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irishtrain said:
Just drop Navy from the schedule if all this is true then its a perfect excuse to do it.
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What are the grounds they would petition on? It's one thing to get out of your obligation to the Academy but why should he not have to sit out like everyone else?
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From the same article I linked above:

Mikes guess is it revolves around Navy no longer allowing players to defer service if they get drafted to a pro team.
 
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NDCrusader said:
What are the grounds they would petition on? It's one thing to get out of your obligation to the Academy but why should he not have to sit out like everyone else?
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Athletes petition all the time. Most are denied anyway, unless you have a sick grandmother. I wonder if she ever got any better?
 
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NDCrusader said:
What are the grounds they would petition on? It's one thing to get out of your obligation to the Academy but why should he not have to sit out like everyone else?
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Because we will throw a temper tantrum if the NCAA doesn't grant the waiver.

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NDCrusader said:
What are the grounds they would petition on? It's one thing to get out of your obligation to the Academy but why should he not have to sit out like everyone else?
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Mike says it would likely be on the grounds that Navy sold him on being able to defer his service if the NFL became a possibility and now has recently changed that rule.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What do you call it when a 🏈Hall of Famer & Super Bowl champ stops by?<br><br>At ND we call it a Thursday.<br><br>Great to have RB Jerome Bettis back! <a href="https://t.co/M8b6hG6pKa">pic.twitter.com/M8b6hG6pKa</a></p>— Notre Dame Football (@NDFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDFootball/status/872958074742607873">June 8, 2017</a></blockquote>
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During the spring it was rumored that Stepherson was having academic issues or was in Kelly's doghouse. Does anyone know if he is good? Does it come down to the summer session? For that matter anyone else on the bubble?
 
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During the spring it was rumored that Stepherson was having academic issues or was in Kelly's doghouse. Does anyone know if he is good? Does it come down to the summer session? For that matter anyone else on the bubble?
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He's 3rd string, barely played in the spring game, and we took in 2 WR transfers this year. The writing is on the wall and leaking through to the other side, IMO.
 
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During the spring it was rumored that Stepherson was having academic issues or was in Kelly's doghouse. Does anyone know if he is good? Does it come down to the summer session? For that matter anyone else on the bubble?
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BK stated today that there wasn't going to be anymore roster changes...so i am guessing he is good to go...also means McGovern isn't coming back either
 
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Brian Kelly content with off-season roster adds

Brian Kelly likes the look of his roster after some summer shuffling, including wide out Cameron Smith and safety Alohi Gilman. Kelly hopes to have Gilman available this year.

BRIDGMAN, Mich. – The off-season for Brian Kelly is never really off.

On Saturday night, Notre Dame staged Irish Invasion, which drew prospects from coast to coast. A day later the football program teamed with local law enforcement at Four Winds Field for a charity softball game. Today, Kelly put on his annual golf outing for the Kelly Cares foundation, which raises money for the fight against breast cancer. And tomorrow, Notre Dame will stage Football 101, which raises resources for that same battle.
Also, Kelly has a football program to run and a roster to manage.

And Kelly has had plenty of management in the past couple weeks, seeing three transfers out (Tristen Hoge, Josh Barajas, Parker Boudreaux), a medical disqualification (Tyler Luatua), a graduate transfer in (Cameron Smith) and a traditional transfer addition (Alohi Gilman).

But it appears that roster reshuffling is at an end.

“We think that our roster is set as it stands right now,” Kelly said Monday morning at Lost Dunes Golf Club, adding that the Irish won’t take another graduate transfer.

Smith and Gilman will be part of those summer workouts, although it’s not clear how they’ll fit into the fall roster.

For Smith, making the move from Arizona State following basically a two-year comeback from knee surgery, the hope for Notre Dame is that his speed will boost a roster still looking for the next Will Fuller. Kelly also hopes Smith, paired with Michigan graduate transfer Freddy Canteen, can offer a leadership example to a position that could use a couple.

“Speed. The speed factor was No. 1 (with Smith). And then No.2, the maturity level,” Kelly said. “We wanted to add two more really mature players. We have some really young players. We wanted mature mentors. At times last year, one of the issues last year was maturity, attention to detail, good habits.

“In Freddy and Cam we’ve got two guys that are very mature guys, good role models for some young players. From a skillset standpoint, the speed element, where (Smith) can really get over the top of defenses.”

The biggest question facing Notre Dame’s roster might be whether or not Gilman will be part of the lineup. The University will file an appeal with the NCAA on the safety’s behalf for a waiver of immediate eligibility.

The crux of that argument will be the policy change for academies that makes service after graduation compulsory without exception. In the past, academy athletes with NFL potential could delay service. The change played a part in Gilman’s departure from Navy because he hopes to play beyond college.

“We’re going to appeal to an area that’s never been appealed before,” Kelly said. “We really don’t know how that’s gonna look.”

Kelly said he’s not clear when the NCAA could resolve the Gilman waiver, although he said it’s his understanding that because this case is “unprecedented” that it would have elevated priority for settlement.

The Irish head coach didn’t downplay what immediate eligibility for Gilman could mean either. Kelly said the 6-foot, 190-pound transfer could be part of the two-deep if eligible.

“We think his run-and-hit ability is extraordinary,” Kelly said. “Very smart, football savvy. We think he’s certainly got a chance to get on the field.”

Injury Updates

Kelly said there are no new injuries as summer school starts and the only negative medical report was defensive tackle Elijah Taylor being behind in his recovery from Lisfranc surgery to his foot. Kelly said running back C.J. Holmes (shoulder) and kicker Justin Yoon (lower body) are both on track.

Kelly added that Taylor should be ready to practice when training camp opens, likely on Aug. 1 at Culver Academy.

“In terms of Elijah Taylor, maybe a week or so behind where he needed to be with his foot, only because he had a lot of work to do at the end of the year with academics, maybe slowed up his rehab a little bit,” Kelly said. “He’s gonna get back in time to be able to compete in camp.”

Facility Upgrade Update

There’s no public timeline for Notre Dame’s renovation of the Guglielmino center, but Kelly detailed more about what he’d like to see when it comes to the University’s blueprints.
Spoiler alert: There probably won’t be a putt-putt golf course or waterfall.

“We don’t really need that, to be quite frank,” Kelly said, when asked directly about some of the additions at Clemson and other powerhouse programs. “That’s not what our mission is anyway. Our philosophy is really about community. If I could just find a way to get four more hours of sleep (for our players), I would be happy.”

Kelly does want a new locker room in the Gug with more creature comforts. He also wants a dedicated academic space for the players, who often do academic work in the Gug auditorium. Better training table facilities is also a must considering Notre Dame literally wheels in meals for players from campus dining, then serves them in a converted lobby.

“We need more room and more space for feeding our players,” Kelly said. “We needed dedicated space for academics.

“A new locker room facility that allows them a little bit more space. It’s really a focus on the players and the needs that the players have in that facility.”

Kelly repeated that Notre Dame will build a second indoor field at some point, which should allow more scheduling flexibility with the University’s other sports.

“With the NCAA changing that everything must be mandated with a 6 a.m. start, we’re really pressed for time,” Kelly said. “It’s very difficult for us to get our run in and our lift in, prior before 6. We have to go before 6 to get all that in. We can’t go back in the afternoon, the facility is full, baseball, softball, all the different sports.

“Having a dedicated facility will allow us to lift in the morning and come back in the afternoon and get our run in.”
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After the commitment of Takacs, it got me thinking of how Chip Long will coach and utilize the rich abundance of high quality tight ends he'll have to work with.

Here are a few questions that immediately come to mind:
-Since he enrolled in January, will Brock Wright be ready to play in September?
-Are Durham Smythe and Nic Weishar viable options this year? Or is Kmet and Wright breathing down their necks?
-Is Alize someone that is willing to block or is he our Funchess?
-If he is not a willing blocker, doyou keep him on the field as a jumbo WR and still bring in 2 other tight ends to keep the 2 TE formation on the field that Long has talked about to much? Example, split Alize out wide in the red zone and put Smythe and Wright next to the tackles. That gives you extra beef for a running play and it gives you big bodies to catch the ball in the end zone.

Even though Takacs won't be here until 2018, the tight end group is strong for the 2017 season. Two TE sets talk is exciting because that is the best way to utilize all of that talent to the fullest. I'd love to see a formation of Alize, Kmet, St. Brown, and Claypool/Boykin on the field at the same time.
 
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arrowryan said:
-Since he enrolled in January, will Brock Wright be ready to play in September?
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He was getting decent reviews in Spring. I think whether he gets any meaningful PT or not depends on whether he can eclipse Smythe as a blocker.

arrowryan said:
-Are Durham Smythe and Nic Weishar viable options this year? Or is Kmet and Wright breathing down their necks?
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Smythe is absolutely a viable option this year. Our base package for a majority of Spring included both Smythe and Alize on the field, along with two WR's.

Whether that was because the offense is still vanilla as Long installs things, or if that's because Long wants his base set to feature two TE's that are versatile enough to go no-huddle, and change to a 4-WR look without changing personnel, remains to be seen (though it makes sense, based on the tempo we saw the offense using in the Spring Game. If you want to go warp-speed, while giving yourself the most alignment options and blocking advantages, you go with two TE's).

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-Is Alize someone that is willing to block or is he our Funchess?
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He wasn't inserted into that base package in the Spring until Long and BK were convinced that he was dedicated to improving and being a good in-line blocker. He showed them that he was, so he got his spot as a starter. And with the way Long relies on TE's, I'd imagine that he can be relied upon to be a serviceable in-line blocker if needed, like when Smythe isn't on the field and they want a TE with his hand down.
 
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ELCID said:
Where is the academic area?
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Funny - I actually asked Jeff Scott (their co-offensive coordinator) that question. I met him through a mutual friend and it was a very casual conversation. The guy I was with asked Jeff to get him a tour of that facility and I said "I only want to see the study room". All I got was a smirk and my friend did get that tour.
 
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Apologies folks for a purely questioning post, but I've gotten lost (completely) on the guesses as to whom we are planning on playing at the defensive backfield positions. There are so many athletes scattered around those spots with, unfortunately, so little known production, that I'm at sea.

Could any of you guys care to guess/state who the starters will be and at what spots? Also, would anyone care to state who SHOULD be starters and why?
 
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CB: Watkins
CB: Love
FS: Coleman
SS: Elliot

I think that was the starting lineup in the B&G game.

That sounds about right, except I think Robertson might have an outside shot to win the FS job in Summer camp. Vaughn, Pride and Crawford waiting in the wings at CB isn't too shabby, and Studstill waiting to fill in at either S spot is a wildcard if he gets his act together.
 
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Coleman was ahead of Love on the last depth chart I saw. Watkins the starter on the other side.
 
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IrishLion said:
CB: Watkins
CB: Love
FS: Coleman
SS: Elliot

I think that was the starting lineup in the B&G game.

That sounds about right, except I think Robertson might have an outside shot to win the FS job in Summer camp. Vaughn, Pride and Crawford waiting in the wings at CB isn't too shabby, and Studstill waiting to fill in at either S spot is a wildcard if he gets his act together.
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Yup.

Side note, I'm pretty sure Robertson is going to be a baller.
 
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NDCrusader said:
Crawford. My bad.

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I read the other day that they were going to ease Crawford back into the nickel role and then worry about full-time CB after that. That would mean Love is the *starter*.

It also wouldn't surprise me if Crawford is already slotted to start, and what I read was just "hold your horses" misinformation.

EDIT: It ALSO wouldn't surprise me if Vaughn passed both of them, just because physical prototype.
 
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Luckylucci said:
Yup.

Side note, I'm pretty sure Robertson is going to be a baller.
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Have the same feeling. With him, Swede, Aloha and Allen in the pipeline behind Soph Elliot and Jr Coleman, ND is set at safety. They'd be better off if a few moved on IMO.

...and I'm not sure JOK isn't the best SS candidate if Simon commits and stays at Rover his entire career.
 
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