parking spots. Nobody is conspiring to hold you back, white people. There are plenty of opportunities out there for you, so don't worry your pretty little heads. If you want the best opportunities, earn it. When you can't get into Harvard because they stop accepting white people altogether, then maybe I'll find some sympathy for you.

(To clarify, I am white. Somehow I managed to get into college, too.)

I wrote something very long in response to this, but this comment seriously pissed me off. Why can't different races of people just be PEOPLE. It's freaking 2013. Why do white people have to "earn it" and it can be handed to someone else based on their skin color? Affirmative action should not be reverse discrimination, that's the entire point.

Do you even understand how hard it is to "earn it" when you're a top tier student? I can't even imagine what people that got into an Ivy did to make it if what I did was not good enough. I filled up nearly an entire page with extra curriculars I had over four years, that's in addition to nearly perfect test scores, being the first kid in my family to go to college and my hobby of auto-crossing on the weekends.

If anything, this practice belittles those that do make it because everyone assumes that's why they're there, a quota. I have personal examples of people that went somewhere without the grades but won't bring them up.
 

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That would **** me off too. Sorry that happened to you.

Thanks, but I'm not sorry for it...People are going to be ignorant and have their judgments and there isn't a single thing you can do about it. Swallow it, let it motivate you to do something great and wave at them in the rear view mirror of life
 

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I hear that. I wish there was a way for all of us, black or white, rich or poor, male or female, to get jobs and go to the best schools. I simply want the people who are smartest and work hardest to have an equal chance. I don't think anything but what's in your brain and what's in your heart(effort) should be a factor.

OK, we are totally in agreement here. I just don't see where the smartest and hardest working white people are getting screwed. It is the moderately smart and somewhat hard working people that might get passed over in the name of diversity, and in my opinion diversity as an end is important enough to justify that. If people don't want to get passed over, do better.
 

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Some take it too far, but really political correctness is simple civility. Why would anyone want to say anything in such a way that alienates someone else? People can say it straight without being offensive.

Yet somehow the left has been annointed as the ones who determine what is "civil" and what is "offensive." Disagreeing with Obama's policies = racism. Calling Tea Party candidates "tea baggers" = acceptabble. I could list dozens of examples.

You label people on here without knowing them and accuse them of being racist and sexist with no grounds whatsoever, then yesteday you pulled your "God forbid some white girl didn't get into an Ivy Leage school." Stay classy.

"White liberals are the most racist people there are, because they put blacks in a box and insist that they think one way---and if they don't, they attack them as illegitimate, all the while denying that their policies destroy blacks." --- Dr. Ben Carson
 

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As a person of color I'm kind of tired hearing whiny crap like this from middle class and of well to do white teenagers. I've been hearing it my whole life. It kind of reminds me of the scene in Borat where the drunk college dudes let it all hangout and come to the conclusion that "minorities" have it easy.

That's painting with a really large brush. This thread started with college admissions. It's undeniable that right now in America minorities do have advantages over some white kids when everything else on paper is even.

BTW...when my suburban Catholic high school played the inner city public schools in basketball and football in high school, I was called white trash. On a regular basis. If I were raised in a w PC, sensitive household I would've whined all day at the time. Instead, I used it as motivation and made sure I wouldn't lose.
 

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Slavery was as much an assault on the family unit as it was a labor source. Hard to put Humpty Dumpty together again, maybe AA isn't a direct way to address what you see as the crux of the issue but I'd give it more than 1 or 2 generations.

Look back at children born outside of marriage since about 1960.The growth is alarming and it really isn't just a black white issue. The statistics clearly show that children born into a singlel parent housleholds are less likely to build wealth than those who are born into a married home. It just so happens that the number of single parent homes is far greater for blacks than it is whites, tho it tends to occur at higher rates for lower income people. This is a newer issue and is combating the benefits that AA is supposed to be delivering. If we really want to help people, we need to get away from race based ideas and figure out a way to make sure people understand the harm they are doing to their children when the abandon the traditional family structure.
 

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Yet somehow the left has been annointed as the ones who determine what is "civil" and what is "offensive." Disagreeing with Obama's policies = racism. Calling Tea Party candidates "tea baggers" = acceptabble. I could list dozens of examples.

You label people on here without knowing them and accuse them of being racist and sexist with no grounds whatsoever, then yesteday you pulled your "God forbid some white girl didn't get into an Ivy Leage school." Stay classy.

"White liberals are the most racist people there are, because they put blacks in a box and insist that they think one way---and if they don't, they attack them as illegitimate, all the while denying that their policies destroy blacks." --- Dr. Ben Carson

This post is nonsensical. It doesn't have anything to do with party affiliation. Read back through the last page of this thread and you will find several people who speak of being offended by not only the article we are talking about, but by how many people generally use affirmative action as an excuse as to why they didn't measure up in some way. The "God forbid ..." statement was talking specifically about the girl who wrote this whiny, pathetic article about how the whole world conspired against her gettiing into the college she wanted to go to, and she systematically pointed to all of these "reasons" as an excuse for her own shortcomings.
 

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This post is nonsensical. It doesn't have anything to do with party affiliation. Read back through the last page of this thread and you will find several people who speak of being offended by not only the article we are talking about, but by how many people generally use affirmative action as an excuse as to why they didn't measure up in some way. The "God forbid ..." statement was talking specifically about the girl who wrote this whiny, pathetic article about how the whole world conspired against her gettiing into the college she wanted to go to, and she systematically pointed to all of these "reasons" as an excuse for her own shortcomings.

Nonsensical...hahaha ok. I specifically noted that I don't know what her grades, transcripts, etc. look like but I can guarantee 100% that colleges reject qualified white kids every day and accept minorities with the same academic records or worse to fill quotas. She could have a 3.7 or a 2.4 GPA...I don't know. I didn't comment on her particular case. I was talking big picture.

You have no right or room to talk about her shortcomings because you don't have any information about her or the schools she applied to, even though you convinced yourself it was an Ivy League school and she has nothing but C's on her transcripts.
 

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Nonsensical...hahaha ok. I specifically noted that I don't know what her grades, transcripts, etc. look like but I can guarantee 100% that colleges reject qualified white kids every day and accept minorities with the same academic records or worse to fill quotas. She could have a 3.7 or a 2.4 GPA...I don't know. I didn't comment on her particular case. I was talking big picture.

You have no right or room to talk about her shortcomings because you don't have any information about her or the schools she applied to, even though you convinced yourself it was an Ivy League school and she has nothing but C's on her transcripts.

This girl's spiteful little rant helped me learn all I needed to know about her. I learned that she is immature, confrontational, and makes excuses for her own failures, up to and including throwing her own parents under the bus in a national publicatiion. I also learned that multiple schools rejected her, so her failure to get into the school she wanted was not a fluke. If I worked in admissions, I wouldn't accept her either. In her article, I think she makes it pretty clear that she didn't do what it takes to get into her dream school (whether it was an Ivy or not), and that she knew all along she wasn't doing what was required to get what she wants. Heck, she even seemed to look down on those who did. I don't have room to talk about her shortcomings? She invited people into her shortcomings with this childish article. I simply accepted her invitation.

After all the times you have lectured me and others about the disgust you have for those who feel entitled, I thought you of all people would join me in pointing to her entitled attitude and calling what it is. I guess not. I guess it is as I have long suspected with you -- you just want to argue. You can't even avoid it on instances when someone agrees with your ongoing theme of rugged individualism. Your post was nonsensical because you tried to make it about liberals and conservatives, when it has absolutely nothing to do with that.
 
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This is the entire thing to me, right here. White people getting mad when other people get opportunities is like being mad that handicapped people get all the good parking spots. Nobody is conspiring to hold you back, white people. There are plenty of opportunities out there for you, so don't worry your pretty little heads. If you want the best opportunities, earn it. When you can't get into Harvard because they stop accepting white people altogether, then maybe I'll find some sympathy for you.

(To clarify, I am white. Somehow I managed to get into college, too.)

thank you.

Inequality has always been organized by categories, mainly b/c it's easier to organize coalitions and distribute resources when individuals are clearly marked into groups. the relevant categories shift, but the pattern has always been the same.

Race has become less relevant as a category than it was in the 1950s, but it is still enormously important in America. This categorical inequality works in favor of whites relative to nonwhites in almost every way, from childhood to adulthood. It is not perfect - meaning there are some black and hispanic kids who are extremely advantaged, and lots of poor disadvantaged whites. But it works at a system-level - systems like the schools, the criminal justice system, and the labor market consistently act to put whites in advantaged positions relative to blacks thru networks, resources, opportunities, and sanctions.

In recognition of this, we have implemented small-scale, often superficial policies that attempt to mitigate the pattern of systematic disadvantage experienced by nonwhites (I'm being general here, as the circumstance of different groups and their histories in the US are entirely different). Aff action is an example of such an attempt. It is not perfectly efficient, and there are lots of examples of people getting an edge who don't need it, and people who deserve an edge but don't get it. But categorical inequality or policy is never perfectly efficient.

There are two bases for opposing it. One is to deny that blacks or hispanics are at a disadvantage relative to whites in a wide range of systems in our society. To those making this argument I would just suggest that you read more. I didn't fully get how this works until I started reading a tremendous amount of rigorous research on it. Approach the research with an open mind.
The second basis for opposing it is that it is not a great system to counteract persistent categorical inequalities. I have more sympathy for this argument. It is not efficient at all, it leads to cases of individuals who haven't been disadvantaged getting a boost in the admissions or hiring process, and it leads to some very deserving people getting skipped over for reasons that, on a surface level, seem seriously unfair.

For those who oppose this particular mechanism of mitigating categorical inequality, a serious question: What should replace it? i.e. if we acknowledge that inequality is typically organized along categories, and we acknowledge that race remains an independent and important category, then what system-level changes would you make to mitigate race-based inequality?
 
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This girl's spiteful little rant helped me learn all I needed to know about her. I learned that she is immature, confrontational, and makes excuses for her own failures, up to and including throwing her own parents under the bus in a national publicatiion. I also learned that multiple schools rejected her, so her failure to get into the school she wanted was not a fluke. If I worked in admissions, I wouldn't accept her either. In her article, I think she makes it pretty clear that she didn't do what it takes to get into her dream school (whether it was an Ivy or not), and that she knew all along she wasn't doing what was required to get what she wants. Heck, she even seemed to look down on those who did. I don't have room to talk about her shortcomings? She invited people into her shortcomings with this childish article. I simply accepted her invitation.

After all the times you have lectured me and others about the disgust you have for those who feel entitled, I thought you of all people would join me in pointing to her entitled attitude and calling what it is. I guess not. I guess it is as I have long suspected with you -- you just want to argue. You can't even avoid it on instances when someone agrees with your ongoing theme of rugged individualism. Your post was nonsensical because you tried to make it about liberals and conservatives, when it has absolutely nothing to do with that.

You're asssuming way too much without any knowledge of her academic case. As for this particular girl, she'll figure $hit out eventually and hopefully will grow out the bit of entitlement she has.
 

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"Equal" does not mean "the same." The founding fathers meant that all men are created equal in the eyes of the law i.e. that the government should treat no man differently from another. They did not mean that all men are created with the same abilities and skills as one another. Arguing that all men have the same amount of natural ability is just wrong. Case in point: myself vs. LeBron James.

Thank you. He doens't get it
 

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You're asssuming way too much without any knowledge of her academic case. As for this particular girl, she'll figure $hit out eventually and hopefully will grow out the bit of entitlement she has.

I have a friend whose daughter is dating this guy with dreds, multiple tats, and general scruffy appearance. He told me about a conversation he had with the guy a few months back. The guy confronted my friend about why he didn't want him dating his daughter. He asked him if it was the tats, piercings, dreds, etc., and qualified that with "because if you can't accept him for how he is, he has a problem."

My friend calmly (far more calmly than I would be when confronted by a guy dating my daughter) said to the guy. "Look, I understand that your outward appearance is the statement you want to make about yourself. I do the same when I wear a suit and tie to work and get my hair cut short. I get that. I want you to know that I'm giving you the benefit of accepting the message that you are trying to convey. What that message says about you, I do not like. And that is why I don't want you dating my daughter."

Now, that guy may have been a genius. He may have owned his own company (doubtful) and been a real standup guy. But, the message he was putting out to the world ... the impression he was purposly trying to convey ... was not a positive one (at least to my friend). The moral of the story is that when you invite people to make judgments about you, you should not be surprised when those judgements are not what you would like them to be. That is what this girl did. You go ahead and give her the benefit of the doubt about the possiblity that she has good grades. I have more respect for her than that. I am considering all the information that she wants me to know, and I'm making my assessment on those things she felt were the most important ... those things that she put out in a nationwide publication for everyone to see. She may have wanted people to agree that all those negative things in her life (affirmative action, her parents, the fact that she didn't pursue extracurricular activities in favor of working in a pizza shop) were the reasons she was apathetic in her approach to college. If I would agree with her, would you also be saying I'm assuming too much? Because I'm not assuming anything. I'm taking the information she provided and making an assessment ... just as she was asking me and all the other readers to do when she published that article.
 

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This is the entire thing to me, right here. White people getting mad when other people get opportunities is like being mad that handicapped people get all the good parking spots. Nobody is conspiring to hold you back, white people. There are plenty of opportunities out there for you, so don't worry your pretty little heads. If you want the best opportunities, earn it. When you can't get into Harvard because they stop accepting white people altogether, then maybe I'll find some sympathy for you.

(To clarify, I am white. Somehow I managed to get into college, too.)

Quit with the "self-hating" crap. You're the worst kind of "white people". The ones that try to "identify" with minorities by bashing his own race using phrases like "I know what you're going through". You, nor I, couldn't possibly know what a black man has gone through. Or hispanic. Or whatever...So cut the act.

And saying that "white people" have nothing to complain about is ignorant. How do you know what people have gone through? Just because someone doesn't have the same struggles, doesn't mean they don't struggle. It's just different.

For example....a buddy of mine, middle class white guy, lost BOTH his parents in a car accident his senior year in high school. Then, his sister killed herself 1 month later. He had NO ONE to help him through that tough time in his life(other than his buddies).....Despite all that, he graduated from college. Now, I think that would qualify as something to complain about. However...not ONE peep outta him about the obvious disadvantage.


The point is, everyone has struggles and problems. Some worse than others. Everyone deals with adversity. It's how you react that is going to set you apart. You can use it as a crutch or motivation. Opportunity is everywhere, for all races. The only thing holding people back is their own attitudes. And that includes this young lady. Not getting into your first choice of college isn't the end of the world. But, to her credit, she used it as motivation to write this column and get noticed.
 
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I have a friend whose daughter is dating this guy with dreds, multiple tats, and general scruffy appearance. He told me about a conversation he had with the guy a few months back. The guy confronted my friend about why he didn't want him dating his daughter. He asked him if it was the tats, piercings, dreds, etc., and qualified that with "because if you can't accept him for how he is, he has a problem."

My friend calmly (far more calmly than I would be when confronted by a guy dating my daughter) said to the guy. "Look, I understand that your outward appearance is the statement you want to make about yourself. I do the same when I wear a suit and tie to work and get my hair cut short. I get that. I want you to know that I'm giving you the benefit of accepting the message that you are trying to convey. What that message says about you, I do not like. And that is why I don't want you dating my daughter."

Now, that guy may have been a genius. He may have owned his own company (doubtful) and been a real standup guy. But, the message he was putting out to the world ... the impression he was purposly trying to convey ... was not a positive one (at least to my friend). The moral of the story is that when you invite people to make judgments about you, you should not be surprised when those judgements are not what you would like them to be. That is what this girl did. You go ahead and give her the benefit of the doubt about the possiblity that she has good grades. I have more respect for her than that. I am considering all the information that she wants me to know, and I'm making my assessment on those things she felt were the most important ... those things that she put out in a nationwide publication for everyone to see. She may have wanted people to agree that all those negative things in her life (affirmative action, her parents, the fact that she didn't pursue extracurricular activities in favor of working in a pizza shop) were the reasons she was apathetic in her approach to college. If I would agree with her, would you also be saying I'm assuming too much? Because I'm not assuming anything. I'm taking the information she provided and making an assessment ... just as she was asking me and all the other readers to do when she published that article.

You said she didn't work hard enough and didn't get good enough grades to get into those schools, so yes you are assuming a lot you don't know. And I still don't know where you pulled the Ivy League schools from. You made it up for your narrative.

I said now 3 times, even though you think I'm giving her benefit of the doubt, that I don't know if she was 3.7 student or a 2.4. I don't know! My entire point was based on what many colleges do in admissions, not her individual case.
 

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The point is, everyone has struggles and problems. Some worse than others. Everyone deals with adversity. It's how you react that is going to set you apart. You can use it as a crutch or motivation. Opportunity is everywhere, for all races. The only thing holding people back is their own attitudes.

This should be the response to the OP. Her reaction to being denied was to lash out and blame everyone but herself. Instead everyone loved what she said and she's some sort of hero for not being PC. Then this turned into a race/ethnicity/diversity debate. When the reality is she is learning to deal with adversity... And has proven she's got a lot to learn.
 

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Quit with the "self-hating" crap. You're the worst kind of "white people". The ones that try to "identify" with minorities by bashing his own race using phrases like "I know what you're going through". You, nor I, couldn't possibly know what a black man has gone through. Or hispanic. Or whatever...So cut the act.

And saying that "white people" have nothing to complain about is ignorant. How do you know what people have gone through? Just because someone doesn't have the same struggles, doesn't mean they don't struggle. It's just different.

For example....a buddy of mine, middle class white guy, lost BOTH his parents in a car accident his senior year in high school. Then, his sister killed herself 1 month later. He had NO ONE to help him through that tough time in his life(other than his buddies).....Despite all that, he graduated from college. Now, I think that would qualify as something to complain about. However...not ONE peep outta him about the obvious disadvantage.


The point is, everyone has struggles and problems. Some worse than others. Everyone deals with adversity. It's how you react that is going to set you apart. You can use it as a crutch or motivation. Opportunity is everywhere, for all races. The only thing holding people back is their own attitudes. And that includes this young lady. Not getting into your first choice of college isn't the end of the world. But, to her credit, she used it as motivation to write this column and get noticed.

Boom.
 

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You said she didn't work hard enough and didn't get good enough grades to get into those schools, so yes you are assuming a lot you don't know. And I still don't know where you pulled the Ivy League schools from. You made it up for your narrative.

I said now 3 times, even though you think I'm giving her benefit of the doubt, that I don't know if she was 3.7 student or a 2.4. I don't know! My entire point was based on what many colleges do in admissions, not her individual case.

No, SHE said that. I conceded early on that admissions offices do this and that I think AA is appropriate. Maybe her dream school was Tulsa and not an Ivy, it doesn't matter because apparently there were several school admissions offices who agreed with me (and her) that she didn't work hard enough to get into the schools she applied to. As I said, if she thought the grade thing was important, she would have mentioned it in her article. And, really it just doesn't matter. As I said, I learned all I needed to know about her from her article that was clearly weighted with information she thought was in her favor.
 

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This should be the response to the OP. Her reaction to being denied was to lash out and blame everyone but herself. Instead everyone loved what she said and she's some sort of hero for not being PC. Then this turned into a race/ethnicity/diversity debate. When the reality is she is learning to deal with adversity... And has proven she's got a lot to learn.

this
 

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This should be the response to the OP. Her reaction to being denied was to lash out and blame everyone but herself. Instead everyone loved what she said and she's some sort of hero for not being PC. Then this turned into a race/ethnicity/diversity debate. When the reality is she is learning to deal with adversity... And has proven she's got a lot to learn.

Great post. Don't understand all the love this girl is getting from the personal responsibility crowd. She seems like a normal girl who expected exceptional results.
 

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Opportunity is everywhere, for all races. The only thing holding people back is their own attitudes. And that includes this young lady. Not getting into your first choice of college isn't the end of the world. But, to her credit, she used it as motivation to write this column and get noticed.

Beautiful example here. Opportunity was here for this person b/c her sister was an editor at WSJ. She did nothing to distinguish herself throughout her life, by her own admission, and then drew on her contacts to get an article published in the WSJ. This is how systems of inequality work. And then people give her credit about her accomplishment, without understanding how her accomplishment was possible b/c of her advantaged position.

Some opportunity is available for everyone. But opportunities are constrained for some groups, enhanced for others. There's not much point in continuing with the debate if this basic point is denied, even when we have crystal clear evidence of it in the article itself.
 

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This should be the response to the OP. Her reaction to being denied was to lash out and blame everyone but herself. Instead everyone loved what she said and she's some sort of hero for not being PC. Then this turned into a race/ethnicity/diversity debate. When the reality is she is learning to deal with adversity... And has proven she's got a lot to learn.

Thanks. This goes back to one of my firsts posts in this thread. Kids today are being sheltered from disappointment. Competition is removed to make sure not to offend / disappoint those who didn't win or didn't make honor roll. Truth is, we set our kids up for huge disappointment when they realize the world is competitive. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. But that lesson isn't being taught until the idea of "I deserve this" is completely embedded into each kid's mind. Eventually the day comes when they realize I am not good enough and they lash out. It's sad.
 
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Total sour grapes. This was more of a confession than an illuminating article. Tough **** girl... and this is coming from me. There are tons of more educated, harder working, foreign born people getting into the better US schools and that rate is increasing every year.

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I guarantee you there are at least 3 doctoral candidates from a USA university in this class.
 

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This, gentlemen, is the problem with America and the youth:

School Cancels Honors Night to Avoid Hurt Feelings




Kids don't know HOW to deal with adversity because they're sheltered from it by the PC crowd.

Everyone is not created equal and there are winners and losers. When we can accept that FACT and use it as a tool to motivate, then we'll be better off.
 
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Cackalacky

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This, gentlemen, is the problem with America and the youth:

School Cancels Honors Night to Avoid Hurt Feelings




Kids don't know HOW to deal with adversity because they're sheltered from it by the PC crowd.

Everyone is not created equal and there are winners and losers. When we can accept that FACT and use it as a tool to motivate, then we'll be better off.

I would say that is part of the problem. Another part is that kids don't care about learning, the importance of education is downplayed more and more, and kids have no initiative to learn and or be productive. Its a general apathy of being a human in a global society. "Everything I need to know is on the internet or tv." She pretty much says all of this in her letter. Even to the point of her parents not giving a crap about her lifestyle.
 
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