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We wouldn't be talking about OSU like this at all, really, if Lane Kiffin would have taken his head out of his ass and Run. The. Henry.
We wouldn't be talking about OSU like this at all, really, if Lane Kiffin would have taken his head out of his ass and Run. The. Henry.
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Yeah... maybe so. Wonder Boy may have cost us in that one. But alas... they won and we were left wondering what if.
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They won the national championship with that same team, you know.
Also Bosa was suspended.
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Yeah, but in week 1 of last year, were you saying that they were going to win the title?
I'm not sure the relevancy of your question.
Tommy claimed you can't take much from week 1 games, then uses our week 1 game to suggest we could handle tOSU if they played tomorrow.
Except with tOSU, he stated that this is pretty much the same team. So we could extract a little more from just week 1 regarding their defense. Sure, we won't see them tested until MSU but if this is the same defense that put it on Oregon - why the doubt?
Tommy claimed you can't take much from week 1 games, then uses our week 1 game to suggest we could handle tOSU if they played tomorrow.
Except with tOSU, he stated that this is pretty much the same team. So we could extract a little more from just week 1 regarding their defense. Sure, we won't see them tested until MSU but if this is the same defense that put it on Oregon - why the doubt?
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First of all, he never said we could "handle" OSU. He just said that they were not unbeatable and that you cannot take too much away from the first week. He said they aren't that much different than the team they were last year, which you in turn said won a title, which I turn reminded you that no one thought they were a title team in the first week (which goes to Tommy's original comment that they were a) not unbeatable and b) can't take too much away from the 1st week).
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To be fair, Texas's offense is about as close as you can get to FCS right now.
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It would crack me up if Texas rebounded and dropped 40 this week. lol
My hype level would soar to unrealized potential.
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who you being fair to?
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The other 9 teams I guess. It certainly wasn't fair to us or Texas.
No, not FCS. Texas is probably in the 50 - 60 range of Div 1A teams which is about the midpoint of FBS teams.
Texas has young players at some key positions but they are Div 1A caliber players. Texas played a Top 10 team Saturday with what, 19 returning starters, not the 201st ranked Alcorn State.
Texas would have beaten the entire first week SEC schedule with the exception of Wisconsin, and they could play with them.
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I'd be shocked if that's a 50-60 range offense at the end of the year. They have no qb, a bad o-line, no skill players. Maybe they'll get bailed out and get a stats bump just cause they play in the Big 12, but it's just not a good offense at all.
Perhaps, but currently ESPN's Power Poll has them at #36 between Wisconsin and Boise.
ESPN projects Texas to win 5.5 games. They have Wis at 8.3 wins and Boise at 10.6. Check the Remaining SOS in that ranking. Texas has the 22nd toughest schedule, while Wisconsin's is 67th, and Boise's is an anemic 113th of the 128 teams in the FBS.
ESPN's FPI has Wis at 9.5, Texas at 9.3, and Boise at 8.6.
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After Texas plays Rice this week, they have Cal, OK State, TCU, and Oklahoma....ouch.
If they don't right the ship immediately, Charlie Strong may be sacked before his second season is even finished.
Swoopes' days have to be numbered.
If they don't right the ship immediately, Charlie Strong may be sacked before his second season is even finished.
Swoopes' days have to be numbered.
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You have no way to know that... We'll see soon enough.
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BTW, TTT is a Bama fan so when he said "we" he mean Bama not ND.
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Texas had 7 returning starters from Defense last year that finished 25th in overall defense in 2014.
Not one analyst had the Irish beating the 'Texas Defense' by more than 10-14 points.
I don't want to beat up on your statement but, really need to give the entire Irish team/coaches credit at some point. This game was one of the first I have watched in some time that play selection and execution of plays were done well. A few hiccups here and there but expected in the first game of the year against a formidable opponent.
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Why did our projected win loss in the ESPN FPI go from 10-2 to 9.9-2.1 in the last few hours? Did Mark May clock in, or what?
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FPI is statistical, not opinion-based. My best guess would be that some advanced metrics/statistics/calculations were just finalized/uploaded into the model for Week 1 games.
After reading the compelling arguments in this thread the ESPN algorithm was tweaked to classify Texas as FCS.
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Funny as hell, BGIF! But a little sad because of the truth behind it!
I watched some of tOSU game, I could only stomach so much of it at a time, kind of like getting a whiff of rotten meat in a closed room, but I had some real clarity in my observations.
Spoiler alert : Anti Tressel & Meyer Rant :
When I was a kid, we rooted for ND first, then OSU : It is just the way it was for a large percentage of Irish Catholic Toledoans. Gradually both fan bases changed and they separated to distinct separate groups. I thought my ambivalence to the OSU arrogance and general fandom's boorish behavior was my reason for not caring for the Buckeyes anymore. It is not.
First with Tressel (and I thought highly of his old man) and now Meyer; as well everyone knows the narcissistic path of Gee. And particularly most recently with Urban. When he said "the other one" when referring to JT Bartlett, I could have kicked his ass, for no other reason than the general principle of it! It turned into one of those incredulous uncomfortable game announcer chuckles, prompted with behavior contradicting words. Plainly Meyer had been painting both of his potential starting quarterbacks in flowery and heroic terms, and the entire OSU press machine had been playing up JT as the first sophomore captain in the 100 year history of OSU football, (newbies!)
Even the sportscasters reacted gingerly (uncomfortably) to that reference! To me Urban Meyer has mastered every facet of the descriptors "scumbag," "(human)slug," reprobate, and moronic sociopathic miscreant! It is really clear that long after Urban has left the comfort of a recruit's living room and long after signing day, that recruit is nothing but a piece of meat in a muscle machine that Urban constructs to win at all cost.
Which is the real sadness of the situation. An old buddy and I were just chatting, and he said, "that holier-than-thou motherfvcker Meyer, still kneels and takes communion every day, and lies, cheats, steals, and uses everyone and everything in his path with the best of them! How many years is it going to take him to turn Columbus into the rubble Gainesville became before they run him out of town on a rail, too?"
I guess that is the final point for me, I cannot associate myself with a fan base with as many blind dumb shiits as the Buckeyes apparently have. As bad as ND fans were when they expected Weis to finally win, and Clausen to Tate to make up for countless coaching ineptitudes, it was at least harmless self delusion. Meyer is such a bad person in my opinion, that there is no high ground in rooting for a team led by a sociopathic ass-wipe like who he has shown himself to be.
Rant over, on to looking at the Buckeyes performance.
Okay, the Buckeyes won the National Championship last year. They are good. Formidable. But are they are fundamentally different than the Irish in one respect? So far it seems like the Irish are team first, workmen like in attitude, with an incredible attention to detail. Did anyone see much of that from the Buckeyes against VA Tech? I didn't.
Earlier someone commented, and it was close to what I saw. VA Tech was winning until OSU put their quarterback out of the game and onto the surgical waiting list. The game was certainly in doubt until that point. And then it was over. And I know that four Ohio starters were "suspended for a game."
I agree that they have all the talent that they need to repeat. But as the year goes on, I believe they will be their own worst enemy; time will tell!
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Yea and those same rankings have Penn St. ranked 43, or 7 spots higher than Temple. So I think they might be a little flawed.
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They'll improve after a few weeks. They're still heavily influenced by offseason metrics like recruiting rankings, coaching experience, returning starters, etc.
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Been waiting to post this for a few days -here ya go. Texas sucks because Notre Dame blasted them-truth-Notre Dame is going to put a few coordinators (both sides of the ball) jobs in jeopardy this year. Also there were a few big name schools highly ranked that my eye told me Notre Dame can beat. Sec already beating their chest about being the best conference playing the best football etc-truth- you should be and I'll continue to pull for the college game played by the likes of Notre Dame. If I want to watch pro football I'll watch it on Sunday. Lastly Notre Dame started this way last year -truth- this football team is loaded and has something to prove. Very dangerous combination.